I’m growing tomatoes, peppers, and cucumbers for my first time not on a balcony, and I’m a tad concerned about caterpillars, squirrels, and other wildlife finding their way to my crops; that said, I would like to keep my space as earth friendly as possible, so chemical pesticides are out. I’ve read blog articles about trimming the lowest branches to prevent disease and planting trap crops such as nasturtiums and marigolds to lure pests away from the tomatoes. Do these techniques actually work? How do other gardeners handle this situation?

  • justdaveisfine@piefed.social
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    I honestly don’t know if this is a super great solution but we set up birdhouses and a bird feeder. Now that some birds have moved in, they tend to hang out in the garden each afternoon and pick it clean of bugs.

    I haven’t found a reliable way to keep squirrels out though.

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    Although likely not a solution most are willing to implement, I always loved a philosophy a friend shared with me years ago. Plant your garden in a fenced-in area and then plant a second garden outside the fence.

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    I’m still learning yet am definitely more advanced than a novice so I am hoping to help.

    I too have tried marigolds, after a summer spent battling squash bugs. We grow a lot of squash (pumpkins, zucchini, delicata squash, butternut squash) and it was horrible. I don’t think the marigolds did anything aside from add a bit of colorful cheer to the garden. Nothing aside from manual removal and soap for the nymphs came close to controlling their population, at one point we used harsh pesticide (Seven I think it’s called?) and while it worked for the most part I really did not want to use it on the food I intend to eat again. Our solution: stop growing squash for two years as squash bugs will overwinter. This was the most extreme measure and this growing season is the last before we can plant again. Keep fingers crossed for us next year :)

    I also battle: aphids, brassica moths ( I think this is what they’re called, they lay eggs and the caterpillars munch on leaves and stems), and squirrels.

    For the aphids, a simple water/castille soap mixture does the trick but I need to check regularly for maintenance.

    The brassica moths can be taken care of at the caterpillar stage with an eco-friendly pesticide, I’m sorry I can’t remember what it’s called but it’s food safe and only targets the caterpillars when they eat it. I’m sure a quick google search will find it for you if interested.

    Oddly, the squirrels are the biggest nuisance in my garden in the past 5 years I’ve been gardening in this home. They dig up seedlings like it’s a game, and they take bites out of random plants. For example, I’m growing asparagus (have been for 3 years now) and for some reason this year they just love to take bites out of the tops (the most tasty part too, grrrrr). They’ve also bitten my strawberries, which is super annoying because they just take one bite and leave the rest which can’t be eaten by anyone else. Best solution: motion activated sprinkler pointed at the crops they disturb. We also sprinkle ground coffee on the ground and it does seem to create an area they avoid…for now. Squirrels are incredibly smart and crafty.

    My biggest takeaway: check your garden every single day for pests, see it as just as important as watering to maintain your crops. Diligence, an open mind, and creativity are your best tools. Best of luck op, and thanks to you and anyone else for reading all of this. Posts like this help us learn together.

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    Basically it boils down to three main methods:

    1. Planting plnts in between that deter pests like leeches (also onion, garlic) and herbs etc.
    2. Using herbal infusions from plants like burn7ng nettle or those containing mustard oil.
    3. Attracting pest predators. This goes all the way from buying eggs of vertibrates (careful to not introduce invasive species) to just making your garden bird and bat friendly.
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      And importantly, you have to have insects before you get insect predators. So if you’ve recently stopped spraying, predators will be slow to return. But they will!

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    Birds will sometimes go after tomatoes just for the water inside them. Providing a source of fresh water, like a clean bird bath, can prevent some losses. I’ve also heard that red painted rocks by strawberries will prevent birds from eating the actual strawberries once they grow in, but I haven’t tried that one myself.

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      I have red painted rocks in my strawberry pots and now the birds leave them alone.

  • ℬ𝒶𝓃𝒶𝓃𝒶
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    The three main pests in my urban garden are rats, insects, and neighbours. :)

    The first two years I grew food I killed almost 20 rats. The rats are not going anywhere so I had to change what I grow:

    • I hang the strawberries
    • I grow tall peas now instead of short ones
    • I no longer grow carrots or beats
    • I spread chili powder around the tomatoes

    For insects:

    • Raised garden beds to reduce slugs
    • Flowers that attract aphids to attract lady bugs
    • Umbellifer flowers to attract beneficial wasps

    For neighbours, I haven’t done anything yet. I may net the fruit trees.

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      Apparently owls are a major rat predator IF you keep your exterior lights low. Might increase neighbor incursions though.

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    I have a problem with squirrels. The only solution I’ve found that works is setting up some plastic construction fence (snow fence) around them. Interestingly, I only needed to use it as walls around the plant, not a ceiling. They wouldn’t go in the top for some reason.

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    tomatoes don’t attract insects as much, with them disease will be your main concern

    for caterpillars and aphids, on other plants, we use a brush. For aphids, I tried black soap solutions but it was useless. Brushing them away while encouraging predatory insects works for us.

    repellent companion plants, i came to think, are a myth. Sacrifing some (i guess that’s what you call “trap”) plants helps.

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    Look up companion planting for what you’re growing. Some plants others have mentioned are good to deter certain bugs/pests for certain plants. It’ll also give you ideas for plants that attract other bugs that eat the pests. It’s nature at its finest!

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    I’ve been known to hatch praying mantis ootheca to have an army of predators to manage pest insects. Worked well for the most part, and preying mantids are very chill and neat

    But I haven’t gardened in a while so I’m not sure what I’ll need this year when I’ve rebuilt everything. Fortunately my chicken fence seems to finally have deterred deer (I live in town on a very small lot, but at separate times I’ve had a 12 point buck and several does just hang out in my yard all day) which was a major concern previously. I might put a fence around the raised beds to keep rabbits and such out, but only if I have to.

    I’m planning to replace a lot of bushes and things that are growing on my property now, to make my landscape largely edible, with the full understanding that wildlife will probably get to much of it before I do. I’m adding stuff like serviceberry just for them, they can have the grapes and apples I can’t reach, too.

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    Some sort of fencing for things like rabbits.

    I usually just look for signs of pests and then treat with something appropriate which could just be manual removal with a last resort of Captain Jack’s deadbug brew.

    I always grow marigolds but I’m not sure if they work or not. The pests I get tend to vary every year but they mostly go after my kale. Agree with someone else that disease is your main issue with tomatoes.

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    I usually do nothing really complicated to deal with pests. Unless you are trying to optimize yields to the nth degree it won’t really affect it too hard. I would trim the bottom branches from my tomatoes (this helps for pests and mostly for keeping tomatoes off the ground). Peppers need something similar. Cucumbers work best on some kind of trellis so the vines stay off the ground.

    I have never really had too much issues with these plants doing nothing preventative. I did have some racoons eat my corn before (that sucked). I would plant marigolds or nasturtium but that’s because I love them both.

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    My yard backs up to a canyon, so I have all kinds of critters running around. The rabbits are easy to keep out with a chickenwire fence. I grow marigolds and green leafy plants to attract green lynx spiders. The spider gal last year put in a lot of work protecting my garden. It’s also attracted a few mantises here and there, which is helpful.

    Rats are a major problem for my tomatoes. I grow the tomatoes in an Earth Box, so I used green fencing that the rats couldn’t get through and just wrapped it around the whole thing. Thankfully, this year should have fewer rats because the neighbors got rid of their giant bird of paradise where they were nesting. There is also no pile of wood between the houses, another nesting place.

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    We had to build a full enclosure of 1/4" hardware cloth - including the top. Chipmunks were the worst, but birds, squirrels, and deer also attacked the plants. It needs to be tended to keep it effective or something will find a way in. We call it the plant prison.

    As for insects, my wife won’t use anything"artificial", so it’s neem oil and diatomaceous earth. It doesn’t work very well so we loose most of the zucchini.

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      Insecticidal soap should work on squash bugs. Plenty of recipes online for making your own.

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    I’ve never had anything go after my tomatoes, peppers, or cucumbers, though I don’t have any wildlife besides birds where I live. The only pests I have are aphids on my kale. I regularly buy ladybugs and they deal with the aphids.