- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.ml
Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:
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Canadian and running on 99% renewal energy were all I needed to know to join sh.itjust.works
Also the name is top notch! And it’s been pretty true to it too.
I like how the name can be read in 2 ways: shit just works and shh it just works!
There was a rough week or two there but it’s been good lately. Happy being a part of it though.
is there a canada based domain running under lemm.eh? because if not, there should be.
I have never heard a better idea
Tbf, depending on the region, that’s just how the electricity is made. The fbxl network runs off of electricity generation made up of 86% hydroelectric and biomass, with the balance made up of wind, solar, and natural gas.
As I have repeatedly repeatedly said, with a geography of canada, the entire country could be 100% renewables in a decade or two if there was a real focus on hydroelectric generation that is presently powering entire regions, and it would make people’s lives better in the process with plentiful inexpensive hydroelectric we would make electric heat the most competitive and thus would start offsetting burning fossil fuels for building heat which would have a massive impact on carbon emissions since buildings make up 25% of total emissions and most building heat is done with fossil fuels because electricity is too expensive and the costs are rising so people are migrating to fossil fuels even with the carbon tax…
But I digress…
I’m confused why it says it is in the Netherlands
I do kinda love this name.
My people!
Also two good reasons for me as well.
It’s strange that it doesn’t report a Canadian flag on the graphic in the post heading though. Looks like Netherlands?
Based
goddammit
i joined dxcomplex because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name);
then it folded so i joined .world because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name);
then it got massive so i joined lemm.ee because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name)i’m starting to wonder if i’m cursed
Wtf go away
but what if going away makes it worse? .world’s downtime has only increased since i made my l.ee acct
Well then, please post where you’re gonna go next so we can avoid your trail.
well actually, i did recently make a backup acct. on lemmy.dbzer0.com…
Well that’s not great for me then
Lol same, I joined FMHY first because I wanted in on a smaller instance. I now self host. Fool me once.
Now you’ll fold when you’re damn good and ready!
Exactly 😂
If you want an instance that almost definitely won’t go under, sdf.org has existed since
19861987 and has an instance at lemmy.sdf.orgactually i almost went for sdf instead of l.ee. the reason i didn’t was that it seems almost too good to be true? i see so many sites around that proclaim they’re hosted on sdf, the biggest text on their homepage says “create a free account” and yet there isn’t a donate button
i realise there’s one on their lemmy instance, and i might choose them if l.ee does fold, but i felt like i was taking advantage of something meant for others
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You are become death
I get your point, but I think lemm.ee is still so much smaller than lemmy.world that it’s not much of a problem (at least not yet).
yeah you’re right, but i’m not (just) being funny when i said that - lemmy.world had only just started when i joined (10 days), still had the old (much nicer) icon and no banner, etc. it had 188 users / month, compared to .ml’s (at the time) 1.8k and lemm.ee’s (current, according to the above infographic) 3.7k…
Considering how many startrek memes I see on lemmy, I’m surprised this was the original meme.
I don’t care what anyone says I will always read it as start rek
Most of the times that i see this meme is always censured, they usually take out the part where the woman gets gropped. While i understeand why someone wouldnt whant to share something that contains sexuall harasment, i think its a little silly and very curious how its users self-censored themselvels with this meme, it its very unussual to find it like this in the wild.
In this version of the meme she’s actually from an alien culture where it’s considered rude not to kiss someone and squeeze their butt after accepting a medal. Their version of “bless you” after a sneeze.
I swear to god it’s in the show somewhere look it up.
Which one? The new ones?
Thermian argument best argument!
This graph is actually wrong, lemmy.ml doesn’t have open sign ups, it just appears to because the Lemmy software doesn’t accurately distinguish between open and closed registrations, it only distinguishes between open registrations and application-based registrations. If registrations are closed it’ll look just like they are open, but we’ll just give an error message when you try to sign up which is incredibly deceiving.
I filed an issue to fix this discrepancy on their GitHub.
Another issue with this graph is that it shows lemmy.world as American but it’s actually hosted in Finland.
We did it!
Wait that wasn’t the point.
People seem to only want their accounts on “general use” instances that are already pretty popular.
Which is… bizarre. There is no downside to having your account on a more niche instance (as long as it isn’t so niche that it gets turned off), and there are arguably disadvantages to having your account on a more popular instance.
People want to be where people are. My guess is we’ll end up with a bunch of super instances eventually.
People want to be where people are.
This logic only applies in centralized platforms. In the case of the Fediverse, people are everywhere and anywhere.
But here on lemmy itself we can see people gathering in just a few instances
Not everything happens for a logical reason. It’s human nature to get together in tribes, and the majority of people are okay with just following the pack.
I just hope that eventually more people figure out that there is no significant advantage in being in the largest instances, and that it can be actually harmful (too many resources, potential drama because too much power is given to the admins, etc)
One big thing that hasn’t changed from reddit is that lemmy instances are still based on an autocratic power structure. Whether or not your content gets seen or you get to see other content depends on the relationships between those leaders. That means choosing your leadership is of utmost importance, and I eventually settled on lemm.ee because it was the first instance I came across that both a) seemed like it had actual adults running the show, and b) was large enough for that leadership have already faced some challenges and have an established track record.
That’s the downside to a niche instance.
That’s the core of every problem that’s occurred to every massive human social structure we’ve ever created in history.
We create systems, the systems become powerful, a small group of autocratic people naturally gravitate towards wanting to lead, the system is taken over by this small group, the system is corrupted, the system fails, the system ends … then we start over again.
It keeps happening over and over again and the common denominator is human greed (either in the need to gain money and wealth … or in the need to just want to gain power over everyone)
The only systems that last are the ones where everyone has an equal stake and a shared power structure. But it’s a balancing game that constantly has to be monitored … because once we stop being vigilant, some greedy idiots will naturally start taking over.
A slight advantage to big servers is the increase in anonymity on the backend. Given the server admins can do what ever that want. An admin on small server would no doubt be looking into who and where their individual users are. Big severs are more likely to become more population based. Doesn’t really matter though I suppose.
Yeah no exact opposite for me: Big server means lots of user data making abuse of it more appealing and impactful. While an admin of a small instance having some fun digging through user internals would really do no harm (I don’t believe that’s a particularly typical hobby of small instance admins though xD ).
I wouldn’t say no doubt. Some certainly would do that, others could have more integrity.
A good 40% of users are spread out on servers with less then 5% of the overall user base, but that is still a good 60% in the top 5 instances, considering how laggy lemmy.ml and lemmy.world are, I am surprised anyone stays on them.
Smaller instances take longer to load content from bigger instances.
I have a kbin account and a lemmy account, but I find myself more active on lemmy because it’s faster to load new content.
hate to say it, but looks better too
It’s because instances are defederating from each other.
It’s not easy to see the list of all communities in an instance you don’t have an account. If I login and federate as user@example.com, I can see all the local communities inside example.com, but not others like lemmy.world. I don’t mean individual posts or an individual community, I mean list of all instance communities. I think this is one of high priority issues to be patched.
it’s not that bizarre; people want easy and people don’t seem to really understand how it works so they’d rather go where the most people are or the one that is “trending”.
The disadvantage of being on a small instance is that you could have an admin who is a fucking moron and ends up breaking stuff because they don’t know what they are doing.
Sauce: am admin. am fucking moron.
Aw man are we gonna have to move?
If they ever defederate from piracy communities, yeah, but I don’t think so, admin has a very anti defederate policy, so I see this scenario very hard to occur.
Oh, I don’t really care about piracy communities. I meant on the basis of it getting big.
Getting closer to being ddos’d every six seconds.
Woah, we grew fast!
lemm.ee has been consistently great for me, wonderful admin too.
Once lemm.ee can host larger images, I believe this will become the best instance on lemmy
one of the reasons it’s fast is because they limit image sizes which lower server load.
I chose ee over ml after what Mali started doing and that site could drop offline at any time.
The other .ml instances had a .ml free domain. Lemmy.ml paid for the domain so it’s in no danger of losing it.
Edit: further proof that it is a paid domain:
That’s great!
Noooooooooooo. Don’t get too big or that’ll just paint a target on our server for the DDOS attacks!
stop growing I don’t want to move instances again 🫠
I see only two ways for this to stop happening:
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Instance admins make a collective pact to close registrations if their instance reaches x% of the total active base, and only open again when this number goes down to x/2%. I think x=10 would be a good start.
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Instead of donations, instances start charging for access after a certain number. This is what my instance is doing: the first 250 active users are free, after that payment is required.
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They should probably add a % measure to that to show active users as a % of total users to give a more balanced look at active instances
Agreed
What is felt by users is the absolute number rather than the proportion.
Why not both?
Because when you open and later refresh Lemmy, the quantity of new posts you will see, which gives an idea of Lemmy’s activity, is proportional to the absolute number of active users, not the proportion of active users per instance.
By why not both, I meant why not display both the number of users and the proportion of the total userbase. This does not seem to be an answer to that question.
I thought you asked why wouldn’t both be felt by users. Otherwise, sure both can be displayed, the proportion gives an idea of the dynamic of a community.
Ah, I gotcha.
Oh goody. There’s a RickRussell_CA@lemm.ee and it’s not me. And it’s using one of my older profile pictures.
EDIT: 2023/8/29 update – I posted to the lemm.ee support community and the admins decided to disable the account. Well done!
That’s why we disabled the buy-sell-trade community on our niche instance. Nobody got scammed during the short time it was open, but if a username can be duplicated it makes scamming that much easier.
That sucks. Looks like they actually went out of their way to create that account a few days after yours.
The only bad part about the fediverse, imho, it’s hard to be the only one with your username. What makes it bad is a malicious user, that you may have pissed off somehow, start using your username in a smear campaign to hurt your reputation.
The key is to not attempt to foster a reputation in anonymous social media
True. I try to stay anonymous. But that doesn’t work on all social medias. Take Facebook for example, they show all that info in your profile allowing haters to hate
Facebook is not anonymous social media. It’s spyware to the max
This is true, yet no one wants to listen to reality
You are the only user with the username
Efwis@lemmy.zip. Nobody else can have that username.But, Efwls@lemmy.zip?
I don’t understand the question.
Capital I and lowercase l look alike.
It’s a play on that joke.
This is true, just like I have an ml account too. But I wouldn’t put past someone to create another account on another instance with efwis and start some shit because I hurt their feelings. So far that hasn’t been an issue but there is a first time. Especially since the username doesn’t show what instance your’re on on the feeds
lemm.ee best instance 100%
Isn’t that the one that censors the word “bitch”?
I’m gonna go with no, since I’m reading it perfectly currently.
Hmmm, maybe that’s .ml then.
Are you thinking of beehaw.org?
Nawh, I’m the instance had a “lem” prefix of some sort.
100%
I think the beauty of Fediverse is that the majority of people can find pretty amazing instances for themselves. I could say the same of mine.
100%
Where’s lemm.ee located physically?
This was asked in the lemm.ee discord and the answer given is below.
Ping times are low everywhere because the files we serve are hosted on globally distributed servers. So if you’re in North America, you will download the frontend code (and images etc) from a North American server. But the backend is actually hosted in Germany
“were using a rock bottom VPS out of germany with cloudlfare”
Do you know if personal data (like emails, IP addresses) is also distributed across the world? I mean, this is important from the privacy perspective. Different countries have different rules.
It’s just using cloudflare. So likely your private data is just temporarily stored on the CloudFlare node in your region and in Germany.
Frankly I have absolutely no idea, I would encourage asking if you’re concerned though.
Hmm hosted in Germany that’s not reassuring.
Try asking @sunaurus@lemm.ee who created it.
I contributed! After lemmy world banning the piracy community
That piracy community is a godsend. Thanks me harties from the bottom of me hearty.
Yup same
what
Che, that means drama incoming.
Che, that means drama incoming.
Beehaw hasn’t been in the news lately…
