I feel like Jokic, Giannas, and Luka have destroyed stats for me. Getting 36/16/9 is something I don’t even bat and eye at, I just go oh, they had a good game. NOT EVEN A GREAT GAME. Just a good game lmao. I remember a time that wasn’t too long ago, I’m talking like 2015 where 25/6/6 was a pretty insane stat that people were like damn. I really feel like stats stopped becoming so shocking when Harden and Russ were just getting 30 point triple doubles every night and Russ legit averaged a triple double for like 3 seasons or whatever. Before that nobody had averaged a triple double since Oscar Robertson in 1961!
Does anyone else feel this way? I don’t even know what is good anymore honestly or when I should be impressed.
Yeah luka made his classic bad game stat be 35/6/8
NBA isn’t an attractive game to me anymore - way too many ill-advised “heat-checks” and taking turns on offense. I’d much rather watch Euro-ball at this point.
stop watching “superteams”
Steph Curry
Somehow averaging 3.9 assists and 3.7 turnovers a game isn’t discussed because it’s so normal for him
For the offensive load he carries I don’t think 3.7 TOVs is that egregious. Plus Chris Paul has taken a lot of the playmaking duties off his shoulders hence why his assists are down.
You really do just go around every post hating on steph curry. What did this man do to you?
thats what we have you for…
It needs to be something out of the ordinary for me to care at this point. Someone getting 20 boards still registers. Or throwing up a 50 piece. But yeah the big triple double kind of falls flat.
40 points has fallen pretty flat for me, personally. Even when Lavine put up 50 against the Pistons I was like “oh cool” but it didn’t blow me away. Something like 20 rebounds or 15 assists or 8 blocks is where I get interested.
Yeah I see threads about Cade dropping a monster 26 points and I’m not even impressed anymore
I want to see some quadruple doubles.
Unfortunately the decline of the heavy-duty post game has reduced blocks
Still can’t believe Draymond got that point-less triple double
It’s all relative. There are far more possessions in games now than there were in the 90s or early 00s. More shots, especially with so many 3s going up, drives rebound totals. 3s are also inflating scoring numbers.
There was a time when it was normal to have 10 or so total players in the league averaging over 20ppg. 25 is the new 20.
Ever since peak helio-Harden and MVP Russ, nothing surprises me. There is not a single offensive statistical output that would genuinely shock me besides 60-50-90.
The only other thing that would genuinely blow my mind statistically is someone averaging 3 steals AND 3 blocks a game for a season. 2+2 is already extremely rare and impressive. 3+3 would be goat defender stocks output. Maybe that detroit rookie could do it someday, or possibly even Wemby.
I don’t think players really see their stock numbers increase… Ausar seems to move really well and have great instincts, but next year that’ll be on the scouting report and guys will be more hesitant to take tough shots over him, which will in turn drive his block numbers down a little bit
I think the recipe for a guy to breakout is either being new to the league or having their expectations shifted dramatically (way new scheme or way more minutes)
3+3 would be my favorite player if it’s not a center
Herbert jones looks like he’s going to get it eventually
Andrei kirilenko was pretty close to 3+3
AK-47 was special
He’d be incredible in this era of ball, especially if his game was slightly more adapted to the shooting required by teams these days.
Jokic is truly the Gears of War 2 of the NBA
For me it’s the efficiency. TS has blown up past 2 seasons. averaging 60% TS doesn’t feel special anymore
Embiid is doing it on an insane all-time USG% (36.6 over the last 4 years), along with an insane FTr (.593).
Embiid is obviously very talented and a very efficient scorer, but he’s also getting prime Jordan level touches and foul calls to help him along the way.
Some stats have gotten rarer in return. It’s been like 5 years since the last 5x5, triple doubles with blocks barely happen…
Product of modern NBA giving offense massive advantages over defense. Not even on some boomer shit but it really can’t be understated just how large of an effect the lack of calls on carrying, traveling, and moving screens. And don’t even get me started on how soft defensive foul calls are these days.
The NBA wants to prioritize offense because that’s what casuals like to see but when everyone in the NBA is an offensive beast putting up 25-30+ every game it just all regresses to the mean.
It’s also different offenses - and a different pace.
Yeah average ppg in the 90s was close to 100, but now with offensive advantage and increased three point shooting, teams are blowing through that many points in three quarters
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/most-points-through-3-quarters-in-a-game-by-a-team
and moving screens
Some championships not too long ago were basically based on them.
I think nothing of a player scoring 25. Just sounds like a super average game to me but I bet the average player rarely, if ever, scores 25 in a game
I agree and relate completely.
The past few years Westbrook and to a certain extent Harden/Jokic/Giannis making stats look easy.