Why? Most democratic officials are closeted republicans.
Right. How else is Jeffries and Chuck going to afford their beach front property in Gaza if they don’t receive million from the fossil fuel lobby.
they just ask aipac for more dollars, which is basically us tax money.
Don’t know about that part. It’s just rooting for a team to stand up literally and it ain’t happening as much, preventing unnecessary spending, marginalizing communities, is been the rapport for either parties. Like this is a hot take but all party motto/slogan is tip toeing too much. Some real change or something needs to happen to garter my favor.
Do you think chuck cares about Palestinian people. Dude spear headed so many weapon sales to Isreal. He wants every Palestinian dead. Jeffries is doing it for the money.
no why would he, he made it clear he only supports israel above all else.
This is why I love this community, you learn so much more about politicians who favor other countries constituents vs their own or their own fictitious family that they wrote 20+ years to connect to locals…
from what ive heard about mr israel-schumer, this is only job ever, after college someone gave him a way to work his way into politics.
yeah the Dems are just as bad look look look
vote Jill Stein the not russian shill
keeep trump in power! destroy the US at all costs
no one is saying this
This isn’t really true, though some are. It’s just that both Democrats and Republicans are almost all owned by the owner class, so support any corporate protections. That isn’t anything that Republicans own. It’s both parties.
and funded by big oil, gillibrand is the most blatant one, she even received an "award from them.
And their voters are terrified of appearing the least bit threatening
If they remove our legal recourse, do they think we’ll just shrug and be like “guess we have no options”?
That seems to be exactly what Americans are doing right now about everything. So yeah.
You’re right. No one is throwing molotovs at techbro houses or burning down warehouses or anything.
Well, lone dudes doing dumb things won’t do anything. People need to organize.
Like No Kings?
They can MAYBE manage another parade with live music and tailgate parties in a month or two if the weather is nice and they get the proper permits.
That’s a start
And they need to organize BEFORE global surveillance is enforced under the guise of “age verification”
Not nearly enough.
Makes it easy to call us all “terrorists” before they drug us and send us to “wellness farms”
That’s exactly why you all need to stop acting like sheeple and start a revolution.
I mean you’re preaching to the choir but the seething mass of liberals don’t even know what liberal means
How dare you suggest that those piece of shit cowards aren’t doing enough? They’ll be here soon to set you straight!
yes, americans are weak and subservient.
This is literally what you’ve done in the face of fascism creep for three decades.
“Forever” is not possible, a future Congress can just repeal the law.
But what if they add a “No Takesy Backsey” clause?
They takesy backsey the clause first
I’ll be honest, I don’t really care. None of these laws mean anything if the government is completely rebuilt from the ground up. Every single thing this admin does will be worth so much burned toilet paper. All the grifts ill gotten gains will be liquidated and confiscated by whoever the fuck hangs them all in the streets, as is most likely to happen. All the bills that say shit like “no regulations on AI evar!! Lol” or “Donald Trumps name on everything, including mt Kilimanjaro for some reason” will be meaningless.
The only way this will happen is through violence, and even then it’s not a guarantee.
- conservative South loss against the north in the civil war and there were no reparations or punishment.
- Nixon came the closest to being impeached and charges were dropped as soon as he resigned, despite the fact that the votes were there. We was then fucking pardoned because “we need to move on.”
- fucking TRUMP will “learn his lesson” for forcing Ukraine to provide opposition research on Biden in exchange for security.
- TRUMP again when he literally caused people to storm the capitol.
- when Biden was in office, house refused to even push more impeachment talks because “he’s not president anymore” and then got Pikachu faced when he ran again.
- when Trump finally was found guilty in New York, the judge fucking gave him no jail time.
Democrats refuse to hold Republicans accountable and we need to start acting like they are part of the problem.
democrats are just potty trained republicans, it seems to me. as an outsider america seems to have just one party that is divided.
This is a correct observation, from an American.
Watching all blue states fail in lock step to substantially improve the lives of the people that live in them has me thinking you are on to something.
American here. Can confirm. It’s not left vs right, it really is just two different colors.
You have to remember that at the time of the civil war the US was a largely agrarian and geopolitically irrelevant backwater. It was terrified that the civil war would be the beginning of the end. So the lack of reparations was partly due to the fact that the south was (and still largely is) destitute, and partly because the north wanted a genuine reunification with minimal bad blood. Not saying it was the right choice. But it was based in logic.
Hopefully we have all learned the lesson of tolerating bigots and thieves.
Your first sentence is about the gist of it. No way out of it now.
I’ll be honest, I don’t really care.
This is how they win, you are doing precisely what they want.
You misunderstand. We either win everything or nothing. If we win, nothing they did with the laws will be permanent because there will not be this set of laws anyways. I abjectly refuse to participate if we do not redo the entire system.
Again, that’s what they hope for. You aren’t being noble, you are just noping out when it gets hard.
It’s more important than ever now, no matter what, make everything they try to do difficult.
They’re not saying “I don’t care because nothing matters”. They’re saying “I don’t care because everything they do will be meaningless when we get them the fuck out of there”.
Right, and what I’m saying is that is the mentality the power structure is trying to make us all feel.
You vote every time, you show up every time. I’m not saying vote for anyone specifically, but don’t give up your power. It is not meaningless to fight these fuckers, and just waiting it out is the only guaranteed way they will win.
No no you got it backwards. What THEY do is meaningless because we we will make it meaningless by doing exactly what you’re saying.
“make everything they do difficult”
I am …?
If we defeat them and do nothing about the system that did this, I am fucking off forever.
Oh, agreed. But that means we have to fight harder when the system is working against us. To defeat them, we have to keep playing the game.
We either win everything or nothing.
The first is impossible without committing atrocities, and the second is a worst case.
I abjectly refuse to participate if we do not redo the entire system.
Abject indeed. You’ve bought the “stay home and do nothing” propaganda, which is just what they want you do do.
What the fuck are you talking about?
IF WE GET OFF THE COUCH AND MURDER THE FASCISTS AND FIX EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IT WOULD ALSO RENDER ALL THEIR FUCKERY WITH THE LAWS NULL AND VOID.
I AM NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE DO NOTHING. I AM SAYING THAT THEIR ACTIONS AND FLAILING ARE NOT IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ALL DIE FROM CLIMATE COLLAPSE IN 30-40 YEARS WITH THEM IN POWER OR WE FIX THIS SHIT AND ONLY PROBABLY DIE HORRIBLY FROM CLIMATE COLLAPSE IN 100-200 YEARS.
I AM FIGHTING FOR THE REDUCTION IN OUR CHANCES OF DEATH.
did you hear me that time…?
From an outside perspective its pretty clear that there is no coming back for the US without a violent intervention.
With how fucked up your electoral college is, there is now option for a third party to slowly grow in support like its possible in most democracies. That means your only options are both far right corporate puppets that have no real interest in fixing the underlying problems of the country, which in turn radicalises even more people.
Sure the Democrats are oders of magnitude better than the current nutjobs, but they historically did only the bare minimum to be seen as “the good guys” and “progressive”. Anywhere else in the world they would still be right wing conservatives. Looking at how Mamdani policies get criticized by members of his own party should be all the proof you need.
Pretty much the only way out of this downward circle would be for 100 Million Americans to simultaneously decide to vote for the same 3rd party.
That would be the ideal solution, yes.
Oil burns a little too readily for them to be taking non-violent options off the table. A paper warehouse is nothing compared to this potential.
Frankly? The United States is not a two parties country. It’s a no party country. Ever thought about why monopoly laws from the eighties no longer exist?
There is a communist party. And a green party. And like 10 more, depending where you live.
The problem is not that there are not progressive parties. The problem is that the US is not a democracy, and it’s designed so only one party can win elections
Reagan was an antichrist, yes
Do they realize that this will lead to more physical sabotage against oil infrastructure? If they get rid of any non-violent means of mitigating concerns, they leave only one option.
After what the americans have mustered against a fascist takeover I don’t think the rich are very scared about someone trying to “sabotage” the oil infrastructure…
Right wing violence (which includes neo Nazis, fundamentalist Christians bombing abortion clinics, etc) and fundamentalist Islam attacks make up the overwhelming majority of political violence in the USA but left wing violence exists. And of that left wing violence the majority is what they call “ecoterrorism”
It’s not obscenely common (tbf no political violence is “extremely common” in America, statistically still very unlikely) but it does happen. It’s just far less publicized because “some people bombed an oil transport line/hummer dealership at night/etc” is not nearly as clickbaity as “weird scumbag with a manifesto about great replacement theory posted to 8chan shot 35 people”
I don’t want to sound condescending but so it’s both not known about and doesn’t seem to work. I mean you won’t have regime change because an insurance company has to pay elon musk for burnt unsold cars.
Yes they can barely keep the regime in place with the violent revolutionary clashes going on every day.
The US land of the free guerilla makes Hamas look like boy scouts.
In other news, Ted Cruz wants big oil to know he has feelings for them but he’s not sure if they like him back.
Democrats aren’t saying anything because on the real issues that effect everyone (economics) the two parties are almost perfectly aligned.
Have been since Clinton won.on the real issues that effect everyone (economics) the two parties are almost perfectly aligned.
Is that why one has a good track record with the economy and the other absolutely fucking tanks it every fucking time?
And it’s “affect” not “effect”. Yes, I’m being that asshole.
They differ in the details slightly, accounting for performance differences. But every time the interests of the asset class conflicts with the interests of the consumer class, they both make sure the asset class is happy.
Whenever I see affect I think of people making faces. And any single economic decision effects people, while the economy as a whole affects people. With my phrasing I can see either works.
Affect is a verb: the rising grocery and gas prices are affecting my spending choices.
Effect is a noun: the effect of rising grocery and gas prices are changing my spending choices
In your example: any single economic decision has an effect on people, while the economy as a whole affects people.
Except when affect is a noun (disposition or emotion) and effect is a verb (to bring about or make happen).
Just to make things more difficult. :)
Another unpopular move by the party of pedophile supporters
They framed it as a way to “protect American energy from leftist legal crusades punishing lawful activity.”
Aren’t lawful actions already protected by, you know, the law? By definition, the only legal punishments that could happen are for illegal actions. This doesn’t even make the slightest bit of sense as reasoning. They didn’t even try to manufacture justification.
Anyway, when the justice system no longer can be relied on to provide justice, extra-legal methods must be taken to ensure a just society. Them doing this could be either of two things, or both. It’s them actually protecting dirty energy companies, as it sounds, or it’s them requiring vigilantism to stop it, which gives them justification to crack down on “the left” and anyone else who stands against them.
Edit: Also, they consistently say that climate change isn’t real, and yet they feel the need to pass a law that explicitly is there to protect against the harms of climate change. Either it’s real, and they should pay (especially since they knew about it and mislead the public, which this also explicitly protects), or it isn’t real, and this law is pointless.
the actual way to solve “leftist legal crusades” (if they exist): anti-SLAPP laws that punish frivolous lawsuits… but that would hurt them more than “leftists”
clearly the only option is killing all of the politicians
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Conservatives. The comic book villains that came to life and terrorize an entire planet.
americans
You sound as if you think the democrats are a progressive party
Unlike the Republicans, they don’t completely exclude progressives.
They just mostly exclude progressives.
aside from like only 2 dems in congress, almost every other one is complicit.
