The Clippers are now 4-7 since trading for Harden, or 0-1 in his “ready” state.

Memes aside, he was okay this game, but okay isn’t good enough when you’re with a fully healthy Clippers vs a Reggie Jackson-led Nuggets.

Harden isn’t exactly playing terribly as a Clippers, but at this point in his career, it’s hard to justify an offence-first player on a team as offensively stacked as the Clippers when they’re in desperate need of some more off-ball movement.

Harden is looking to secure a max extension, we’ll have to see what kind of contract he can muster as he gets more into game shape as the season progresses.

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      10 months ago

      Jesus

      u/Niceguydan8

      Would anybody even be surprised if maxey is better than harden in 2 years?

      That ones actually embarrassing haha

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      u/Niceguydan8 NBA 1yr

      Would anybody even be surprised if maxey is better than harden in 2 years?

      Probably 99% of anyone with a decent amount of NBA knowledge would be surprised by that

      … Jesus. That one is embarrassingly bad. Love it when they’re smug and stupid in one swoop

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        No, didn’t have a remind me set. Don’t know how you access reddit but I still have the rif app and it’s very simple on here. I literally have 100s of comments saved from memes to reaction gifs to prediction comments lol

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          …you still have rif? bro, how? the official app is so garbage, half the time when I play a video it just starts autoplaying audio from another video on the sub

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      I really like seeing these kinds of threads where there are like 20 comments calling the downvoted person a nephew and in hindsight being completely wrong lol.

      In this case I feel like the take wasn’t even that far off the rails, especially as recent as it was (w/ as little disrespect to Harden as possible, obviously dude’s still the 4th best SG and one of the greatest offensive players of all time)- he was already 32 back then, with a heliocentric game relying heavily on athleticism, and was already notorious for being a pylon on defense and going wild in the offseason. I don’t think I would’ve gone as far as saying Maxey would be better by now, but I was definitely on the side of thinking he’d decline pretty rapidly.

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        Because we’re in the now. It’s hard to evaluate the future.

        I can say in 3 years Lively is going to be the better than Embiid and you would have to call me nephew and I would agree.

        Meanwhile in 3 years, lots of things can happen. Like injury.

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          I don’t think that’s necessarily a nephew take, even absent major injury. 3 years is aggressive, but in five years, sure, when Embiid is 34, there might be a lot of centers better than him.

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          Sure, but people on this sub are also extremely fast to downvote something they don’t agree with.

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              It’s very weird. I’ve taken a lot of care to not comment on things I don’t have much knowledge about (hence most of my comments here being Sixers related), and am constantly baffled at how frequently people make extreme pronouncements about players/teams they don’t follow closely.

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            And across all sports, I think people disregard how quickly players can fall off a cliff from one season to the next. But specifically with basketball, most guard skill sets require speed that very very few 32+ year olds maintain. Happened to Kemba super fast, I think it’s even more apparent with smaller guards since they need the speed to beat rim protectors.

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              even more extreme, look at IT once he hurt his hip. couldn’t even get much more than charity bench spots after the trade to cleveland after being an MVP candidate

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            This is every sub. This is Reddit. When given two options only, what else are you supposed to do? Upvote downvote

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            I try to only downvote when I think someone is being an asshole. Which is also the incorrect reason to downvote but by God it makes me feel better for absolutely no reason.

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          Nah that actually is nephew take; because I don’t see that skill set . It’s like with the Utah kid cebtre : the tools him n lively have immediately were useful but OUTSUDE of growing defensively into a gobert type or in that mold day I can’t see them magically getting all the skills embid has.Msxey was an absurdly good shooter b absurdly athletic , people not on this sub who have an idea how players progress woukd guess he’d be atleast a sub all star lvl player : I mean I did and I’m not a Philly fan or a massive draft nerd even if I read stuff once in a while. Players tend to snow flashes : it’s why projecting Wemby n Chet to mvp centre lvl is easier even if lively is very good now I wouldn’t project that way .

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          Father Time is undefeated, and even 2 years ago Harden was past his physical prime.

          Maxey had nowhere to go but up.

          OP wasn’t even suggesting that Maxey would definitely be better, just that it was entirely possible. And, of course it was.

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        It’s as if nephews who don’t actually watch the players they shitpost about are shortsighted or something

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          No matter how much basketball you watch, there’s no way of knowing the future. This very well could be LeBron’s last season or maybe he plays 5 more. Maybe in 5 years Luka is not a top 10 player and Jalen Green is a runner for MVP.

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      I can’t give you full credit, OP. It seems that you and the other posters who responded were discussing if Maxey can reach Harden’s 2021 level of play, not just simply pass him up.

      Yes, Maxey improved in two years, but not THAT much. Harden’s regression since then plays just as much of a role in the upside switch between the two as any other factor. I mean, by the '01/'02 season, Ray Allen was a better player than Jordan, so it happens.

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        I just thought it would be fun to look up that stats.

        Jordan averaged 23/6/5 with 1.5 steals, 0.5 blocks on 42% FG.

        Ray Allen averaged 22/5/4 with 1.3 steals and 0.3 blocks on 46% FG .

        That’s actually pretty close lol. I expected a really big difference

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          2001 is before my time but you got to look at defense too. Defensive rating goes to jordan (i know, not perfect, but i cant watch 160 games for a reddit comment). Which is insane since hes 40 years old.

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          Why are you using fg%? Ray took lots of threes while Jordan was bricking constantly . Ray was more efficient: Jordan on the wizards had lakers Russ efficiency and was not a positive player : he took as many shots as Chicago Jordan just missed a lot more n less Fta

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      I love your follow up downvoted comment, “in 2 years Harden won’t be there either”

      People don’t realize that Harden was on the decline and you plan for the future, not what they used to be… especially for a player who has no real connection to that city

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      Wish I saved mine where I said I wouldn’t trade Jaylen Brown for Harden a few years back

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      The craziest part of that is that 24 y/o Maxey being better than 35 y/o Harden wasn’t that unbelievable back then. It’s a promising young player vs an aging superstar. It’s like comparing 2025 Lillard vs Jalen Williams or somebody

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      Lmao this sub is full of bozos who can only count playoff wins at best or media awards. I got downvoted all summer saying herro n maxey weren’t close in terms of assets; msxey I’d a better player last year and is better prospect in every way . Not to mention msxey stepped up in the playoffs. Can tell this sub is clueless sometimes but so is most of bball Reddit. I did expect maxey to eventually be this good: the combination of athleticism and absurd , like legit absurd especially considering his athletic tools too, shooting talent made me think maxey is gonna be huge eventually. I would’ve guessed one more year tho to be at this years lvl .

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        it is kinda the classic homer “our kids gonna be a superstar” take but hey, let him celebrate it coming true

        because yeah, that was the constant Maxey/Herro/Ant/someone I’m forgetting comparison era, the consensus wasn’t that he was head and shoulders above his peers

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            Also, it’s quite common in the Heat sub to lament over Maxey, especially after he said his favorite player is Dwyane Wade. As much as I wanted him in Miami, I wish him well in Philly.

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      This was a very bold prediction and as much as I’ve always liked Maxey, I would have disagreed with you quite strongly tbh. So, props.

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      We need a “Where Are They Now?” special about everyone flaming you in the replies

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      What about the one where you said the blazers were contenders last season

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      Lol, Celtics fans have a knack for having a ton of faith in other teams and their players apparently (see also: zombie heat and Orlando magic).

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      u/JayOwenWest u/BluCSGO u/Niceguydan8 and u/T26_00 have some apologies to make.

      if any of you genuinely believed it was a nephew take even prior to the Harden/Simmons trade then you either lack the ability to imagine the future or you were lying to yourself from the start. a young player that has made leaps and bounds every single season he played wasn’t going to be potentially better than an aging star clear as day on the decline come two years? FOH ya clowns

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      It’s wild that saying a 25 year old will be better than an injury prone 35 year old is controversial lol

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        he’s 34 and he was an ironman for the Rockets. this was 2 years ago, it was that season and after where he started getting a bit more injury prone. dude’s easy enough to criticize without exaggerating lol

        edit: also wait maxey is 23. are you from the future?