In a post from a few days ago, I noticed that someone mentioned that they were afraid to post about their dislike of the Tudor BB58 for fear of downvoting. You know what? The BB is a boring watch that’s not worth the money, and Tudor wouldn’t be half as popular as it is without the connection to Rolex. If Rolexes were as attainable as they were in past years, cut that by a factor of 10. Would you really buy a BB if the reality were that you could just save a little bit more and get a Rolex Submariner? That’s my hot take. What’s yours?
Panerai should be commended for never faltering or compromising on their wild fucking design language.
Agree and disagree. I think it’s admirable that Panerai has kept to it’s iconic design. But I think they could have done that while releasing additional lines and options.
Keep the original Panerai line as it is as the main line, and release a additional line for GADA sports watch, chronograph, dress watch, and etc. They don’t need to do all of that, but they should at least have more than one look to the brand in general. Right now Panerai is a very stuck one trick pony.(though admittedly it’s a cool trick)
I’m a fan of the look but not their internals. After seeing how bland the movement looks, I’ve been turned off
There’s no such thing as “value for money” in the luxury watch space. All luxury watches are overpriced - that is the whole point of “luxury” - duh. Speaking along the same lines, I saw a reviewer try to justify the price difference between two dive watches because one was METAS certified whilst the other was only COSC certified - literally for 99.999% of people this won’t make a difference. Most of these luxury watch goobers take their watches off to wash their hands.
Mmm plenty of people work near large magnets and the metas cert guarantees protection from 15000 gauss, or an MRI. And the fact that each cased up watch gets in water resistance tested is a plus.
I mean… sure but if that’s your use case due to work then you’re probably better served by a digital Casio than a luxury dive watch. I could time my lifts at the gym with the bezel on my SMP but I still use an Apple Watch for that because it’s a better fit for the job.
Just because most people won’t know the difference doesn’t mean that there isn’t a justification in the price difference. You could say that about laymen in anything. METAS certification has more testing and I’m assuming it costs more.
Hey, I’m a nurse and I need a watch that can handle a good wash 50 times a day.
two dive watches because one was METAS certified whilst the other was only COSC certified - literally for 99.999% of people this won’t make a difference.
Exactly, and for the 0.0001% of people for whom it actually does matter, they’d be better off getting a G shock or something because it’ll be more durable, keep better time, more readable in the dark, longer lasting battery, etc. No point in talking about practicality for something that’s inherently impractical.
The anti-magnetism part of the METAS testing is particularly silly, completely pointless and just for marketing.
You say that now, but when I’m exactly 1.5 seconds late to the big meeting and you’re 3.75 seconds late, you’ll wish your watch had this kind of accuracy.
smirks in Casio F91w
laughs in f91
I think you’re conflating “relative value” with “absolute value.” Sure, a $5k mechanical watch can’t compete with a cheap quartz if the metric is timekeeping. But if you’re comparing multiple different luxury watches for finishing, accuracy, and other specs, there’s bound to be models that are offering more features for less money.
Yeah people don’t understand that the price of a luxury good can be a feature. If you could buy a Patek for $100 no one would care about it. People crave the exclusivity… marketing at its finest lol
This is so wrong. When I’m at my weekend home in the Mariana Trench (seasonal, of course) I frequently rely on my watch. How else would I gauge the depths, time, and pressure? With much more modern, precise, computerized equipment in the submersible? Pshaw.
For real. Certification flies out the window once your new watch gets banged around, even slightly.
Smaller watches look good on men and the idea that a watch needs to be the right size is ridiculous. When people ask “is this watch to small?” my answer will always be no. 36mm and 34mm watches look great too, especially dressier options.
Stop worrying, if you love the watch and dial wear it.
Agreed. Saw someone wearing an IWC Portugieser recently and the large case just made what should be a nice looking dress watch look tacky.
Tissot PRX hater 🙋♂️
This.
Ugly ugly watch.
So brave considering there are many comments here that share your same sentiment.
I was a hater, and I even didn’t like in the store on wrist at first. BUT I gave it a second chance on wrist months later, and it kind of won me over. I still had my reservation, but I decided to give it try with plans to sell it once honeymoon period was over. A year and half later, I hate that I love it and it’s part of my permanent collection now.
I think the big hurdle was to see past the integrated watch hype and the idea that PRX is a budget option for that category. Once I started seeing the watch as its own thing without the hype baggage I started to like it much more. It’s an automatic sports watch that wears thinner than it should, catches light beautifully, and has the specs to handle daily wear.
Tissot prx is so unbelievably UGLY
I’ve been dying to say this lmao
I like it. Sorry
Bro I don’t understand why people like the PRX 😭
The design is just revolting to me. I get that it’s got good quality and a good movement and such, but most integrated steel sports watches just look terrible to me.
I have one and I love BUT, the lume is pathetic. Might as well NOT if it’s gonna be like that
Broooo I know right. I thought my watch was defective until I learned the lume is just crap.
The movement isn’t good. It’s a throwaway with plastic escapement (that does break) and dear god is it ugly. I’ve never liked the look of the 2824, and the C07.111 just makes it worse. It’s accurate when it’s new I guess?
Amen
I’m the clubs vice president
My unpopular take: people that can’t afford luxury watches shouldn’t go voicing their unpopular opinion about them.
I applaud you for a genuinely unpopular take. I disagree, but will upvote you just to be contrary.
Do you apply the same logic to other domains? For instance, that people who can’t become politicians should not voice their opinions about politicians, or that people people who has not been to prison should not voice their opinions about crimes, etc.
No, because crime and politics is part of the societal domain.
But you don’t know all the ins and outs of the job. I don’t hold this view but it is analogous to what you originally said.
Watches are part of fashion, anyone into fashion is part of that domain.
The Air King 126900 is pretty fkn hot
I too love the comic sans font
I just can’t unsee that it’s just an Explorer I with massive minute numerals that mismatch the hour numerals from the Explorer. You do you.
Everything that youtube reviewers crack on aren’t that important. If every watch had a sapphire crystal, an adjustable clasp, 200m WR with a screw down crown, was “value for money” and had good lume… well, we’d all be wearing a dive watch from a microbrand.
I like the variety of watches out there.
This description is way to accurate describing the cheap (albeit quality) Chinese homage dive watches. My Heimdallr Sharky feels attacked
Same, though for me personally, the absolute minimum dealbreaker for any watch (excluding something like a G-Shock) is that it needs a sapphire crystal. I am tough on my watches, and a non-sapphire will get scratched up (or worse) very quickly.
Acrylic is my favourite bar none. I live domed acrylic. I wish I could get a river made by Tudor, or Omega or someone with acrylic.
Not interested in Longines, Oris, etc
Same. For some reason, I always found the metal door jamb (around the magnetic lock) at ATM booths with my watch.
Oh Hardlex, I hardly knew ya.
I guess now its just an indicator of quality for me if they use sapphire - as it isn’t expensive. It’s just not cheap like mineral.
Bought a great looking Dufa meca-quartz, but returned it as soon as I discovered the domed crystal wasn’t sapphire. That’s just begging for trouble.
Everyone on this sub should be issued an orient Kamasu to show them they don’t have to be an obsessed weirdo spending five figures on a watch to get all the “premium” features
And those old dive watches from the 60’s? Only rated for 5atm. So, on a normal day, went I’m not on call for Seal Team 6, I think I’m be fine with any watch that is 5atm.
In fact there is huge controversy about needing anything more and swimming with one is absolutely fine.
I love dive watches, but it is quickly becoming apparent that they serve little purpose now.
Other controversial opinion: Watches are too damn thick and big. It’s like the trend with car emblems. Refinement is why I got into this game.
Sapphire crystal, 200m WR are not actually important. But adjustable clasp is and it should be on any metal bracelet.
This. I recntly had this realization when looking into the new Hamilton Boulton “Indy” version. Imo it’s just a great-looking watch and a good price; every single review talked about how disappointing it having a snap-on back case was…What?
I don’t like color-matched date wheels. They’re always difficult to read, and it’s a cop-out toward placating fussy enthusiasts. I like a date with a white wheel that’s easy to read and framed prominently. It’s a useful feature; don’t try and hide it.
Miniature seconds wheel looks tacky to me. I know Nomos gets a lot of love, but personally I am not a fan at all. Having a sweeping or ticking seconds hand it quintessential watch aesthetic to me. It’s the visual heartbeat of the watch. I love dial complications like date, moon phase, day, etc, but they should be visually secondary to the main watch face. By having the a small seconds hand being the only active thing on the watch face, it distracts from the rest of the watch. A full seconds hand draws the eye over the whole watch instead.
Finally a ln actually hot take I disagree with
To me, the seconds subdial IS the complication. I have an Omega AT small hands, and I feel like it does a great job of making the dial look more sleek.
Big steel sports watches are the sneakers/street wear of the watch world. They are tacky as hell and their popularity is driven largely by hype.
And dive watches
The Powermatic 80 family of movements are unfairly maligned, and horribly underrated.
Hamilton and all field watches are dork watches
Longines is not that great and only pushed on Reddit for some unknown reason
I agree Longines is dreadful
Lmao, “dork watch” is the perfect characterization for field watches.
I’m imagining them all posting on /r/edc and delicately staging their Hamilton khaki next to their knife, paracord keychain and waterproof “Field Notes” notebook
It does lmao! Like, “What? You need all those numbers and fat hands just to tell the time? Time to take off the training wheels there, sport!”
I don’t have a Hamilton and really don’t want one, but I’m interested in what the definition of a “dork watch” is. Would you mind elaborating?
I wouldn’t say necessarily pushed on Reddit. Lots of watch YouTubers big and small love Longines, and theres a reason for It.
I agree, and I own a Longines. But I don’t get all the fangirling over the same 3 boring models.
I’ll give you credit for really giving a hot take.
Why do you personally dislike Longines though? Swiss brand, long heritage, and tasteful design language (gives Cartier/JLC design notes imo)
Never be afraid of downvoting. If you say what you think nobody can take that away from you.
Every passing day I respect Jody/Just One More Watch less because of how much bootlicking he does for the Aliexpress brands. I don’t necessarily hate brands like San Martin and Pagani Design on their own, but how much he insinuates that you’d be better off with Ali brands’ (admittedly very well made and affordable) copies over the genuine article doesn’t sit right with me for some reason. While Jody is right from a completely logical and financial perspective, I don’t think he realizes that collecting watches is kinda illogical in of itself. People who can afford them WANT expensive watches because it makes them feel special and cool, and getting something that merely apes the look of a desirable watch when they could afford the real thing simply doesn’t do it for a lot of people.
For example, he straight up says in his most recent 11/11 video that you’d be better off with an Aliexpress copy of a Doxa than an actual Sub 300 because he couldn’t discern how the real thing would be any better. Given Doxa’s reputation for making capable, well-crafted diver’s watches that were able to stand up to the rigors of military operations, I sincerely doubt this. I also find it very hard to believe his claim that San Martin will become a legitimate threat to other affordable brands’ sales, especially when 1. San Martin’s sales are practically dwarfed by how many mall watches Seiko and Citizen sell, and 2. Their whole shtick and success is inherently contingent on either copying other people’s homework, or otherwise producing original designs that range from generic to gaudy.
I respect Jody and like his content, and I don’t mind his and many other people’s affection for the Ali brands, but I have a hard time believing that some tried and true watch brands are shitting their panties because some niche hobbyists are buying homages of their watches.
That’s a good hot take, but one I completely disagree with.
Most “watch YouTubers” completely ignore the existence of Chinese brands, even when they produce original designs. Jody, and a few others that are doing the same thing, shine a light on an area that is totally ignored and unknown by the broader market. He provides product reviews for watches that you can’t see in person and are the most attainable for people. Most people can’t afford or don’t want to pay more than an AliExpress price for a watch, especially if you think globally. Jody is providing a valuable service.
Also, Doxa is basically a fake Swiss company that makes Chinese watches. The AliExpress versions are pretty much the same thing. Doxa just owns the IP for the designs and brand, which they bought after the original company went belly up. It doesn’t have anything to do with the original Doxa. There are many companies like it.
Just a couple of quick things (not downvoting or trying to start anything).
- Jody’s channel focuses on watches that are $500 or under (even he’s said this before). Does he occasionally show or review watches that are more than $500? Yes. Does he own watches more than $500? Yes. But, the vast majority of affordable watches that’ll allow him to continue making enough videos to be a professional YouTuber are going to be Chinese… and they are very easily available on AliExpress.
- Second point and maybe a hit take, his first watch from his own watch brand is horrible IMHO. He feels divers are the end all, be all of versatile watches. They simply aren’t (again, IMHO). I honestly think a GADA watch would have been a better idea for his first watch.
It is true that most of Jody’s reviews are on sub-$500 watches, which is exactly where the Aliexpress brands reign supreme. My issue with Jody is not merely him reviewing them; it’s more a conflict of interest. Coming from a journalism background, I find it interesting that Jody is an Aliexpress affiliate that explicitly makes money off people buying watches via the links in his videos’ descriptions, while simultaneously showering praise upon the Aliexpress brands. While I’ve heard mostly good things about the popular Ali brands, I feel like Jody’s reviews in particular are indicative of him drinking the Kool Aid. It makes sense for him to be as positive as possible about Aliexpress watches in particular, because the more viewers he convinces to buy San Martins, the bigger the commission he gets. While Jody’s reviews are usually nuanced and well-considered, I can’t help but put two and two together when he says he’s an Aliexpress affiliate and that a Seestern is objectively better than a Doxa in the same video.
I like Jody but I’m very very intrigued to see where his channel goes after launching his own watch brand.
I think there is a distinct difference to content creators who have insight into what it takes to build a watch, both micro and mainstream than those who don’t.
The Omega Seamaster looks like when Homer Simpson designs the car. Way too much going on.
“It has wavy lines on the face. Oooh and big sword hands. And a massive ugly helium valve.”
The bracelet is so damn ugly
Wow, this is a real hot take
And one I could articulate so concisely and accurately. Well done
HOLY FUCK YES.
Awhile back, I edited one to look better… at least to me lmao. Sorry for the crumby iPhone app editing.
It looks so good, and the new arrow hands would tie the Seamaster family(Seamaster Pro, Aqua Terra, Seamaster heritage, and Planet Ocean) together. It would be the shared trait that can be seen across the board.
The plain dial ceramic ones were the best variation. 😊
I was gonna ask which one as they have a rather large Seamaster line:
- Aqua Terra
- Diver 300M
- Planet Ocean
- Heritage Models
With the mention of wave dial and helium valve, I am assuming this post is referring to Diver 300M
Yep was referring to the 300M.
I really want to like the AT because i was looking for a GADA watch, but IMO the hands kill it. I could never really wear it with a suit, which is what I wear Monday-Friday.
I look at the old school Omega’s, like the old Seamaster DeVilles, and honestly to me that is so much more classy I just wish they still had that aesthetic.
If James Bond really existed he’d wear a classier watch like that, not a really gawdy chunk of steel thing.
Interesting I thought AT is fine with a suit
My fave AT’s are the first generation, and I would be fine wearing one of those with a suit
I hate the bezel grip on Seamasters
