Ok, idea, The rest of the world demands access to 5 years of US citizens social media to enter their countries. Deny Nazi/Fash/Maga from leaving the US.
Most maga can’t afford to leave the country much less their own state.
while true, there are a boat load of wealthy republicans that would NOT pass a social media check
Indubitably.
I finally got to use that word, thank you good sir.
Nah fuck that. The non-Nazis can come over, and we’ll have a barbie 🇺🇸🇦🇺🦐🍻
A lot of Americans on the right famiously doesnt own a passport and doesn’t leave the country. You are more or less playing into their hand…
I’m more worried about the politicians :)
A lot of Americans on the right famiously doesnt own a passport and doesn’t leave the country.
But why would you leave the Greatest Country on Earth™?
Good idea. Let’s just do what the fascists are doing. That’ll show them!
I mean, we’ve tried not reciprocating.
They literally don’t get anything until it’s happening to them, and the US left NEVER makees it happen to them.
For the rest of the world it’s a smart idea, who would want self proclaimed domestic terrorists into their country?
I feel deeply sorry for the poor EU agent who has to sift through the depravity that likely exists on your average MAGA twat’s phone. You hear about those police staff members who have to view all the CSAM to investigate it and how it traumatises them, this would be the next tier down
People, PLEASE stop coming to America. The government doesn’t want you here. Also, it’s not safe at all.
If the earning reports of hotel REITs are anything to go by that is exactly what’s happening.
Make Murica Great Again or something…
Read between the lines… 100 billion dollar bailout coming to aid the tourism businesses affected by the new rules…
His hotels…
Just like the farmer bailout due to the losses incurred from the tariffs
To be fair, the farmer bailout is a drop in the bucket of what they’re down over lost sales to China and higher fertilizer prices. Like, have the day you voted for and all that, but 12B is 1% of this years military budget.
Murica, home of hatred and fear. and home of the spoiled. and the greedy. and the devious. and the self endulged. and the (fill in your favourite bad quality here, it 'll fit)
Trying to isolate the country from what used to be our allies, then take away all our rights and turn this degrading shithole into North Korea where the citizens are law bound to kiss their “leaders” ass and pretend it doesn’t fucking stink.
krasnov is adhering to PUTINS wishes.
Whether or not the states are being puppeted by Russia holding cards in the form of blackmail, this is exactly the kind of thing they would do to weaken the states
its is the foundation of geopolitics that russia uses.
The only way a fascist wins is with isolationism. DON’T let Trump who only represents 1 in 4 people keep you away. These clowns from Trump all the way down to ICE will all be either spending lengthy jail sentences or fodder for fusillade.
Do not visit the US
literally, I let my VISA expire and it was hard because I live on the frontier so I’ll miss out on a lot of things but it is not worth it
last time I needed to cross the border I was detained for an extra hour (not counting the queue) just because I didn’t cross during the pandemic
fuck the US, fuck fascism
I still remember a trip I took with my parents to Vancouver and Seattle. We are from Brazil.
The difference was night and day, especially the infrastructure, landscape, and the appearance of the people who worked there. Seattle felt much more somber and gray.
The only ones who seemed overtly happy were the waitresses, but since these jobs in the U.S. rely heavily on tips, it felt more like forced role-play to get extra money compared to the more down-to-earth Canadian customer service.
It’s amazing how much the US doesn’t want you to go there, even if it’s just to visit.
Despite all the mediocrity, there are some things to see there, but if that’s the authorities’ attitude (and this here is not the first example of it), yeah, I think I’ll skip.
they really don’t seem to realize there’s an entire world of places out there to see…
It’s also to keep people in.
If this shit passes, the EU should apply the same rule and when we find a fucking MAGAt, stamp “Entry Denied and Fuck Off!”
nah, that’s what that negativity wants. making that oil slick bigger.
Shouldn’t be hard for anyone from Europe. The EU already wants to monitor all the social media anyway. Plus age restrictions. The Aussie’s aren’t far behind either. And they have age restrictions now.
As a Canadian, I won’t be travelling to the Republic of Gilead anytime soon. That country is becoming worse by the minute.
And since Americans think I’m Latino (I’m not), I don’t want to be shipped to El Salvador.
shipped to El Salvador.
I’m white as hell, but with the comments I make on the orange clown I’ll be shot into orbit in nothing more than a speedo (only because nudity is for the us a no ! no !! no !!! no !!! no !!! no way)
I’m thinking of visiting Montreal for beer. Crossing North from Vermont… y’all gonna kick my ass before I can spend that glorious USD $$ ?
You seem to confuse Canadians for Americans.
As a fellow American, we really don’t need any help looking bad at the moment, so you can stop now.
Uhhhh, it’s more than their social media.
The new proposal would make it “mandatory” for ESTA applicants to provide US authorities with access to five years of their social media activity on platforms such as Instagram, TikTok and X.
Visitors will also be required to provide information on what US authorities dub “high-value data fields,” meaning all of their phone numbers over the past five years and all of their e-mail addresses over the past 10. Moreover, they will be forced to provide personal details on family members as well as provide their own biometric data.
The proposal was published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, meaning that it will be open for public comment for 60 days, at which point it will become law unless challenged in court.
Checks SimpleLogin account… 230 email aliases to date… gg, I might need a few more pages to note all of those.
Plus, how tf are they going to know if you’re telling them about everything? This will just make people not visit.
For real, there really is no way for them to know for sure.
Also, I just remembered Apple has throwaway emails built in now, nobody will think to list those. So do you just go to jail straight away if you miss listing one of those, because you lied on a federal form?
So do you just go to jail straight away if you miss listing one of those, because you lied on a federal form?
Unfortunately, that probably depends on what color you are. They have taken a few whities, but that was probably just for show.
Our country isn’t really safe to visit right now, please come back if/when we’re better. Most Americans are sorry about this.
Really hope for a positive outcome. I would love to go visit my happy place on the Oregon coast again some day!
Nah I don’t believe so, the vast majority of the people doesn’t really care about privacy at all and they will gladly provide all the “required” information just to enter in the country. I guess they already know a lot of information about you (google account, biometric data in phones, GPS location, frecuent used apps…) and they just want you to provide even more information and tag you as an danger if you don’t answer exactly what they know about you.
230 email aliases to date
That looks suspicious and a lot of work, let’s just send you to and ICE detention facility until we decide what to do with you.
Can’t argue with that logic. I’ll report to my nearest border crossing if/when this passes to make things easier for everyone.
The Fourth Reich thanks you for your understanding!
The EU is already using that. Pick some other Reich that is still free.
What if you’re not a 15-year-old girl and therefore don’t have TikTok and Instagram are they going to arrest you? What a truly stupid country.
Emails? Wtf?
I was wondering why this ‘five years’ thing popped up now, because I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of it long ago.
The US was known for ages to be very shady at the borders, like circa fifteen years ago when they detained a security researcher who was travelling to a conference to tell about yet another of NSA’s shenanigans: they held him for hours, searched through his devices, and in the end denied entry.
I think that’s objectively worse than North Korea, they only check what you have with you as far as I’m aware
This is a shame honestly. I’ve just remembered about Lucas’ narrative art museum.
Been there twice, it was interesting and already shocking in 2008.
You US Americans should visit Europe or live there for a while. Then you can decide to come back or stay but you’ll have at least a reference point in your brain that things can be different and maybe that the US isn’t the greatest country in the world in all fields.
The US is a third-world country that failed upwards
My favourite description: “US is 50 third world countries in a trench coat”.
…wearing a gucci belt
… bought on credit
… after paying off the initial credit by taking a new loan
The EU is fast-tracking the Fourth Reich, so visit it while there’s still time.
I dunno, and this sanity check is coming from someone who’s visited over a dozen times and loves it there… EU is not all fun and games, they are going to enforce chat control, apparently bowing to pressure on GDPR, has enforced facial recognition to enter, and right wing parties are growing in multiple countries including the big economic houses: Germany, France, UK. We’re all over here looking at you folks to show us the way and if you blink in your resolve, you’re going to end up where we are.
On a positive note, Drumpf’s policies are hitting a wall of awareness, resistance and resolve. Our recent elections are giving some hope. His pedophile protecting tight grip is loosening it’s hold as his desperately unpopular and catastrophic policies are forcing “masks off” upping of their rhetoric and abusive policies. This shows their real racist nazi agenda to everyone and it’s only dropping their approval. We’re worried they will cook the books next November, but the hope is we can reign in the insanity and undo the damage in the coming decade. It’s going to take that long and we will need to start with our dear friends in Canada).
Right-wing is code for not being part of the ruling party block.
I’ll continue to equate the right wing with far right extremism until they give me evidence to conclude otherwise. You can call that a code for “out of power” if that’s your way of thinking, but it’s not mine and I certainly didn’t use it that way. I believe it’s the reality of the ratcheting overton window for 50 years.
I would agree that far right extremism qualifies as right wing. Trouble is, in Germany the AfD has identical positions as CDU/CSU as of decade or two ago, and both would be considered to be left wing in the US political context. A very left party like BSW was attempted to be smeared to be right wing.
Such labels assigned by the mainstream media have become meaningless, so I would encourage you to look at party programs and their voting patterns in parliaments to gauge where they really stand. I will avoid mentioning the general regression to pre-party times to avoid further confusion.
The EU is now talking about doing what the US was already doing more than a decade ago when Snowden Revelations came out.
And don’t get me started on things like the relative ratios of “death by police” and percentage of people in prision (to mention just the things related to the use of force in policing) between America and Europe.
The EU is at least a decade behind the US in creeping autoritarianism and a lot of that shit has been imported from the US (including the new style far right, which amongst other things was set-up with money from American billionaires which Steve Bannon brought to Europe years ago very openly to “create far right parties” and is ideologically fed by American money using social media which for example paid Cambridge Analitica to use Facebook to fuel Brexit).
In this turn of the Wheel of History, the equivalent of Nazism is spreading out from America.
I agree with you. I’m not saying the EU isn’t doing better on substantially every level like education, social services, policing, well being, worker rights, etc. I’m saying the EU is at risk and it’s it goes beyond just the US and global tech corpratism to authoritarian & oligaritarian influence of (soft and hard) compaigns to shift the EU far right. I am saying I hope the EU can hold on to what they have and push back further!
On a side note, the Nazi’s borrowed a lot of their eugenics from the US and our deeply ingrained racism, so I’m not 100% sure this is new
Personally I’ve been boycotting travel to the US or even just with a transfer in the US since the PATRIOT act.
Already over a decade ago I very purposefully chose Canada (highly recommended, by the way) for a month vacationing in North America rather than the US.
The writting has been on the wall for this shit ever since they allowed the TSA to start confiscating traveller’s mobile phones and computers way back in Bush’s day - the main difference with the current administration compared to the previous ones is that they’re open about what they’re looking for.
and maybe that the US isn’t the greatest country in the world in all fields.
I think that’s why they want our “high value data fields”… ☺️
Is this European exceptionalism?
No, I guess Canada and possibly many other countries are similar but I didn’t experience them yet.
yeah, because tourism is doing so well now, we need more reasons to fuck over the industry
you know its bad when they dont report how tourism is doing in places like florida, texas. its 1-2 punch , anti-immigration policies has probably affected them severely, and the lack of tourism dollars to those welfare states.
No idea about Texas. Other than SXSW, I’m not aware of their tourism.
But for FL, Disney didn’t bend the knee hard enough. That’s a feature.
Don’t come here is the message they’re sending. The US is closed for business.
