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Can you imagine the roasting this poor kid gets at school because of his insane mom?
This was literally the first thing I thought when I read the headline.
Nelson (from Simpsons): “Ha ha!”
I get the mom’s point that she is worried for his safet but like, that’s way too extreme, lol. Teens are eventually gonna be curious about it and learn about sex. There’s nothing wrong with fancying the opposite gender and masturbation as long as the teen doesn’t let the whole thing control his mind thus affecting his daily life if that makes any sense.
Note that under the Kansas bill, it appears that depictions of homosexuality qualify as also needing to be locked behind an age gate. Like, not “homosexual sex”, but homosexuality.
Don’t look, kids! According to Kansas lawmakers, this is pornography.
Images and text depicting gay affection could be swept up by age-verification bill
A same-sex couple exchanges rings at a marriage ceremony. You might think it’s a sweet moment. But should we be protecting children from seeing it? (Getty Images)
Take a good look at the photo just above these words. You should see two men exchanging rings at a same-sex marriage ceremony.
You’re also seeing, according to the Kansas Legislature, the kind of pornographic content that should be walled off from those under age 18 with age-verification software. That was the consequence — intended or not — of passing Senate Bill 394. All 40 state senators voted for the legislation, including 11 Democrats. In the House, nine Democrats joined Republicans to pass the bill, 92-31.
Max Kautsch, a Lawrence media lawyer, outlined some of the problems.
“The online age-verification bill expressly incorporates the definition of ‘harmful to minors’ that already exists in Kansas statutes, a phrase defined to mean ‘any description, exhibition, presentation or representation, in whatever form, of … acts of … homosexuality,’ ” he told me. “The term ‘homosexuality’ is undefined in the law, but it could include a wide swath of conduct between two persons of the same sex, including kissing, hand-holding, and other activities that would be considered ‘public displays of affection.’ ”
A couple of gentlemen exchanging rings, as shown above, would certainly qualify.
I encourage everyone to study the actual bill. From my perspective, it not only invokes a double standard against the brave Kansas LGBGTQ+ community but actively seeks to chill free expression. The proposed law applies to “any commercial entity” that shares content online, which means it could sweep up individuals trying to make money from a travel blog or small businesses that take wedding photos of same-sex couples. (As a nonprofit, Kansas Reflector appears exempt, which comes as a relief given my columns.)
Get this smut off my Lemmy page.
I think that this is okay, because this lemmy instance isn’t a commercial operation.
I guess that places like PinkNews and similar commercial media outlets might be open to lawsuits, though.
So parental responsibility now consists of suing for perceived damages of… ???
jacking off?
fuck’s sake. you don’t think they’ll pass a law against THAT do you?
A settlement of $100 for the extra laundry detergent over the next few years…
The first two use a lot of cancer advertising so im hoping they are getting done in by their own insistance on annoyance.
This is a test case. There are some deep Christofascist pockets behind her.
Specifically, the pockets come from the NCOSE (National Center on Sexual Exploitation), who’s purpose is to quote, “defend human dignity”.
I kinda feel like defending human dignity is not having your son involved in a lawsuit against porn sites.
Yeah, the teen isn’t enjoying life having to deal with his judgmental helicopter mother. But that’s not the porn sites fault.
Teenage boys like to look at naked women a lot, and will go to great lengths to obtain said material, legal or not, due to the 1 2 punch of raging hormones and not fully developed frontal lobes. News at 11 for the mother of the year over in Kansas that hasn’t been paying attention to what teenage boys are usually like for all of recorded history and beyond.
I can’t imagine what she would do if he happened to be into trans porn or God forbid gay porn. The horror. She would be the laughing stock of the garden club among her equally uptight peers. Would someone please think of all of the adult embarrassments in these times of teenagers finding themselves! /s
She is probably an american christian. You think she even cares? She only wants her son to go to church and save himself for marriage.
hentaicity.com is going to be rough to live down.
Imagine going to school if you were this kid
L(° O °L)
With a mom like this he’s probably homeschooled.
Is this an actual law suit by an actual person or from a Jane doe? If this is an actual person, this mom needs to start parenting their kid instead of making everyone else responsible for her kid.
I replied elsewhere, but this is a manufactured case. The goal is to get it in front of the supreme court and get a blanket ban on all porn. This is one of the top objectives of project 2025
I assume the line of thinking is: 1) white people numbers are decreasing, 2) people are not having children, 3) they use protection or not interested because they can watch porn, 4) ban porn means more teenagers getting pregnant??
it also works the other way around, interestingly:
- future is shit
- no vision
- nobody wants to have kids anymore
- women abstain from dating
- we have a loneliness crisis?!?
That teen needs to drop the mom in an old-age home
The plantiff is unnamed. This is a manufactured case to test getting the supreme court to pass a blanket ban on all porn.
They are from my city, if they are a real person, I’ll make it known.
Make sure it’s the horny old-age home, GMILF Manor
I don’t understand how these kids get caught. They gotta be really slow or something.
I was caught 0 times as a teenager. My mom never found my porn.
My brother was caught a few times. My cousin was caught in the damn car on a family vacation with OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CAR just yanking his noodle under a blanket.
I was so cautious as a kid. I guess because I was caught and thoroughly shamed when I was about 4 years old. Maybe that’s why I never got caught when I was old enough for it to matter. That shame gave me a lifelong lesson.
I had a motion detecting toy dinosaur at the bottom of the stairs. When someone approached the stairs it would go, “raaaaaawr, raaaaaawr” and I’d be sitting at the foot of the bed reading a book by the time someone got upstairs.
If they suspected anything, didn’t matter. I was reading.
When I got high speed internet (as it was called in those days) I threw out the tapes and magazines. I had a separate hard drive I’d plug into my computer juuuuuust in case, and since I was always messing with and tearing into my computer, my mom never found anything. That drive had Linux, my mom was scared of Linux.
Now that I think about it, holy shit they fucked me up haha.
When they caught me as a little guy my mom said, “oh shamy, shamy.” And my dad said, “you keep messing with that thing and it’ll fall off and you’ll turn into a girl.” They spent the whole day giving me that, “oh you shameful creature” look.
Haha, man. Wow.
Yeah, maybe my people just messed me up.
Hahahaha, maybe they were onto something (this is a joke) – I consumed way too much porn at way too young an age and I did turn into a girl! Dick never fell off though sadly
Yeah, maybe my people just messed me up.
I’m pretty sure we’re now in a situation where most of our society’s contention is driven by childhood-induced shame over sexuality in some form or another.
And there’s not shit we can do about it because every time someone tries to make a campaign to encourage better sex-education, or even scarier, sex positivity among children, those people or groups get attacked for being pedos and predators.
This is going to be a social dividing line that gets sharper as time goes. There will be people who have a shred of intellectual capacity and haven’t been hollowed out be capitalism, who raise their kids to be free from shame and shackles of toxic social norms and let them just live and discover on their own what sexuality means to them.
And the orcs, who want literal dark-ages levels of shame, hate and fear and of course power-imbalances as deeply rooted foundations to anything and everything related to sex, and they will only want children associated with sex when it involves controlling them or worse.
As a parent, I didn’t want to mess my kids up and make them feel shame about natural things. I don’t know what the right way is, but I have tried to avoid that.
I have enough kids that I know some don’t do it early, some do.
My approach has been, “hey, that’s a private thing and no one here wants to be a part of it. Go to your room and shut your door.”
I have no idea if that’s right, and because of my own issues it doesn’t feel right, but that’s been my approach. I try to think about it logically and reasonably despite having to fight the feelings. My instinct was to say, “HEY! CUT IT OUT, THAT’S NASTY!!” All that did for me was give me an association with “nasty” and those feelings and all I had was my mind, and oh boy I wish I could erase the memory of the things I thought about as a kid.
My daughter is 16, and she’s overly open with me to a level that makes me uncomfortable because she isn’t ashamed of herself.
I also know that she will be healthy when she’s active because she feels comfortable talking to me.
She broke up with a girlfriend for pressuring her, and she told her boyfriend that she understands why he wants to do that and why he thinks about it, but she isn’t ready and if he can’t handle that he can go find a girlfriend who is on his level about it.
With my parents, you did not discuss such things. It was totally forbidden. As a result I had unprotected sex with multiple partners by the time I was 18 and I started when I was 13, started fooling around at about 9. I had some real weirdo adults in my life and I never talked to my parents about it because the thought of them knowing something so shameful about me was too heavy.
I had my first child at 16 years old. I do not believe that would have happened if I had access to education and I could have talked to my parents without feeling shame.
It feels like I’m going against my very nature when my daughter talks to me about things, but I grit my teeth and bare it, and she’s in a much safer and healthier place than I was at her age. She laughs and me because I blush and can barely look at her when she brings it up.
Maybe I’m doing one thing right in a sea of things I’m definitely getting wrong haha.
I believe we should feel shame about some things and that’s why we have to contend with it in the first place. We shouldn’t be ashamed of natural things though.
We’re here because of a long line of creatures and people banging. I don’t know why we freak out about it so bad.
Let me tell you one thing: You’re doing alright.
Having your kids feel safe enough to be open like that and yourself sticking to listening and being there is probably the best anyone can hope for.
I don’t understand how these kids get caught. They gotta be really slow or something.
I was caught 0 times as a teenager. My mom never found my porn.
Modern operating systems are different than Windows 98. You think that you’re sneeky and that nobody will find your porn folder and then your mom gets a “Popular files in your user group” mailing from “OneDrive Engagement” or a “Your browsing year wrap-up” by Microsoft Edge or a retargetting ad on the whole network because you looked at the Riley Reid fleshlight. Modern surveillance capitalism is really hard to escape.
Damn, man. That really sucks.
That’s really depressing.
I always figured we’d go down this road, and in a bout of psychosis when I was younger I even lost my head over it and we really are there now.
A 30 year old friend of mine didn’t know about incognito mode. A certain subreddit popped up, on his projector screen, as a recommendation when we were searching for a sports stream to watch. I don’t think anyone else noticed or would really know what the sub was, but I later casually mentioned this really cool browser feature to use in case you need to search something weird.
I learned one shouldn’t assume that everyone is familiar with all the digital tricks to hide what they’d prefer others not see.
“you keep messing with that thing and it’ll fall off and you’ll turn into a girl”
On one hand, fucking horrible thing to say on a child
On the other… probably would not have the effect they would intend on a certin chunk of the population lmao
“So anyway, that was the beginning of my transition journey and also how I became an absolute master of giving HJs.”
how I became an absolute master of giving HJs
It’s too bad that we can’t have positive reinforcement for (beginning the introduction to) most sex acts. I like giving head because I love seeing my partner’s eyes roll backwards. It seems like there’s so much taboo that gets us excited and eager to try something, when we should all just be trialing to see what everyone likes.
That shame gave me a lifelong lesson.
A lot of people don’t feel shame…
I would wager that a lot more do.
My mother got drunk one night and sat me on her bed and described in detail when she got raped as a teenager, and the resulting abortion and the details of how that went. I was eleven.
Of course, being a male I can’t go around talking about the lasting effects of many such incidents that happened to me, and I’m not really expected to even connect those things to any feelings about sexual shame. So instead what it does, and what it does to many men who had any kind of sexual trauma, is we just block out the incidents and internalize the feelings and associations inward and it just wrecks our self-esteem, our standards for ourselves and our perceptions of attractiveness in ourselves.
A lot of guys process this in different ways, and trauma like this can take many forms. But it’s often expressed as later over-compensation and bravado and an image of being “in control” sexually and performative masculinity and hyper-objectifying notions of sexuality, or for more people I suspect, just an internal, festering self-esteem that doesn’t want them to be happy or feel good about themselves. For every loud, angry incel, I suspect there are thousands of men who have the same background or traumas and they just sit quietly on it forever and it robs them of joy.
That’s some dangerous assumptions you’re making here… Just because there’s a vocal minority that seems to fit the painting you’ve pictured doesn’t mean that it’s valid. It could easily be argued the complete opposite that those who had shame about the incident would hold onto it, internalize it… and never talk about it again. It can easily go both ways here.
But my statement was more of an answer to the implicit question of “why did I get the lifelong lesson when the others around me clearly didn’t?”… That answer could be because a lot of people just don’t feel shame. Doesn’t have to be “they gotta be really slow or something”. They didn’t get the lesson… they felt no shame.
Shame should be abolished after all. It is irrational. If there is a good reason for/against something, we should use that reason instead, and create a culture of habits around it.
Shame should be abolished after all.
Shame is an emotion. You can’t abolish an emotion. And shame is an emotion that a lot of people use to regulate themselves. This is a silly statement on it’s face. All emotions are irrational. Are you advocating for banning emotions?
There is a good reason that old men shouldn’t touch young women. Shame is one emotion that likely regulates many of those men from never doing it. Such that they would feel shame should they do such an action.
If you can’t agree on that, then I’m failing to understand your point or we simply agree to disagree.
In my experience, shame is not a natural emotion at all.
Rather, i’ve observed shame exclusively stems from somebody saying “shame on you, you shouldn’t do that”. Thus i infer that shame is a social construct, similar to gender.
Then agree to disagree. I can reflect on a number of points in my life where I’ve decided that I did the wrong thing. I hold shame for those actions and use that to hold myself to better standards now. Guilt and regret is part of shame.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shame
1a: a painful emotion caused by consciousness of guilt, shortcoming, or impropriety
Even in your context of bringing shame to people, or attempting to impart guilt and disgrace… That’s an important metric to build the exact culture of habits that you’re advocating for. Most people don’t care if they litter in the park. It’s only after you guilt them into it that they’ll do it.
But no point in going any further into this conversation. It’s clear your mind is made. Have a good weekend.
Edit: clarification.
You had enough motivation and technical knowledge, that’s why. Most people don’t even bother having separate storage with dual booting.
I was caught 0 times as a teenager. My mom never found my porn.
oh she knew. we all know.
Knowing is one thing, being caught cock in hand is another. :p
Did you place the toy downstairs before wanking or was it always there?
It was always there. ;)
I had an Irish Catholic nun, with the headdress and nun robes on and everything, tell my class we’d go blind and grow hair on our hands. She was making scarry eyes and jazz hands while she said it. It was a sex ed course and her #1 message to all of us jr high boys was wearing deodorant and scrub your ass in the shower. In retrospect, I think she said that in such a cartoonish manner because she knew it was ridiculous, and really she just didn’t want to gag from the stench after phys ed.
That same nun told me her favorite band was "those good Irish boys with the rap music, I just wish they’d pick a more respectful name than ‘beasty boys’ "
We were all sneaking looks at each other’s hands for at least a month after that though.
Kids need an outlet or they look for the real thing, not in a good way. Let them have their sites. Like anything in moderation though or only net porn will get you off later in life.
teens aren’t aware or private browsing?
Moms suck!
If she only sucked, we could have avoided this
Only if you pay them
If they like you, sometimes they do it for free
