• yarr@feddit.nl
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    I’m tired of just seeing random Trump ideas without any kind of deeper thought or plan behind it. Alcatraz hasn’t housed a prisoner for a long time. Needless to say, it’d cost a lot of money to get it back up in action. Is this money worth spending? How much is it? What’s wrong with our other supermax prisons in the USA?

    It’s embarrassing this guy can just throw out these off the cuff ideas and STILL finds fans in the USA.

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    Alcatraz was originally closed because it was extraordinarily expensive to run and it wasn’t very useful given the alternatives.

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    Someone go jingle your keys in front of the orange dunce…

    He must have saw something on arcatraz lately and his stupid addled brain got stuck on it. Good god I hate this timeline.

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        11 hours ago

        I bet he thinks of himself when the “winners go home and fuck the prom queen” line comes up.

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    Alcatraz closed as a federal prison in 1963 after just 29 years of operation because it was too expensive to continue, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The per-capita cost of housing prisoners there was substantially higher than other correctional facilities. In addition, corrosion from the salt air of San Francisco Bay means the facility requires additional maintenance to sustain that prisons in other locations don’t.

    I thought we were trying to save money

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    Things that won’t happen.

    The salt from the ocean has corroded the bars, a good kick likely would open the windows. To secure the place would take years of rework or just outright tear down and rebuild.

    The place hasn’t had proper upkeep since the late 1960s and honestly very likely before then too. It wouldn’t serve to secure anyone that various places out in the Midwestern desert regions wouldn’t do multiple times better.

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      Alcatraz is a derelict. Getting it up to a functioning prison standard would almost assuredly take knocking it down with heavy equipment and starting over from zero. You could probably, unironically, finish high speed rail for the same time and financial cost, but then you couldn’t try to impress people by showing everyone that you’re the world’s only banana republic dictator with no drip.

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      You think they won’t give out a contract worth tens of millions to update a math balled prison to someone they know?

      This is America.

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        Pretty sure that’s the entire point of this whole thing. Give an insanely overbid contract to someone who will then launder back a sizable portion of it in campaign donations or crypto meme coin purchases. Continue grift until the money runs out.

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      The strength of the bars was never Alcatraz’s selling point. It’s the location.

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        This is still about the location, but not in the way you’d expect. It’s near Hollywood so movies were made about it and it’s the next most notorious American prison after Guantanamo that Trump has heard of. I guarantee this is his Plan B after Guantanamo didn’t work out.

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    “They’re trying to build a prison!”

    “For you and me to live in!”

    “They’re trying to build a prison!”

    “FOR YOU AND ME!”

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    Everyone needs to stop reporting on anything he just says. Instead, the media should exclusively focus on what he actually does. Did he issue any executive order about it? Did he instruct congress to do anything anything about it? No? Then I don’t give a shit, and neither should anyone else.

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        But 95% of the time he doesn’t take any action on what he says.
        Then he actually does take action on things he never said anything about.

        If you fight back against everything he says, you’ll exhaust yourself on so many things that don’t matter; You’ll completely miss many things that do. Which is in fact the strategy.

        For example his personal crypto tokens. He never said anything about making his own tokens to launder bribes through. Then suddenly surprised everyone announcing a new company and tokens. If anyone in the world buys $25M worth, they’ll get a private sit down dinner to discuss whatever they want. That blatant clear corruption is important. And bullshit this is just a distraction.

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            Then I think we have different ideas of what “Fight Back” means, and are talking past each other.

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    This is like something an uninformed kid would say. “Ooh! A scary-sounding prison on an island! Yeah, let’s fix that up and use it for real!