Now I understand why at each windows 11 update, they introduce more bugs than ever
Is this why they haven’t said why they one folder needs to be there. They actually don’t know.
Work for a big software company. With all the offshoring of devs, I expect most of our code is now AI. And it shows.
This is my own experience but the past few years Windows has been extremely dependable for me and then in the last few months the updates they’ve have been terrible. I’ve seen more blue screens recently than I have in a lot of years.
All this to say that if it is 30% AI code being used then it’s very telling!
Windows was always garbage to be honest, windows 7 was the best release in my opinion. You are correct though it is way worse these past months. By the way does your mouse lag when the update notification comes up?
i had such a bad experience with 7, it was horribly unstable on a computer that had handled vista just fine. i switched to 8 as soon as i could and was better off for it.
Government spyware finally has a challenger for the title of “primary reason that most Microsoft software runs like hot garbage”.
So the CEO is trying to tell investors that they are saving money by not paying employees. But to me it sounds more like: we are letting our sub-par products continue to enshitify, and any other company using AI to program will be equal competition.
I think he’s trying to say that their AI writes code good enough for Microsoft. Which is a message to other business leaders that your company too can benefit from copilot, just hand over your credit card!
Microsoft has absolutely gotten worse in the consumer space, but that isn’t really their business these days.
They’re worse in the business space too. Teams is crashing on me daily.
Good point
What products do they have that are enshittifying?
Here is the definition: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
Have you not noticed that the Windows search has become a meme for being really useful in windows seven and useless in newer versions because it started
- Searching the web and asking an ai for answers without you wanting that
- In consequence syphoning out each and every search promt
- Displaying fucking ads in the fucking search results
And that’s just one example that’s obvious enough to become a meme
BTW: any form of making a Microsoft product worse for profit of Microsoft is enshittification since they have both endusers and sellers of products that only work on windows/in the Microsoft ecosystem locked in with significant costs tied to leaving.
Here’s the list of what they are enshittifying: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_software
Ok so you don’t know the definition, moving on
Imagine simping for a trillion dollar company. Lol
Hmm seems like he do
You look like a very fun person to spend time with (/s)
Windows 11 was much much shittier, idk about the rest of their products, I haven’t used them.
And I switched over to steamOS, so I won’t be using any of their products again.
You didn’t read the definition, moving on
Man, chill. Break the word down.
En - Into / Become Shit - Da poo poo Fication - The process of becoming
What products do they have that aren’t?
You didn’t read the definition, so im moving on.
this makes way more sense than hundreds of shitty devs.
Even their AI crashes all the time, its brutal.
this is why I get so much business as a IT consultant lol
We know Microsoft.
Hardly possible not to noticce…
“Written by software” does not inherently mean AI.
Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said that 20% to 30% of code inside the company’s repositories was “written by software” — meaning AI.
Nadella gave the figure after Zuckerberg asked roughly how much of Microsoft’s code is AI generated today.
I highlighted part of the article for you.
Code generators being a prime and ancient example
I vaguely remember talk about companies like Google having software that fixes/writes code and that was ages before LLMs.
Everybody saying this is why their products are shit are really confusing me. It’s not like Microsoft just started being terrible. They’ve been terrible for a real long time. Way before AI was a thing. This is just a symptom of Microsoft’s awfulness not a reason for it.
Ok, it’s like this.
Ms used to release shitty stuff. And they’ll continue to release shitty stuff except now it’ll be 30% more shitty.There were alpha versions of windows 8 with less glaring/annoying bugs than windows 11, though
My windows 11 gaming machine has done all manner of fucky stuff, including permanently losing desktop icons seemingly at random and just whole ass refusing to open the file explorer for six months.
You can install Dolphin file manager on Windows. File Explorer has sucked at least since Windows 11 was released.
I’m just saying, it’s the most basic program there is for a user-friendly OS, how do you launch to market with a fucked up file explorer? And nah, we’re going to Linux once they start pushing windows 12.
Why wait?
I’m waiting to make a pc upgrade and buy new storage, then I’m switching.
Mostly because when I switched my personal machine, there were a few small, weird issues with everything from not being able to do multiplayer on indie games to the grass, and only the grass as opposed to everything green, being blue in Baldur’s Gate 3. Working through those problems didn’t bother me, I’ve got the gumption and patience for it, the rest of my family does not. I’m giving the game industry a bit more time to smooth things out before I move the family gaming machine over.
Windows 11 is so terrible so far that if I’ll need to use Windows 10 for dev reasons, I’ll either pirate the extended support patches, or use a shitbox (obsolete PC for optimization purposes) disconnected from the internet. I do fear that I might have to hack a GUI onto LDB or GDB, because I got too used to RemedyBG (I’m already using Kate).
The AI is not the reason their software is bad, but their software is bad for the same reason they’re claiming to use AI to write it.
Boy am I glad not having to touch their software.
Well that explains a lot
Year of the Linux desktop
(Amusing sidenote: my autocomplete’s first suggestion after ‘Linux’ was ‘propaganda’.)
That’s why their products are so crappy!
No way, they get their results through honest effort. Anyone can make crappy AI products now, but Microsoft have been doing crappy products the hard way for decades. Don’t downplay their hard work !
What? There products have long been shit ever before AI was even a thing.
Anyone remember windows ME? I sure as fuck do.
And 100% of their product names are generated by AI. No human would be stupid enough to change something’s name for zero reason.
No human would be stupid enough to change something’s name for zero reason.
Well, unless you’re a product manager at Google apparently… Though with them you’re lucky if its just a change of name rather than it becoming an entirely “new” thing, or just getting outright axed…
coughs
Windows hate train looks fun, but as someone who works in the industry, most of that code is probably just unit tests and boilerplate stuff.
Copilot is decent at quickly writing huge amounts of mostly correct, tedious unit test code, depending on your language/framework. And since Microsoft works with languages like C# and .NET for their native apps, and likely backend too, there is quite a bit of verbosity that Copilot can take care of. Also, documentation might count as well.
No real code is AI-generated. He’s just saying shit like this to keep idiot investors happy.
I’d guess it’s mostly the AI autocomplete stuff. I.e. you keep on typing until the AI guesses it right then press tab to save keystrokes. LLMs are really bad at making test cases in my experience; they, ironically, can’t do the simple but nuanced computations needed to figure out what the output should be given the inputs, or to recognize and test the edge cases.
Thanks for the context
Isn’t that the problem tho. He’s the CEO of Microsoft which is supposed to be a bight end technology firm saying bullshit
Operations are one thing, but investors are another. The latter don’t know the sector, but they want profits.
So you have to convince them not to interfere with your activities, because they can make things worse.
I appreciate this explanation. But it doesn’t make it right, does it?
