I’ve worked in IT for close to 30 years and I’ve never met anyone with a good word to say about Oracle. I remember them being notorious for auditing their customers and nailing them to wall for even the slightest perceived infraction of their convoluted license agreements. I don’t understand how they still exist.
JDK is the greatest scam ever.
When something needs JDK, most people usually just download the first one they find without much thought, just like with any dependency, which is Oracle’s, instead of OpenJDK.
Oracle will go after companies where their employees unknowlingly installed their JDK for some minor thing, and hit them with multimillion fine for breaking their license after a while. Or at least I remember hearing they used to.
Blocking anything Oracle company-wide, especially JDK, is the first thing an IT admin should do.
A prior company I worked at had a compliance division whose work was about 80% Oracle. As in, their attention over preventing Oracle JRE installs in favour of Azul Java was 4× higher than ensuring anything Microsoft - or anything else under the sun, actually - was properly licensed.
Yes but on top their software is clunky and lacks basic usability?
Military contracts
auditing their customers and nailing them to wall
Vendor lock-in is quite profitable.
Big on Govt projects too
I interviewed with them a few years ago and the dev I talked to said it was the best job he ever had.
That was the only time I ever heard anything positive about Oracle.
They exist for the same reason McAfee exists. They’re a CIA front.
Fr? Super interested do you know where I can read about this? :)
There’s relatively little information given how prominent these companies are. But the CIA was the first customer of both companies, and were most likely involved in their founding. Here’s a article to get you started on Oracle: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/oracle-s-coziness-with-government-goes-back-to-2820370.php
John McAfee claimed he never used McAfee VirusScan. He never said why but while on the run in Belize he said no one should use VirusScan. My wild guess is that it might be because it scans for lots of stuff that aren’t in your interest as a user, and probably provides a convenient backdoor into your computer for certain people.
If you want the weird stuff on Oracle there’s a crazy woman who’s obsessed with Larry Ellison that writes all kinds of things about him on a place called the Drey Dossier.
very very cool thanks for sharing!
I got my first computer at 15, in 2005, and even then they were very clearly bad just from my newbie experience and seeing forums posts. The word itself is so tainted for me because of them. One of the companies that “enshittified” way ahead of the curve.
Their sales and especially enterprise sales team are good at convincing people that they really need MySQL. Once their pitch works, then come the lawyers and the nailing part
Yet they keep working for an evil company. They could have not done that. Had a little integrity. But no, so…
Oh hey I’m from the future where you get judged harshly for where you choose to work.
Once you start using their software you cannot stop
It is really performant for the job it is required to do, they sell haxadata server which have really high performances
Broadcom support portal goes brrrrrr
They’ve sponsored some really cool sailboats
Start forcing users to use AI
lose staff
Fire staff so that AI can take over
lose staff
Find out AI can’t replace the users, get devalued
lose staffseems pretty toxic
My last day at a dumpster fire AI slop company is next week, and I can’t wait.
How are you feeling now?
Morally I feel I made the right decision, financially probably not but I’ll choose morals over cash any day.
Won’t know if I’ll stay in IT yet for a few months at this new job, or if I need to pivot harder
I used to work for Oracle and this pleases me. Nobody should have to work for Oracle.
I worked with Oracle software, and … basically the same statement.
Some Oracle hr droid tried to hire me fresh out of university. It’s been “some” years, and I’ve never heard anybody saying that I was a fool for turning it down.
Imagine failing this hard at your job and keeping it.
And I know his job is to keep the stock price high… but 28 percent growth over the last five years in tech is still failing at your job.
“Double digit YoY or get out. Doesn’t matter how many people you have to fire or how hard to exploit the ones you keep. Double digit or GTFO.” -Shareholders
Besides the usual CEO shenanigans, they really want AI to succeed, to replace usually leftist intellectuals with a far-right AI.
I want cold fusion, cancer to be cured for 1 dollar, and flying ponies. But I know I’m not getting those.
They aren’t going to get true AI either.
Fire Larry and sell his stock and his yachts and you’ll be in the black again.
Imagine. Oracle not being relevant. The dream
It’s already irrelevant in most places. If you’re non-American you only heard of Oracle’s Sun acquisitions like mysql, virtualbox or openjdk.
What are: 3 technologies I stopped using 20 years ago?
Why does Larry Ellison give me such crazy uncanny valley vibes?! Is his head too long? Moustache too narrow? Generally too smooth? It has fucked me up all day scrolling past this image.
First time I saw him I thoughr he looked like John McAfee.
New incredibly niche conspiracy theory just dropped
Plastic surgery and fillers are supposed to give him a youthful appearance. Instead it makes him look like a fucking blow up sex doll.
Why does Larry Ellison give me such crazy uncanny valley vibes?!
He turns 82 next month.
I think his gotee and hair just look like absolute shit. Further proof nobody cares about him.
He looks like an older Vincent Price.
Chinese open-source models are becoming the norm. You don’t need the latest model from ChatGPT (e.g., a Ferrari) to complete your task. A simple Honda will suffice (open-source models), and it uses a lot less energy since it runs on your home or company’s infrastructure.
Because of that, I predict that we’re going to see a lot of financial hardship among AI companies.
Open-weight not open source mostly. And they’re not keeping them open weight forever. Once they’ve truly surpassed the west, their future models will likely be closed down too so they could charge Anthropic level pricing and turn a profit.
I don’t know how much they’re actually doing to surpass the West tbh. A lot of the success relies on distilling closed models, and running the models cheaper with almost comparable effectiveness. If the Chinese are showing that such profit/investment strategies in closed models are weak and can be easily decimated by a competitor, what motivation would they have to adopt one?
If their models truly are reaching parity with new western models as many claim, then it can’t be from distillation alone, they must be gathering their own datasets too. It takes months to train a new model.
Also distillation only really saves you the data collection and preparation (categorization). Training is still expensive, as is inference. It’s likely architectural changes that are making their inference cheaper (MoE vs dense models for one), not sure if they’ve gotten any good methods for making training cheaper.
There is zero proof of distillation. Minimax 2.7 development was surrounded by moderate use of Claude. M3 is their latest generation, and pretty solid, but its performance cannot be attributed solely (or even 5%) to distillation, and that is only lab that has been accused of significant API use. These claims are all 3-4 months old by now, and Anthropic blocked China access after publishing the accusations. Repeated BS is BS from losers trying to lobby for support.
Deepseek v4 flash as it is now is perfectly fine for the basic agent stuff I use it for which is basically remote controlling my computer from a distance without using remote desktop. Not sure id be effected significantly if they blocked off their future models.
Hop on rednote, they aren’t fans of their own AI and were collectively throwing fits when claude got banned there.
it uses a lot less energy since it runs on your home or company’s infrastructure.
A CPU-cycle requires energy no matter where it is. The open source models may be more efficient, or you may distribute the power usage over a greater geographical area. But you’re not using less energy because you’re running the model at home.
Because of that, I predict that we’re going to see a lot of financial hardship among AI companies.
I do like the idea that open source will kill tech giants.
You are correct. OpenAI etc. valuations are based on the difference between revenue and cost. The key part is that open source breaks the monopoly. It stops excessive rent being charged (now or in the future) to use Ai models.
Tech giants will still exist, but closed model advantages won’t.
i thought tech valuations were based off of vibes and social currency
Initially maybe. Long term, money has to be returned.
companies thought they were saving money by purchasing subscriptions from LLMs.
Why is this news for a site like Jerusalem Post?
because everyone else already posted this 6 months ago
No matter how much I try, all I see in this picture is Mel Brooks as President Skroob sniffing Air out of a can.
I told you not to call me on this wall. This is an unlisted wall.
And this was after they fired about 30,000 employees.
So now they HAVE to double down and fund this AI infrastructure, because sunk costs dictate that they can’t admit to a bad decision and hire back the terminated employees.
Just because it’s costly doesn’t mean they aren’t going to push forward with all their might, unfortunately
Anyone with sense still locked in to Oracle products needs to find their nearest exit strategy.
I know it won’t be easy, but the alternative is going to be a lot messier when they completely go to shit and you lose everything.
Fucking wild to read the article. Oracle got pissy because regulations said you can’t just shove datacenter electricity costs on people.
Are you americans ready for the bailout? Open your wallets wide!
I too see it coming.
email/call your reps pre-emptively and say no bailouts
bet they woulda been fired even if ai was generously adopted
Ellison: job
creatordestroyer.People shouldn’t be working for super villains.
People stand around wondering why the fuck these companies are able to do what they do and these billionaires the same. WELL BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR THEM CHAD. IT’S LITERALLY YOUR FAULT!
In a shitty job market, a job for the supervillain is better than starving and being homeless.
This rhetoric comes from a place of privilege.
Lmao, they are quite literally saying it is the suffering peoples fault. Evil supervillains literally find and abuse any leverage they can get to make people work for them, depriving them of any other option. That’s why they’re supervillains to begin with.
The /s was implied there, to me at least
It’s not shitty enough to completely leave your ethics at the door. You might need to take a little less pay, or work on something less interesting (although we’re talking about Oracle here).
Somebody who landed a job at Oracle had options. That is until today. Now they have 21,000 other people to compete with.
It’s the people somewhere like Nvidia I have some empathy for. They thought they were building gaming tech and they’ve ended up building the apocalypse.
Lol, I will admit, Oracle is like working for Palintir, you know what you’re signing up for.
DO NOT ANTHROMORPHISE LARRY ELISION
