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ubuntu because my brain is so small
the name comes from the Bantu word “ubuntu” which loosely translated means, “debian is too hard”
Manjaro.
Throws the table
Why? I really enjoyed Mankato while slowly breaking it (Arch is just not for people like me)
I would answer debian, but I want her to say arch.
I want my girlfriend to be smarter than me ok!?
Whenever I hear Debian, I always imagine a newb OS called Nubian and damn that’d slap as a name.
All text would be in Papyrus font.
I always imagine a newb OS called Nubian
You mean an African distro?
Why not-a? It-a worked for Nana Bou’s African bistro-a!
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Reverse UNO
NixOS* but yes
“Debian or Arch?”
Get out you corporate sellout!
It’s the best of both worlds
spoiler
RPMs are better than DEBs
I’m fine with .ebuild and .xbps, thnx.
Yeah I get some good RPMs on my 2001 Honda Civic.
Elaborate.
Both. desktop is arch based, server is Debian.
You slut, you!
That’s all it takes to be a distro slut!?
What the heck am I then?
%brl list -v artix bedrock ceres -> devuan-ceres devuan -> devuan-ceres devuan-ceres devuan-ceres-new devuan-chimaera devuan-testing -> devuan-chimaera devuan-unstable -> devuan-ceres exherbo fartix fentoo fexherbo garyos gentoo gentoostudio goblin gs -> gentoostudio hijacked -> gentoo init -> gentoo jentoo kentoo kentwo local -> gentoostudio marklar oasis pclinuxos space suckless tentoo tudio -> gentoostudio ubuntu void void-kdeAnd that’s just one of my computers.
[… it’s starting to make sense, thinking about one thing I made, I called wminizer]
I suggest a regimen of cold showers and coarse towels.
But like with glasses or something.
What the heck am I then?
A container slut.
What the heck am I then?
A container slut.
???
But… there are zero containers on any of my systems.
Actually, looking at that list again, I see I’ve neglected upgrading on that computer for longer than I realised… chimaera as testing? *checks site*, yeah that’s “Chimaera 4.0 has moved to oldoldstable status.”. That’s like 4 versions old. XD
Are you waiting for an invitation?
Oooh yeah, baby, let’s debug the networking stack together!
Don’t be silly,
chmod o-wyour$WILLY!Phew! For a split second I misred that as
chmod o+w.
Yep. “Depends on the use case” is a solid answer.
🥵 yeah talk dirty to me.
My iptables INPUT chain default policy is set to ACCEPT.
I run apt upgrade before apt update.
This is the way! Everything is based on Arch, Debian or Fedora anyway so you might as well stick to what is well known and supported.
angry Gentoo and NixOS noises
well known and supported 🤪
From my understanding NixOS and Gentoo is “support it yourself”. I haven’t tried either of them so I could be completely wrong about that.
It’s pretty much the same thing as everywhere, you have a bunch of lovely people who package and test things, nothing too weird. What you are describing is LFS.
I was under the impression that you had to compile everything yourself on Gentoo and in Nix that you have to mess with a config to do everything and anything.
Maybe I should try them both to see what the fuzz is about.
Speaking about Gentoo, you don’t “have to” compile everything, but let’s just say it’s strongly encouraged. Most of the compilation is automated though, think AUR on steroids. If you don’t want to touch anything, you can go with defaults for all the software and you’ll get basically what you get on any other distro.
The thing is, though, if you are not being a little funny with your software, why the hell are you running Gentoo? So, it’s entirely optional, but it’s the main reason one would use Gentoo, otherwise you get a stock standard system with stupidly long updates.
I can’t speak for Nix, though, I haven’t touched it myself, but from what I know from those around me running it, it’s pretty much the same thing, unless you want something cool, you don’t have to suffer.
Okey thank you so much for the information! I can see the appeal. More freedom and customization. I am all for it.
But for my use cases I think Arch is enough. It strikes a nice balance with official packages and the AUR and I love that you get to choose all of the packages you want to have installed.
How is Nix with software support these days?
Nothing else even comes close, except the AUR, but even that not really:
Interesting graphs.
Alas, the metric’s a mite confounded by the different ways distros split up packages. So it skews e.g. the Debians up, and the voidlinuxen down.
… I’m guessing that still wouldn’t be enough to put a dent in AUR and nixpkg 's towering package counts though.
That is very surprising, last I heard it had to catch up with having popular applications. Is this due to how package dependencies differ on Nix vs what people think of traditionally as packages?
Not really. (When was last time?)
The reason is more that the config language that you have to learn if you want to use NixOS is the exact same you use to package applications for NixOS.
So any user is also just a tiny, non-intimidating step away from being a contributor and package maintainer.
I know for myself, I never packaged for the AUR - just seemed way to intimidating and a lot of new stuff to figure out - but I maintain a bunch of packages and modules in nixpkgs, and they’re all stuff that was “huh, this is cool but not packaged yet; alright, I’ll package it in my private config; oh that was easy, let’s upstream it”.
Couldn’t even tell you tbh.
Well that’s pretty cool. I always liked the idea of being mega reproducible. I might try it on my home server instead of Debian.
There is another reply to this comment where I said I’m not using it. If you are interested in something specific why not just go type the package name into their repository search thingy?
Slackware users in shambles!
uss babe uss
Both.
Debian for anything that has to run unattended for a long time without requiring much care. Arch for the desktop.
Ubuntu Server LTS on my first-ever server. I’mma green rook at this. I’m amazed at how quickly and easily Casa was to get up and running on an old laptop.
I still got a long ways to go before I can try Debian for a server.
Debian is just Ubuntu without all the annoying parts.
While I agree about the annoying Ubuntu parts, Ubuntu Server LTS does seem to ditch those annoying parts also. Besides, I’m running CasaOS over the top. So I haven’t needed to deal with Ubuntu directly after setup. And hopefully, it stays that way until that old laptop dies.
My wife uses Debian, but I love her anyway. ❤️
Do you call her Debbie Anne?
Fun fact that not a lot of people seem to know: the name is a portmanteau of “Deborah” and “Ian”. The names of the Creator and his then wife
Debbie Anne, Debbie Anne
Much to cool for Windows pain
Debbie Anne she’s like one in a mill-
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanDeb Deb Deb, Deb Debbie Anne!
She’s just baffled that anyone who knows those two distributions could be so dense as to whittle down the vast infinite sea of possible options to just two incredibly boring ones. She would have cried next if he hadn’t done it.
Also, OpenSUSE.
well the vast majority of those are just arch and debian with extra steps, with the occasional fedora based or independent distro
Yep. Should be “Windows or Linux?”
I know part of the joke is that it’s not this comparison--that asking “arch or debian” also rules out Windows--but it really is the important dividing line.
“Hammer to penis or steak” is less interesting than “Steak or lobster”
Anyways the answer is Steak, and a different steak if its for a server, and lobster (derogatory) if its for an important server
I use the only correct option. TempleOS. /j
openSUSE.
Im still surprised that opensuse still exists. We had to give it a try for networking classes back in ~2007 and it was very server oriented and totally didnt have a desktop feel.
That was almost 20 years ago. It is nothing like that anymore I would say. Some things are still more complicated to configure but then, other things just work that don’t work for example on my other system that runs pop-os, in general openSUSE is just as easy to install as any user friendly distro. And among the rolling release distros, openSUSE Tumbleweed is probably the most stable of them all.
opi is a great tool, even when just looking for applications in the regular repository. But then you can also very easily access the open build service with it as well.
Debian in the kitchen and Arch in the bedroom
Debian in the kitchen
You only buy pre-made food?
That’s where Gentoo belongs, or LFS if you don’t like following recipes.I buy ingredients, not seeds and animals.
Only buy traditional food with a best before date at least 3 years in the future.
In bedroom a new bed every other day with a lot of bed bugs.
don’t kink share
Hence why so many of us are gay for each other.
I’m all for touching as long as we don’t sudo
fuck. um, what if i sudo while you rm rf
I thought it was because we’re all femboys and trans catgirls.
Nah I’m just a boring old homo
“Arch or Debian?”
“TempleOS, you heathen!”
And then I pushed him over
~And then he kissed me~
What happens when a zealot meets a more zealous zealot
“Zealot” is relative to where you currently are. Mint -> Debian -> Arch -> FreeBSD -> OpenBSD -> Plan 9 -> TempleOS
Then straight back to Mint! Full circle, bell curve meme style.
That’s actually what I’ve seen a lot! After a few years of tinkering with your system, the idea of something stable and polished is very appealing, so you can focus on getting things done.
I run Arch on my personal machine and Debian on my server and honestly Debian gives me more issues.
It doesn’t like zfs and Nvidia drivers are always a fight. Debian is still good though if all you want to run is a web server forever.
This hurts because Debian is named after a couple (Debra Lynn and Ian Murdock) who got married and divorced and Ian passed away. Going with Debian is a lifetime of hurt.
On the other hand Arch girls are described in Rick James’s song “Superfreak”.
and yet… their names are immortalized… it wouldnt surprise me if debian is still around in 50 years
She’s a Hannah Montana girl.
So… Debian then? Hannah Montana Linux has historically been a kubuntu reskin
There’s a Hannah Montana Linux? Wild.
There was a while ago and then it was recently revived
There’s even a Justin Bieber Linux! JBL or gtfo
Truly these are glorious days.
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