I appreciate it, but I’m honestly sick of the slop police.
I don’t like the idea of being tricked by AI either, nor the impact AI has on the environment, but I the slop police everywhere, and don’t add much to the conversation. The whole thing is generally tiring.
Pointing out ‘hey bro, this is AI’ and still discussing the post would be a better approach in my book. Not all doctored images are slop either - Photoshop exists and was how shitposts were made for a really long time. We still discussed those posts, and how silly they were.
Counterpoint: Not adding much to conversation is the point. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t eat the slop. For real convo use real things not corrupted by slopmachines.
But when an LLM adds more to the conversation than the average poster, you have to start wondering what the fuck we are even doing here.
But when an LLM adds more to the conversation than the average poster
You forgot key ingredient and what sparked the comment chain - under slop post. Post something normal and folk may respond differently. Post slop, get hit with anti-slop sticker as caution for others and ignored.
but I’m honestly sick of the slop police.
I’m getting sick of all the AI slop.
Don’t post slop and you won’t have to deal with slop police ;)
I try to avoid it, and do some checks where I can’t but some stuff still trickles through given how much I post.
While I agree with your stance in the broadest terms, I think you’re fighting a losing battle, just given how fast slop can be turned out and how wide spread it is already.
So post slightly less but be more thorough? Or just say “my bad” and move on?
So exacberating the problem is the choice you choose to make?
Advice: Ignore these folks. Fuck “police” even if they are on the left of the political spectrum.
Nah, ignore the slop and fuck the slopslingers. I appreciate the slop police because it can be hard to tell sometimes, and being made aware an image is slop can help me get better at identifying it myself in the future. Also people who post slop need to be told that it fucking sucks, because if I wanted to see garbage with no emotion, I’d just watch Fox News, because at least those robots used to have souls
No, the police are necessary. AI rot causes actual damage to both people and the environment.
I like that dinosaur photographs like this are intentionally black-and-white because it was before colour cameras were invented
Pff everyone knows that not only animals were bigger back then (megafauna), so were fruits (megaflora), continents (pangea), and tornadoes (megablowa).
They would still be pelted by debris and die very painfully
Its kinda weird that they havent found more dinosaurs underneath trailer parks.
Huh?
Trailer parks are stereotypical places to get hit by tornadoes. Tornadoes don’t hit trailer parks more often than anywhere else, but since trailer parks are often wide open spaces with few trees to break up the wind, and a lot of loosely-secured objects to become projectiles, they’re often hit hard enough for the news to do a story on it, thus perpetuating the stereotype.
The joke is that since we’ve just determined that dinosaurs die from tornadoes, we should look for fossils in the stereotypical tornado place. For comedic effect it overlooks the fact that trailer parks are cleared of trees and filled with clutter by humans, so the locations wouldn’t be any more likely to have dead dinosaurs - even those killed by tornado - than anywhere else.
I’m gonna expect you to thoroughly explain any joke when you are called upon by your trigger phrase: “Huh?”
They’re not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.
Tornados have picked up things heavier than sauropods. If it was a big enough tornado, that sucker is airborne.
It’s less the weight and more density to surface area. This is square cube law territory. A human can be lifted by a 65 mph wind, a cow apparently takes 140-280. At that rate large sauropods would exceed theoretical earth wind speeds. What trips people up is thinking in terms of just weight. A double wide trailer with furniture can hit over 30 tons but is mostly air. A large sauropod is significantly heavier, solid, made of more dense materials, and more aerodynamic.
Is it density to surface area or aerodynamics? If it can lift a packed 120 ton train, I would think it can lift a 40 ton sauropod, unless maybe the airflow around it stops the lift?
Surface area/aerodynamics is to make sure the density isn’t spread out in a big sheet or something. Train cars are very fluffy for the max weight they can carry. The stories about trains being picked up don’t really detail that it’s usually empty and/or just rolled over, and not the locomotive.
It brings up the question of whether and where tornados formed on ancient contents. If I recall correctly they’re really not common outside of North America as they need a pretty particular set of geographical and weather conditions to form.
I don’t think tornados are actually that uncommon. North America’s tornado alley is special, but even Germany has roof-destroying tornados pretty much every year - they just aren’t as big or as frequent.
Yeah. And far as I understand, the dinosaur fossils we pull out of the great plains are there because that was the shore line of the Western Interior Seaway. I would expect a massive Seaway to mess up whatever conditions create Tornado Alley.
Also, even within Tornado Alley, the prevalence of big tornados is extremely sensitive to localized quirks of geography. Certain places, like Moore, OK, have been hit with F4 and F5 events several times, while apparent safe zones just a few miles away get hit rarely at all.
North central Pangea might have been a contender.
Some grad student is going to get access to a wind tunnel for this meme
“It isn’t THAT the wind is blowing, it’s WHAT the wind is blowing.”
Sauropods are kind of from everywhere but mostly Asia and North America (as long as what Jurassic World Evolutions III has taught me is accurate). I’m wondering if there’d even had been tornados in those areas back then.
I know NA’s Rockies weren’t formed until like 50–60M years ago or so (same for most of today’s ranges), and there were no polar ice caps as Pangea was splitting up, so air coming down “Canada” wouldn’t have been frigid cold at all. I mean, they’re cold-blooded reptiles with legs, but there’s plenty found in Canada, even Antqrctica. So all those dinos from NA wouldn’t have had tornados. The weather was probably very lush, warm, and chill, especially with all the inland shallow seas.
Would really need to check a map for the rest of them around the world in their eras, but I’m lazy. It’d be pretty easy to guess.
Edit: lol, Seropods… Sauropods* You can tell my knowledge on the Dino part here really is from JWE and that’s about it.
they’re cold-blooded reptiles with legs
Do we even know that for certain? Birds, which are directly decended from dinosaurs, are warm-blooded, and the large size of many dinosaurs calls into question whether their metabolism worked the same as a modern reptile’s - even crodociles are tiny compared to sauropods, t-rex, etc.
Read this the other day. Apparently T-rex at least was warm blooded.
creative thinking… I am hollaring 🤣
