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The ruling in federal court in Minnesota lands as Immigration and Customs Enforcement faces scrutiny over an internal memo claiming judge-signed warrants aren’t needed to enter homes without consent.
A federal judge in Minnesota ruled last Saturday that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents violated the Fourth Amendment after they forcibly entered a Minnesota man’s home without a judicial warrant.
The conduct of the agents closely mirrors a previously undisclosed ICE directive that claims agents are permitted to enter people’s homes using an administrative warrant, rather than a warrant signed by a judge.
The ruling, issued by US District Court judge Jeffrey Bryan in response to a petition for a writ of habeas corpus on January 17, did not assess the legality of ICE’s internal guidance itself. But it squarely holds that federal agents violated the United States Constitution when they entered a residence without consent and without a judge-signed warrant—the same conditions ICE leadership has privately told officers is sufficient for home arrests, according to a complaint filed by Whistleblower Aid, a nonprofit legal group representing whistleblowers from the public and private sector.
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That’ll stop ‘em.
American in home: “Do you have a warrant?”
Ice: BLAM-BLAM-BLAM-BLAM “Fucking bitch”
They should have just complied.
“He had several sharp implements in his kitchen drawers, clearly he was planning a mass stabbing event.”
“There was evidence of salt on his front steps. He clearly is in support of getting rid of ICE. We had to defend ourselves.”
I see, based on the comments, that the bots are pushing the
“It is hopeless, nothing can stop them, the law doesn’t matter, comply in advance, and <‘go do violence dogwhistles’>” messaging:
And who cares about the rest as it’s irrelevant. Ice will do what it wants and doesn’t give a shit about judges or their rulings, and judges won’t enforce their tulings.
Great! Now let’s see someone enforce it…
As if theyre gonna follow that ruling
Anybody who still thinks these judicial rulings from lower courts mean anything at all haven’t been paying attention at all for the last year.
Ah yes, the court rulings don’t matter. That why the National Guard is still deployed in CA, because the administration ignored the judge, right? Kilmar Abrego Garcia is still in El Salvadore and not in the US, right?
We should also ignore then hundreds of cases where the Trump administration has lost: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/projects-series/trials-of-the-trump-administration/tracking-trump-administration-litigation …right?
Ignoring reality to push doomerism, pretty on-brand for idiots and bots.
They literally just killed someone again today… it’s not doomerism to see that this administration ignores the law…the fuck have you been.
Murdered. Shot in the back.
It looked like those liveleaks you see of roadside executions in the Congo or by cartels or something. I would’ve expected every American standing at their doorstep with a firearm at this point, what with all the bluster they spout. Boy was I wrong.
%100 correct.
They?
The ICE officers who killed a man today are not the same people as the US Justice Department lawyers involved in the lawsuits mentioned in the OP.
Two things can be true at once.
They, the ICE officers, killed a man today because they’re untrained white supremacists who are given license to do violence under the color of law.
They, the US Department of Justice, have been court ordered to do things like end the National Guard Deployment and return Garcia to the US and they have complied.
They… being the DOJ were also ordered to release the Epstein files…and they… aren’t.
Stop acting like rule of law is being followed here. It’s not, strongly worded judgements aren’t stopping the fascist.
Oh, I didn’t know that. Please provide the link the court order where a judge ordered this and I will retract my statement.
???
https://time.com/7355932/epstein-files-release-doj-independent-monitor-house-investigation/
Under the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Donald Trump in November, the DOJ was required to release all the Epstein files by Dec. 19.
The fuck are you talking about. Congress passed this and the turnip signed it…and the DOJ has said naa fuck you.
That is a law, not a court order. Laws are written by Legislative branch and court orders are written by the Judicial branch.
The law defines a date when the documents should be released but also, conveniently, did not include any penalties or enforcement mechanisms. They are in violation of the law, a law that was written with no penalty for violation.
There has not been a court case about enforcing this law, if there was then a court order would be written and, then, if they decided to ignore it then you would have a point.
A law and a court order are documents from two completely different branches of government.
Stop playing around. They said the DoJ was ordered to release the Epstein Files. They didn’t say if it was a bill or a court order, but you are splitting hairs. His point was that the rule of law isn’t being followed, and you want to parse the irrelevant details.
Bro judges have no power anymore. None of their orders have been enforced by legal officers. They just hand out verbal warnings. They have literally 0 power.
No power?
If the judges have no power then why is Abrego Garcia not in CECOT? Why are there not National Guard soldiers in California?
That’s only the high profile cases, the cases regarding funding and people’s firings being overturned don’t make the news.
Here’s all of the court cases involving the Trump administration: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/projects-series/trials-of-the-trump-administration/tracking-trump-administration-litigation as you can see the vast majority of them are Trump losing and then losing on Appeal.
If they can ignore it so can we
You have my lifetime admiration for this. Could not put it into better words. Great minds think alike. Keep being awesome Faux!!
Also, is Faux a Bomb Rush Cyberfunk reference?
Also, is Faux a Bomb Rush Cyberfunk reference?
Nah, I literally just randomed some dictionary words together until something looked acceptable.
Though, looking at the game I’m getting Jet Set Radio Future vibes from it (cellshading is a great art style imo)
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Also the dev team released a teaser trailer for the sequel that is in development. Team Reptile on Youtube. Absolute mad lads did a spiritual successor and now they are doing it again.
Their prior games got same style too
It is downloading to the Steam Deck as we speak.
Good luck on your adventure!! You will enjoy BRC and way more so the modding scene. PLUS the modding scene is multiplayer supported with up to 32-64 players at once. Play as Sonic/Mario/JSRF characters/etc/make your own character model. So much to do in it!!!
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Confidently saying this is what will bring us Ready Player One minus all the negatives
Never supppor more violence. This bots are infiltrated so the can have martial law. Violence is never the solution
Bondi was just forced by a judge to fire Trump’s hand picked attorney-babe, who was illegally handling cases for which she wasn’t qualified. She should be disbarred, and so should whoever appointed her.
I don’t think most of the senate had passed the bar in the first place
I see it another way: This shit would send waves of protests and anger in so many other countries but over here in the US and Canada we just shrug our shoulders and say “the law will handle this”. It clearly doesn’t, and it takes forever to get anythjng does work to show up, and the whole time it’s [not] happening no one is actually treating it as seriously as they need to.
Minnesota should be removing ICE from the state. You talk about the law like it’s going to save anyone but they’re already there doing illegal things and Minnesota is fully within its right to tell the shove off, so where is that fight? What good are these rules if they can be ignored? What good are they if there are zero real consequences?
Trump has dozens of felonies to his name and then he got to be the goddamn president. That entire exercise was performative so why the fuck should anyone trust anything?
This shit would send waves of protests and anger in so many other countries but over here in the US and Canada we just shrug our shoulders and say “the law will handle this”.
This comment is an insult to the thousands of Minnesotan’s out there in -10 degree weather protesting.
Thb they’re protesting to protect themselves because the ICE clearly doesn’t care whether they kill illegal aliens or citizens.
It’s perfectly understandable to be angry and to want to see something done.
It is not understandable to think that, just because there is anger and frustration that we can ignore the rules, laws and principals of the country that we claim to want to keep.
If someone thinks that people should be shooting ICE officers in the street then they are an agent of chaos, not a supporter of the United States.
This doesn’t change because there are fascists in office. If you don’t want fascists in office then vote people into congress in the midterms that can impeach and remove them because that is how our system works. The people pushing FUD and violence want people to think that this is impossible, that the only choices are that we should just give up, comply in advance or start killing people.
It’s bullshit, it’s a pushed message that is amplified by people who have no context to understand the decisions that they’re promoting.
There is no world where abandoning democracy and our system of government to engage in an orgy of violence is the correct path. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not on our team.
But that’s exactly it, isn’t it? People can, and should, elect better people into power and they shouldn’t exactly resort to violence. That said, the fact that I’m not hearing about ICE vehicles(without occupants) being lit the fuck on fire is kinda sad. And you talk about the law but it’s like I said, Minnesota’s supposed to be fairly decent, apparently, and yet the best they can do is throw a frowny fave at ICE. The law is fully on their side, they don’t need to change any laws to give themselves permission to start arresting ICE agents for all the illegal stuff they’re doing, they just refuse to do it.
So when is the right time? Or will you, like I’ve already said, just hide away lying to yourself that the laws will actually help despite overwhelming evidence? Where’s the line in the sand?
The first day that they disrupt elections or refuse to leave office after losing an election, that’s the red line where they are clearly and blatantly outside of the bounds of constitution are an enemy of the state illegally occupying an office and can be removed by force.
You can’t believe in democracy and also want to throw it away as anything but an absolute last resort. Give the system every chance to work so you will be completely morally justified in what comes after.
So what was January 6th to you? It’s like someone missed killing someone else and your response to just tell them you got your eyes on them and will totally bring the hammer down after they finally succeed in killing someone.
Maybe it’s just the US’s belief that what they have is normal and cool, but even what is considered normal there is insanity in many other places. The system has had so many chances, and yes I still agree that it does not need to be completely obliterated, but at some point you cannot sit there waiting for the worst outcome before acting. The country has been utterly desensitized to incredibly heinous acts, to the point where they see ICE murdering people in the streets and that’s still not too far for many of them.
For examle: 99% of what Fox News says is straight-up lies, libel, fraud, bullying, incitement to violence, and good ol’ fashioned hate-speech. It’s not throwing out the legal system and trampling on their free-speech to want to see the entire organization persecuted for the damage they’ve caused.
So what was January 6th to you? It’s like someone missed killing someone else and your response to just tell them you got your eyes on them and will totally bring the hammer down after they finally succeed in killing someone.
They failed and we sent thousands of people involved in the conspiracy to prison. Elsewhere the systems of elections and government withstood every attempt the Trump administration to change things. The systems worked.
You’re promoting the idea that those system are going to fail and therefore we should not even try and, instead we should <vague plan, but violence>.
There is no evidence of that outside of the incessant fear mongering on social media that you are taking part in.
The Judicial system has restrained Trump time and time again and the only reason there are not more widespread rulings is because the only entity with standing to sue the administration (the Legislative branch) is being held paralyzed by a very tiny group of people in Congress and those people are up for re-election.
Those people can be voted out and Congress has both the standing to sue and compel the Executive branch via court orders and the ability to impeach and remove Executive or Judicial branch members.
Let’s hear your plan, take me through the steps of how you see this issue solved in a way that is more sure than the system that we’ve used for centuries.
I keep saying trying is something that should still be done, so not really sure where you’re getting that, though yes I agree that I’m not convinced that the US’ bar is high enough.
Honestly, the simple fact is that the US is deeply fucked and got that way partly because the population, in general, supported that Quiet Peace™. Peoplentoo afraid to stir the pot, too afraid to get temporarily uncomfortable for a longterm gain. Decades and decades of centrists and people desperate to appear “moderate” without ever really defining that term. You talk about how strong the system is yet Trump has faced zero consequences for all his delays, his felonies, and impeachments against him have gone nowhere. Look at how hard the system had to work to get even what you claimed, and look at how easily many of the Jan 6 protesters where pardoned, and tell me withba straight face that system is moderately healthy and just needs small changes to set it all right.
I don’t have much to say against the people who didn’t vote for Kamala. The Democrats are largely totally ok with what the GOP is doing and they keep letting them off with nothing more than a frowny face. Harris cared so much about the country that after losing she simply disappeared and wrote a book about it. Her win wouldn’t have put the country back on track, but sending a strong message to the Democrats that being center-right is not an alternative to fascism would have certainly been a start. And we can see with Mamdani that they don’t want to hear that message, but it makes it louder.
The US has been like this the whole time, it’s a core issue not a sudden surface blemish that can whisked away. The only difference is that now even white people are getting to experience what it’s been like for everyone else. The solution is not going to be comfortable, whatever that ultimately means, and you need to let go of that idea so that you’re not blocking change either with your vote or something else.
If Renee Good had actually run over that ICE terrorist, she might have lived.
Self defense.
This is exactly how you lose everything. Trying to upload rules that only you believe in.
Tell us your plan then, Sun Tzu
ICE created some internal rationalization that warrantless behavior was perfectly okay, and they were so sure it was legal that they hid it from everyone, including Congress, the Courts, and the Citizens, a sure sign that EVERYTHING is above board.
Who’s gonna enforce that?
My buddies Smith and Wesson?
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Supreme court reversal of this within a month.
Anybody who still thinks these judicial rulings from lower courts mean anything at all haven’t been paying attention at all for the last year.
Fuck off with the negatively.
You misspelled “functional pattern recognition”
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Looking at how things have been handled over the past year and making an educated guess as to what will follow is not negativity, ita practicality.
While the positive part is that there was a ruling that adhered to the actual law of the US, being prepared for what comes next is the smart move.
Do not expect this to be enforced, expect it to be challenged in the farce that is the current Supreme Court, and prepare accordingly.
Edit:
I’ll just leave this here as an example for the people who think being prepared is being negative.
https://www.ilrc.org/press/supreme-court-overrules-court-order-preventing-racial-profiling
Clearly illegal…and yet.
Edit 2:
https://slrpnk.net/post/33242375
Pretty sure there would be an arrested ICE agent or 5 here if the law mattered.
Keep pretending that it wasn’t time to start fighting two years ago.
The best time to start fighting was 2015. The second best time is now.
It’ll be hilarious when someone turns it around and uses the precedent against the people responsible for this.
Except suddenly there would be contradicting judicial ruling and enforcement of the rule of law, and the dems in charge would “take the high road.”
SCOTUS has not been the rubber stamp that we, and especially MAGA, expected. And as it gets really, really ugly, I doubt some of them will accept it. Thomas and Alito will, they’ll likely feel the rope around their necks, but Barrett was appointed for her abortion vote, which they got. It’s a big leap from protecting unborn babies to rubber stamping the Gestapo. Let’s see if she and Roberts will feel about going down in history as the Justices that destroyed American Democracy.
New Memo Dated Sunday Jan 25th.
We disagree with the judges ruling, and still think our administrative warrants allow us to enter a house. Carry on.
Every state needs to follow suit also to anyone who hasn’t my comment on other posts yet: Keep going we all got this!!! Also keep getting more people active!! The more of us doing the Kore we win and take back our country!! We the people have the power!! Have hope, brainstorm, strategize, and take action together! No lone wolfing!!! We are more effective as a nationwide pack!!
Document, record, and let the lawsuits run wild. All US citizens should be able to open a lawsuit on ICE for the damage they are causing.
There are 335 million people in America. When this is all over, every single person that didn’t support MAGA should be given a tax free gift of $1 million. Registered Republicans need not apply.
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More sanctions, less warnings.
Why is “the most transparent administration in history” sending secret memos that affect every single person in the United States, by the way?
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
Seems to fit perfectly.
Yeah, so what?
Judges ruled the tariffs were illegal and the president doesn’t have the authority to set them.
Judges ruled creating DOGE was illegal.
Judges ruled the DOGE firings were illegal.
Judges ruled the Venezuelan boat missile strikes were illegal.
Judges ruled the Epstein files must be released.
And still, nothing. Not just that, but everyone seems to have forgotten the US Martials are responsible for enforcing court orders and rulings. Have ANY US Martials been deployed to enforce these orders? Of course not.
The hard Rs are bringing us fascism, whether we like it or not, the limp Ds are rolling out the red carpet for them, and all of it is being funded by tech billionaires
When we take it back, and we WILL take it back, we are going after every one of those Traitors and they will feel the full wrath of the law for every single criminal count they violated. Treason, Corruption, and Pedophilia will no longer be tolerated in the next version of America.
US judge rules
And who cares about the rest as it’s irrelevant. Ice will do what it wants and doesn’t give a shit about judges or their rulings, and judges won’t enforce their tulings.
So if a judge says something about ice, it doesn’t matter. If he makes a ruling about ice, it doesn’t matter.
There is no news here, call me when a judge, any judge, somehow enforces their rulings.
It will get enforced, eventually, one way or another.
You mean like Judge Dredd?
Niko Bellic is particularly good at law. This part of his resume stood out to me:
Involvement in Criminal Law particularly in cases of manslaughter, homicide, drug dealing, extortion, racketeering, and grand theft auto. Launched, and successfully tried, cases against corrupt individuals including division heads and company CEOs
He looks like a great fit for the anti-corruption law team. Thumbs up from me for a hire.
When the system is rotten from the top down then nothing matters.
Problem with those secret memos is someone had to issue them. And if illegal. … consequencea
