We learned in Trump 1.0 that he is extremely isolationist and wants to cut the US off from the world like it’s North Korea.
The way an abusive spouse cuts their partner off from all other social contacts.
The way FOX News encourages its viewership to stop watching all other media sources so they’re in an information silo.
And the US voted for him again, because we vote based on vibes and bigotry. Because we have forgotten our civic duty to vote responsibly. Because we are suckers for lying confidence men who make ridiculous promises.
So the US is due for more than a bit of harsh finding out. We should have learned after George W. Bush. We didn’t and FA’d. (Effed A?)
Anyhow a lot of Americans have cut off their MAGA relatives and neighbors. It is no surprise at all that Canada — and the entire international community — might do the same.
I’m skeptical the US is going to survive to the November election, much less the new Congress in January.
When are people going to learn that exports aren’t even good. The export market just gets a lot of play in politics because of concentrated interests. Exporters lobby. Politicans present arguments to justify what they are doing for exporters. That becomes political rhetoric. Generations later people actually believe it.
Countries with high exports don’t have a great quality of life. Exports don’t improve the quality of life people living there. It increases work and lowers real wages as often as not. It just makes exporter’s rich. Did British people actually benefit from the opium wars? Do Chinese workers have physical prosperity matching their level of productivity?
Exporters have convinced countries that money is more valuable than goods. Countries print money.
This is why the tariffs don’t actually hurt Canada but are just a self-own for the US. It hurts Canadian exporters. But who cares. Now Canadians get to enjoy those products. If a few jobs are lost momentarily, they are replaced by jobs serving the domestic market.
Almost everything you said is logically invalid
Only one nation has ever invaded Canada, and we taught them the error of their ways. If necessary, we will teach them that lesson again.
We could go to war and there would still be people in both countries completely fucking oblivious
Nope. Americans are used to having wars on the other side of an ocean. Those are wars you can be oblivious of. When drones are buzzing overhead and you see smoke rising from the strategic targets in your city, you can’t drive to work because the bridge was taken down and there’s military checkpoints everywhere asking to see your papers to prove you aren’t Canadian? I think Americans will notice that.
Depends where you hit
True, there are idiots everywhere. Btw, if you have never done so, I highly recommend Pierre Burton’s two part book series on the War of 1812.
In a way, as a Canadian, I’m glad for Trump for two reasons. One, we hated him so much that the conservative candidate in our federal election lost what should have been the easiest conservative win of my lifetime because he threw in support behind trump. And two, we are finally diversifying our economy away from that volatile ass country.
gotta say i agree, and while I realize Carney is just another 2008 conservative, at the very least he is competent.
that being said, do you think we are headed for an orange official opp considering PP’s dwindling popularity with Lewis’ growing popularity (considering the orange who kept their seats were partcularly progressive)
An old friend of mine from university was recently in New York with her kids and posted pics of Central Park on Facebook. And I wondered how fucking oblivious is she
both settler colonial states at the end of the day…

I love cobra chickens! Very representative of Canada.
The art of the deal
The whole earth should boycott the Yanks
The country should be sanctioned out of existence.
Plus their little pal Israel. I saw a meme making a case for the biblical ark being built in North America. Perhaps we could convince Bibi and his cronies Israel should actually be in the American Midwest. We’ll see how many Yanks support Zionism when so-called ‘settlers’ are killing their neighbors and taking their homes.
Yeah it would be great if all the hateful people in the world just went to the US.
So when are you moving there?
Yeah buddy, they’re one and the same.
The word you are looking for is sanction.
I wish I could export myself to Canada permanently
America: I’m bleeding making me the victor
'Tis but a scratch!
You don’t understand it is 5D chess
By playing checkers against your opponent and scamming as much money as possible from your pawns?
They prefer to be called kings, despite never reaching the back row.
if you move your pawns to the end of the board and then move them up in the z-axis, you have successfully extracted tariffs from them.
My brain broke a little bit your statement was so stupid. So, unfortunately, I’m sure you’re 100% correct.
Why trade with Canada when we can just start a war?
Trump: this is Obama’s fault. Republicans: I knew it
Love this but i’ll bet Facebook/insta/Amazon/apple/etc are as popular as ever in Canada.
That’s what happens when companies illegally leverage their monopolies to extinguish any competition.
Digital. Services. Tax.
Bring it back. Fuckem.
Fuck who?
Yes
The Rotten Pumpkin admin, of course.
You’re suggesting USA taxes Canada for using digital services?
No, it would be a tax on revenues that amazon, facebook, adobe, xitter, etc extract from Canadians. Digital Services. Subscriptions, software, that kind of thing.
Oh okay, then yeah I’m here for it.
The reality is most people just dont care where a service originates from, as long as its good. You wouldn’t think it based on the internet, but most people arent on the internet to make points about things.
as long as it’s good.
But they aren’t good.
I literally just said “a service” and thus meaning any service. Therefore, your response suggests that all services arent good.
They mean good as in “functions well” not good as in “is not evil.”
As did the person you replied to.
That’s part (the lesser part, but still important) of why I hate when news orgs use an angry dude on twitter as their example of someone who is up in arms about something.
The Internet is not representative of the population. The people posting are self selected. It’s the same reason if you go looking for coffee advice you’ll find a thousand posts with advice about roasting your own beans while most people are drinking Starbucks, Dunkin, Folgers, and Maxwell House.
The great majority of people do not give a shit what the Internet is doing. A lot of people look but only a teeny tiny slice are posting about it.
I only use Facebook for my business. Mostly just social posts about things which act as promotion. That said, I’m not seeing the results I saw a few years ago. Far fewer interactions on posts, almost no comments. I’m not sure it’s worth doing these days. We get more client contacts from our webpage than via facebook. We’re doing a ton more business these days than a few years ago, so I know it’s not coming from Facebook.
We have a business instagram account as well, but I use a third party to post to facebook/insta and it commonly has an issue posting to instagram. I have personal facebook and insta accounts but I never use them (expect to log into the business accounts). As a user, I can’t stand either of those platforms.
I don’t subscribe to any streaming service. Haven’t for over 3-4 years.
I do use youtube. I also have a business and a personal youtube account that are monitized so I throw videos up a few times a month.
I only use Amazon for my business and even then orders are rare. I try to order from Canadian vendors when possible.
You use lemmy. No one you know uses lemmy. You are literally the minority of minorities
Most people likely think this is a Motörhead fan forum
That’s true. I hate Marvel and Star Wars movies as well. I’m definitely an outlier.
That said, I’m not seeing the results I saw a few years ago. Far fewer interactions on posts, almost no comments.
I know someone who used FB for business. They said engagement was amazing to start with but it was as if FB started hiding their posts to encourage them to pay to promote them.
We tried a paid promotion on facebook a few years back just to see how it did.
It got shit results.
Probably but those services are shit anyways and people should stop using them.
Europe is working on alternatives, it takes time but I think people will switch.
















