• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    This is vile. These are non-elected positions and the people who hold them are doing a job the government asked them to do.

    You can complain about the positions but you do not attack people personally over it. Especially if your followers are as stupid and dangerous as musk’s.

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    So misogynist Musk went after a bunch of women for online harassment?

    I hope they sue him. I seriously do.

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      Incel King’s got priorities: start with all the women who said no.

      It’s sickening. I just read about the professor who had to leave her job and home after he sicced his deplorable fanbois on her all because she was critical of Tesla’s driver-assist.

      Cummings said she already knows of federal employees who “have dedicated their lives to civil service,” already quitting their jobs in anticipation of what’s to come.

      “He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working,” she said.

      CNN reached out to multiple experts and academics who specialize in cyber harassment, doxing and online abuse. But several declined to comment on the record for fear of themselves becoming Musk’s targets.

      Professionals too afraid to speak about their area of expertise. Public servants quitting because they know what’s coming for them. And Trump’s not even started his second run yet.

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    Screw them and hold on to your job for as long and as hard as you can.

    Sure one person fighting is nothing to a billionaire … but a few thousand employees taking the government to court for this stupidity will definitely affect the billionaire.

    Authoritarianism wins as soon as we all just give up and allow them to take control.

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      a few thousand employees taking the government to court

      Laws don’t apply to God King Trump, why would they apply to anyone in his administration?

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        It very much depends. In many states, if your employer significantly changes the terms of your employment, you will get approved.

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          The reality of living in this country is a factor. Not everyone is in a position financially to quit their job and probably blacklisted from their industry.

          We do not have an adequate social safety net in this country. To be able to make principled stands without having to worry about your future prospects, you’d have to be independently wealthy, like the fuckers doing this shit. And that’s entirely by design with the policies they’ve made happen over the last 60+ years. Over a quarter of this country lives paycheck to paycheck now, that will include a lot of federal employees.

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              Ah, so a couple questions to see if you’re just a fucking idiot that thinks idealism can be reality, or if you’re even relevant to the conversation.

              1. Are you American or otherwise working in the United States currently?
              2. If so, how long would you be able to survive if you were to be fired or quit and not be able to work in your same industry? Meaning you would be starting off in an entry level role probably in unskilled labor, because most government workers aren’t in charge, they’re working desk jobs to make things function or doing some sort of inspection work, neither of which usually need college educations.
              3. If you’re not American, your opinion on this honestly means very little here since you do not have experience with working in the US.
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                If you’re not American, your opinion on this honestly means very little here since you do not have experience with working in the US

                Former J1+H1 counterexample right here.

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                  I shortened the last sentence. The 1st point literally covers that type of scenario.

                  But that’s cool. Taking things out of context on purpose to manufacture a point is literally what the internet does best.

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                  Do you have a family? Kids? Anyone you are responsible for? Would you be so flippant about making them homeless?

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                  These are people choosing their home over their principles.

                  Okay you’re one of those people. This conversation is pointless. Have a good day.

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          So you only stand for something if you get unemployment?

          WTF Indeed, yes it’s more impressive to stand for something if you are willing to sacrifice your whole life, be willing to live on the streets etc…

          Fact is there’s not that many people that can do that. There’s no safety nets in this country, losing your job isn’t just the possibility of having to move to a smaller house, it’s the possibility of begging friends and family to stay with them, as the bottom rung of employment isn’t even enough to afford a 1 bedroom apartment, and that’s of course assuming only you are the one to pay that price, IE wife, kids who need college etc…

          Godwin time here, as much as everyone wants to say they’d be the person who hid jews in their attic in ww2, reality is while you can applaud those who did, you can’t really look down on those who didn’t. The risks of completely ruining not just your own life, but the lives of those who you care the most about, to save complete strangers, is not a decision that is ever a given for anyone to make.

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          What even is your point here? My reading: “Ooh look how tough you are, see how you feel when you lose your job!”

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      Over half of federal workers are unionized so if Elmo fucks around too much, he just may find out. Many government workers are getting below market rates in exchange for good benefits, security and some sense of helping the commonwealth. They did not sign up for dealing with this chucklefuck. Replacing a bunch of sysadmins, accountants, lawyers and scientists at government pay levels would be challenging.

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        Thats the trick… They don’t intend to replace them. This is a thinly disguised austerity measure, intended to cripple agencies to later “show” their ineffectiveness.

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      Court costs and being out of work are both fun. But, as it turns out, personal justice is way less important than the food/clothing/shelter triumvirate the money can fund instead of legal fights.

      And what’s why musk will win.

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        No one understands this part. We had the largest demonstrations of my 30 years of life during the pandemic of all things…why? Because everyone was getting government stipends to stay home from work and people had time to fight for what’s right instead of putting food on the table and keeping a roof over their heads.

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    Didn’t this guy ban the @elonjet account for doing a lesser version of this?

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      Yeah I think that’s the frustrating part of this. Either allow elonjet back or get banned for doing this. But having it both ways shows how shit a person Elon Musk is.

      If anyone asks, to me, it’s THIS aspect of it that’s the big problem. Musk is literally doing the thing that he hated about elonjet.

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        He’s always been a hypocrite and entirely untrustworthy. If you believe he is doing ANYTHING in good faith, it’s kind of on you at this point. If people stopped interacting with these fucking musk articles we wouldnt see them every 2 seconds.

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      We destroyed public education half a century ago to cut the oligarchs taxes.

      Half of our public still thinks giving the oligarchs the remaining crumbs they can no longer make corporate landlord rent with will somehow be urinated back on them as prosperity.

      Our public can’t learn.

      The ideal laborers. You can exploit them until they’re bruised and bleeding, then then just point at the powerless, starving, dying homeless person on the sidewalk and say they did it and you should hate them for it. Problem solved.

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    This from the guy who smoked weed on the Joe Rogan p;dcast, talked about how he does ketamine at parties, and has been talking to Pootles for the last year, all while having a security clearance. Yeah

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    DOGE isn’t an actual department with any power, as it wasn’t created by an act of Congress. I guess Elon’s power will just be telling Trump who to fire?

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      Im hoping when the time comes to actually create the department someone will inform Trump that’s not really something he can do, and Trump will just shrug and forget about it, while Musk starts crying in the corner.

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      Directing angry mobs at people in these positions could be an effective way of vacating them whether it’s an “official” department or not.