this isn’t just boomerhumor, you missed something
this is a nuanced topic. as much as this meme is trying to be intelligent, it’s just as dumb as what it’s critiquing.
you learn to think from books, but film and TV exercises that thinking. in film you’ll find symbolism and metaphor and meaning, intentional or not.
being able to extract that is intelligence, not raw facts. americans love to boast about how educated they are and about the virtues of education, but why are there millions of users of goodreads and letterboxd and few can write a coherent paragraph about a book they read or a film they watched?
it’s because of this type of braindead thinking–it’s all about imagination!!! imagination is great, but it’s really about thinking; it’s about not being stuck in thought patterns that lead nowhere.
when i first saw this meme i thought the left one was a dark fountain from deltarune lol
I mean they do represent fiction
1 man 1 jar 😍
Lmfao!
es eskaliert wirklich
It’s me at different times of the day.
This but with yiff 👌
Yikes. I really hope you don’t have any pets.
I’ll take “I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about” for 500, Alex
Gross
It’s okay sweetheart, someday you’ll grow up too. I believe in you!
Why you gotta kink shame? Let people do their thing.
I mean, if you put out your kink like that, you have to expect some differing opinions.
If yiff is kinky, bondage may kill you from the adrenaline rush. I consider yiff to be along the same lines as wearing alluring lingerie, lol.
Well, of course you would. If you’re in the community you’d have a skewed view of the normalcy of the fetish.
The vast majority of the population would consider getting off to anthropmorphic animals fucking to be a weird kink.
Not that I’m saying there’s anything wrong with that kink, mind you.
One can say that about anything beyond vanilla missionary with the lights off for the sole purpose of reproduction too, though :p
Like, (just venting to the void, not at you) for me breasts are borderline repulsive imo, but I’m not walking around screaming ‘disgusting’ every time I go to run errands and interact with others. Some people just need to hate on others to feel better about themselves.
Let’s be honest, all three children are looking at tablets.
Isn’t that Shinji?
Ewww. Breeder sex
Sir that’s Peter Pan getting railed by Peter Pan.
I have aphantasia.
How does reading and watching it in your mind’s eye change anything from just watching it on a screen?
I prefer audio books because it allows me to critically think better during because I can listen and think at same time, but reading words takes more brain power.
aphantasia - the inability to voluntarily create mental images in your mind’s eye.
I guess this extends to reading? I wasn’t sure if that would count as “voluntarily” since it just seems to happen for me.
I read to my kids every night and if there is a movie of the book we’re reading, I will finish the book with them before we watch the movie. In this way, the images they have in their minds as we read are theirs. Sometimes interesting things happen in your mind when it needs to create its own images and I think this is a personal part of reading that makes it more than just consumption but also a creative act unto itself.
Once Hollywood has made Jennifer Lawrence the protagonist, that’s all you’ll be able to see ever again.
However none of this would apply in your case so read or watch or listen however works best for you. Personally I find audiobooks a terrible way to read. My mind wanders instead of focusing more on the text. I realize I’ve been thinking about someone else for several minutes, and ultimately don’t retain as much from the book in the end. It’s like “having the tv on in the background” while doing household chores. That’s fine for stuff I don’t really care about, if I just want to relax and divert my mind. But if I really want to enjoy the book and get everything I can from it, I need to read it.
Brains are obviously different. You can listen and think at the same time. I can read aloud to my kids while thinking of what I need to do at work tomorrow. However if someone is talking to me there is no way I can think about anything except the words coming out of their mouth. This is so much the case that if a person talks haltingly or takes a long time coming to the point, it physically hurts me because my brain is locked on them but they aren’t using it efficiently.
Yes it extends to reading.
I do not have an image in my head of what Harry Potter is supposed to look like after reading the book. As long as the character in the movie didn’t have completely wrong details I wouldn’t think anything of it.
I’m the opposite. I will read a paragraph and then realize that I was thinking about something else and even though I read the paragraph I didn’t absorb any of the knowledge.
I couldn’t imagine reading outloud and thinking about what I need to do for work tomorrow. I have to 100% focus on reading words.
There’s really no difference in the medium or different methods of transmission. It’s possible to imagine the same.
I am very interested in thst condition, if you want to tell about it, like you can not imagine anything really or with some limits or whatever.
I’d say that my imagination isn’t effected. It just doesn’t have mind’s eye images to go along with them.
Best way I can describe it is that it’s like a computer without a screen. The computer knows what the image looks like and it could put it up on a screen if one was attached but it doesn’t have the screen to do so.
I get the “sense” of an image. Like it’s almost there and I could tell you all the details of the image I am trying to imagine.
If you have any questions feel free to ask anything, I enjoy discussing it
I guess it’s a matter of preference, because in my mind there’s no way listening takes less brainpower than reading.
I’d equate it to baking a loaf of bread from a recipe.
If I had the recipe read to me while I was make it I could focus 100% of my attention on making the bread.
If I had to watch a video I would have to watch, pause, then complete the step. If I was reading the recipe I would have to read a step and then do it. My attention would become broken in ways.
If I knew how to make the loaf I could listen to an audiobook while making it. There’s no way I could read a book while making it.
That’s probably very different from person to person, since its different how well they can parse heard words and seen words. For me hearing is way faster, but I’m also more likely to confuse sounds than characters.
I cannot read unless I know what each word is. I can skim something and look for keywords and get a gist but to really understand something I am processing at least parts of every word in my inner voice.
I can’t skim. I also can’t read a text out loud and answer questions to it, I might remember a word here and there, but I have to read so fast that I’m pretty much occupied with transforming words into sounds. I guess I’m lucky that pronunciation of German words never depends on the following word
Reading text outloud for me does take more brain power. I’m reading it in my inner voice and now I have to translate that to spoken words.
I see “Elephant”, I say “Elephant” in my inner voice, I speak “Elephant” in voice. It’s an extra step.
I’d be like you and not really comprehending what I am reading if I just saw the word and verbally said it. I wouldn’t really comprehend the meaning as much.
We usually think in linguistic concepts even when reading a book, one of the most difficult things to do with a student when they are learning drawing is teaching them to really see instead of thinking of linguistic traits. I have aphantasia and it is difficult for me to recall visual traits so instead i focus on visual recipes, or construction while drawing. It is difficult for me to recall faces for example but if i reduce a face to geometric shapes and proportions and do a lot of trial and error so i can approximate a face I’ve seen.
So when reading is not that I am seeing things, but i am making a conceptual map, an abstraction. Kinda like how dreams are like stories we tell ourselves to the point they might seem like intangible images. Sometimes I feel my brain relate stuff i read to things i’ve already seen, or builds some conceptual bridge between known concepts to unknown ones.
But reading is also a practice on itself different than hearing. Language has aesthetics, rhythm character. I feel i learn more about the aesthetic beauty of language by reading it on the page than hearing it on an audio book because it forces me to build that bridge between my horizon of understanding and the authors’.
This is especially true for authors that have an entirely different background than me because to understand them i need to read slower and research. Something that audio books doesn’t allow with it’s predisposed presentation.
If I wanted to get the best experience it would be following along in a book with audio.
I say every word basically with my inner voice while reading, so having someone else do that for me is brain power I do not have to use.
I took a lot of art classes, I can draw with a reference photo.
It is difficult for me to recall faces for example but if i reduce a face to geometric shapes and proportions and do a lot of trial and error so i can approximate a face I’ve seen.
Same I cannot see a person’s face in my mind but I can think of their face in proportions. I would have to do a ton of sketches to get basically sketch a reference photo, then I could work on making it better from there.
I don’t think this is very related to phantasia… With a book you can stop and think about things (imaginatively or critically). With video your entire attention is captured and it’s quite difficult to step away from the narrative being presented. In my experience audio is somewhere in between, and I’m able to zone out on my own tangent sometimes (but this is annoying, because I miss things)
You could pause a movie or show
I can zone out on my own tangents with video or audio and it relates to the video or audio.
I will zone out reading and it will be about completely different things and I’ll realize that I really haven’t gotten anything I just read.
I have to focus on reading, understanding, critically thinking
With video and audio, it’s just understanding and critically thinking. I don’t have to focus on telling my brain the information.
I do too, and I didn’t know it was different for others until I was an adult. When I was young they used to guilt trip me for wasting my intelligence because I hated books.
I grew up inspired by creative world building shown in movies like LOTR and in games. I read more than most people, but it’s never books.
I hate how so many people fail to consider others might not have the same perspective or needs.
Same I didn’t know until I was an adult. My math scores as a child were high but I hated reading and I wasn’t the best at it so I was put in special reading classes.
Do you have the consciously read every word? I don’t understand how people can just look at a paragraph and just soak up the knowledge without going through all the individual words.
I get as much enjoyment from technical books that I read for career and personal reasons as I do fiction, so I usually read non fiction as it at least has a purpose for me. I wonder how much is related to my not being able to visualize anything.
Reading both is very similar for me but non-fiction does give more imagination material.
Like if I read Star Wars I would get a lot more ideas on space and jedi. If I read about the Kreb Cycle I would just know the information on the Kreb Cycle.
I think I might have an imagination fault in addition to ‘can’t see things in my mind’ (which I thought was completely made up that people could just picture things in their head, it still freaks me out even though I’ve accepted it) fault. I can imagine things of course but only in like a practical reality sense. Like my mind doesn’t have a bridge to ‘maybe’ kinds of theory unless I can make it make sense along the way. That’s not to say I don’t imagine things that make sense in my head that would be complete disasters, because I do, regularly, and peer review has saved me countless times. I don’t know how to explain but the more I hear about how other people’s brains work it makes me think mine is broken and constrained significantly for some reason.
I’m just wondering why that kid’s watching a guy drop a deuce
Much worse, it looks like he’s watching 1 guy 1 cup… 🫥
Jar*
Do…do you really want the context?
I… Don’t know anymore…
Wait is that actually supposed to be 1 guy 1 jar
It’s just a simple wall outlet IT’S JUST A SIMPLE WALL OUTLET LALALALALALALALALALA
I was one of the unlucky 10,000 the last time this was posted. Let someone else have their day ruined.
Or made. You know, maybe they’re one of the lucky ones in that cohort to find out just how much they love
poop.
Is that jar guy?
One man, one jar
What did I miss? The guy pooping? And this is just boomer humor. Books are great but visual art can do the same thing for my brain.
It’s not poop. And it’s not leaving his pooper.
Oh God. Is it… Is it going in? And do I want to know what “it” is?
It’s going in. And it’s a simple, plain, glass jar.
I so hoped it would
*crrracckkk
Yes and probably not. And hell no for the third question you didn’t ask.
No
And no.
And this is just boomer humor.
you doubt me? I’m so offended :<
I did doubt you. And now that I’ve received explanation, I’M offended.
No, it’s something much worse. Just move on.
No, tell him exactly what it is.
My curiosity will get the better of me one way or another.
Tap for just the name of the reference
It’s a reference to the Shock Site video “1 man 1 jar”
don't tap this or I'll tell you what that is.
A man sits on a glass jar, and it shatters in his anus. He whimpers but does not speak, and removes pieces of bloody glass from his anus with his shaking hands.
I warned you.
Fuck man. I think I’ve heard of this but def haven’t watched it. Thanks all the same.
Name checks out
Fuckin right it does
You can access to fantasy and fairytale story through both online and book, depend on your choice
I read a lot of SciFi when I was a teen. I learned not to bother seeing the movie if one was made. They always got so much wrong, and by “wrong” I mean it didn’t match my imagination.
This is why I’m currently hesitating to watch Hail Mary Project.
Does it “look” different? I only notice when they leave out important things are distort
I’m a big fan of the book. Couldn’t stand the movie.
I was really surprised because, while I have a track record of hating adaptations of books I’ve read, a lot of my friends that had read the book absolutely loved the movie. So I thought maybe it would be okay, even if I didn’t love it. But I couldn’t finish the movie at all, I didn’t even make it halfway.
Out of curiosity, have you watched and read 2001: A Space Odyssey? How did that comparison go, if you have?
I hated the book, so I am excited to see the film
Well, I’m glad I didn’t read the book then. I watched it with no expectations going in and had a great time.
The movie actually gets it mostly right. It’s not 100% true to the book, no movie can be but it’s pretty damn close.
Eh, I read plenty but definitely don’t see any of the things described.
Probably depends what book you read
Nah, I can’t picture things in my head. The visual description words are mainly just excess test I’m going to quickly forget.
I disagree, books can never have as colorful worlds in my head as movies an comics. Unless I watched the movie before I read the book. Book is just slower information transfer than audiovisual, but it’s not limited to what can be visualized. In the end both is passive consumption unlike something active like videogames
Uh… Do you have aphantasia, perhaps?
Seems creating novel mental images works differently from memory recall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefrontal_synthesis
No, I don’t think so, since I can visualize what I’ve seen. If I read a book after having seen the movie, the characters will look like that. I think that’s how it was with Harry Potter
Case in point: I absolutely LOVE The Lord of the Rings films. Absolute masterpieces that haven’t aged A DAY.
Tolkien’s “The Fellowship of the Ring” had me asleep in 25 pages.
