dems say something? why? they profit too.
Making something like that illegal sounds like an acceleration of revolution. They REALLY want to use their guns.
The dose of medicine that anyone who thinks this is a good idea needs is a 50 bmg.
The woman looks like Catherine O’Hara playing an incompetent villain
Why you gotta do Catherine O’Hara dirty like that?
She looks like Dan Akroyd in makeup
If only they weren’t shareholders…
Democrats also love fossil fuel money.
Shouldnt the ficking population of the US do something about it? Why is it up to the democrats? Are the us population inept?
What?
I am an American citizen, this is a democratic republic, the thing I’m supposed to be doing about this is voting, which I’ve done religiously since my 18th birthday 22 years ago. It’s up to the democrats because that’s what we voted for them to do! It’s their literal job!! When you’re the opposition party it’s your job to fight for me, the person who elected you, that’s how this works! The rule of law is far more powerful than I could ever be, that’s why we vote, it’s a proxy for literal fighting. I’m “inept” at literally fighting because that’s not my, or anyone’s role in society I’m very capable of doing my job as a citizen of a democratic republic however, I vote, I write letters, I fundraise, I organize, I used to caucus until my state stoped doing that… my job is to be a citizen not a brawler. I’m doing my job, the Dems need to do theirs.
Just because you want that to be their job doesn’t mean it is. Maybe in theory they work for you. In reality they don’t though they work for the monied nterests that ACTUALLY get them elected. So what are you going to do now? Nothing?
What would you suggest they do?
Oh yes how dare I suggest someone do more than vote and then absolve themselves of any further responsibility
Just asking what you would do if you were in their shoes. Do you have any actual suggestions, or are you just enjoying feeling superior?
Yeah but what?
because that’s what we voted for them to do!
No, we really didn’t.
This could be stopped with the President, with the House of Representatives, with the Senate, or with the Supreme Court.
Which one of those should Democrats use to fight this?
Downvoted for facts. The truth is more people cared to vote for the Republicans in charge or not at all. Deal with it.
Acting like the Democrats can do anything here is stupid AF and only exists to further depress turnout.
Notice how these people never really seem to direct their ire at the people actually responsible- Republicans and non voters.
Why is it up to the democrats?
Because they’re the only ones imbued with the power to defeat legislation on behalf of the people who are not themselves members of the fascist cult, though most of them are so deeply in the pocket of fossil fuel interests that they need snorkels to breathe.
Are the us population inept?
Yes, and no. The people in charge of doing things the legal ways are REALLY into stopping people from threatening their power and revenue streams by any means necessary or unnecessary up to and including mass murder.
Even peacefully protesting against oil pipelines is illegal in most jurisdictions and considered TERRORISM in some.
Ever tried to attack a tank battalion armed with just whatever rocks you are able to pick up from the ground, Gaza style?
That’s about the power balance between regular people and powerful people in the US when the courts aren’t available. Often even when they are.
If they’re removing the people’s only legal means of action/recourse, then the people will eventually resort to other means.
You’re totally right about the power imbalance, though. So many keyboard warriors conveniently ignore that…
The second amendment imbues the people, us, the power to defeat legislation, on behalf of ourselves, from the Nazis in power.
Literally, the Constitution gives us the power to kill the fascists currently in power, which is what will be required to get our country back, unless we just want to sit back and watch it fall, which appears to be the case.
Literally, the Constitution gives us the power to kill the fascists currently in power
Does it? How, by giving them papercuts with that crumbly old document? And you expect them to just… idly let you do this?
The second amendment imbues the people, us, the power to defeat legislation, on behalf of ourselves, from the Nazis in power.
Literally, the Constitution gives us the power to kill the fascists currently in power
Nope. It was intended to facilitate national defense as an alternative to a standing army (which the founders were against having on principle), not defense AGAINST the government.
Even if that WAS the intention, anything that civilians are allowed to own is styrofoam pebbles compared to the armaments of most local police departments, let alone the most overfunded military in the history of mankind.
which is what will be required to get our country back, unless we just want to sit back and watch it fall, which appears to be the case.
Nope. That’s a false dichotomy. It’s simply not true that firing handguns at the grotesque might of the US government is the only alternative to doing literally nothing.
I had never quite realized just how much the second amendment was basically: we might need an army at a moments notice, certainly allowances of weaponry would be appropriate, even the organization of militias. And I don’t know if the founding fathers or anyone back then could have imagined what the human population would grow to in a few centuries. This rule could never have accounted for a population of over 300 million, without even accounting for cultural and psychosocial alterations of time and technology. Back then maybe a militia could have effected a coup, but today it would be hopeless even if a large number organized they would be caught in surveillance dragnet and/or egregiously overmatched. Makes me feel like it should be harped on more that the second amendment in present context is too often misrepresented.
Nope. It was intended to facilitate national defense as an alternative to a standing army (which the founders were against having on principle), not defense AGAINST the government.
Stop skipping over the part where it says “being necessary to the security of a free State”. If the government infringes on our freedoms, like it currently is, the second amendment absolutely applies. It’s a deterrent to threats both foreign and domestic.
Nope. That’s a false dichotomy. It’s simply not true that firing handguns at the grotesque might of the US government is the only alternative to doing literally nothing.
Yet again, you’re wrong. You can’t just vote out the corruption. As seen in how many decades, where the corruption has become more and more rampant, and unchecked?
You should maybe learn about the civil war and the American revolution, where we literally fought and killed for the betterment of our country.
So when are you picking up your arms and doing something about it?
When at least 30% of the population actively like what’s going on, 30% hate it and 40% don’t care either way then you have some serious issues that might not be solvable by diplomatic means, especially when everyone seems to have lost the tenants of statesmanship and it’s developed into a shit-slinging match.
That’s the same with every country, you aren’t special
Assuming you’re not a US-ian, you might not know: the US doesn’t have any concept of a recall or no-confidence vote like other countries do. Once the election is over, there’s nothing the population can legally do about it except protest (which a decent chunk are doing). It’s up to the Democrats because they’re the ones that were elected by the population to provide a check to the Republicans.
Look, the US is running on a pre-alpha build of representative democracy. We should’ve updated the system centuries ago, but at this point memory leaks are so out of control and a ton of the cache is mis-addressed, so there’s serious questions about whether the thing needs to just be shut down and rebooted in safe mode.
You guys weren’t even the first modern democracy please shut the fuck up.
Nobody claimed we were
The guy who said “were operating on an alpha build” did
Does not sound very modern to me.
I didn’t say we were. I said we were running pre-alpha software. Not because that’s all that was available at the time, but because we chose to believe that we were exceptional enough to handle writing our own constitution without learning from those who came before.
What country implemented democracy before 1776?
Greece. Republic of Rome, to name just two.
Neither of those were modern democrocies. Hell, one could argue that the word democracy doesn’t actually apply to modern democracies since we are not using the Greek definition of the word.
We are technically using the Six Nations definition of the word.
Switzerland, Iceland, the Iroquois Confederacy, polish-lithiuanian Commonwealth, san marino
Iceland has one of the oldest parliaments. It didn’t become a democracy until 1944. San Marino vested sovereignty in the people (the definition of democracy) in 1974.
Ok. By that definition the us isn’t a democracy either. If you don’t count imperfect democracies and then only count your own imperfect democracy as a democracy then yeah. You’re the first. Congrats.
Who votes for president again?
C’mon, now, Iceland was under the Danish king until 1944. That’s clearly a monarchy. As for San Marino, the point is that they were tweaking bedrock fundamentals of their system as recently as 1974. It’s not been the same one in use for hundreds of years.
In 1776 Switzerland was not even called Switzerland, it was The Old Swiss Confederacy, and not even a single unified country. They didn’t abandon the sovereignty of the individual cantons until 1848 when they adopted their constitution. I wouldn’t call the canton situation a modern democracy.
I’ll give you The Six Nations.
I don’t know enough about the others to say specifically, but I suspect that much like Switzerland, they didn’t reform their governments from a fuedal state to a modern state until the mid to late 1800s much like the rest of Europe.
Harder to get people to tune out if you don’t “both sides” shit all the time and focus on the party not in power for the same reason.
Yes, they have effectively neutered themselves
The American population is composed almost entirely of petulant idiots.
Half of them think is just maga hats and the maga hates think it’s the non-maga hats. Each is only half wrong.
The one time both sides truely applied here. None of them can admit it’s also them. The proof is in the extreme emotional reactions that occur when they are called out.
People who post this type of trash and those who agree with it are exactly the type of people I am referring to. Those who question it are not and are also laughed at by both sides. Further proof that I speak truth.
The irony of calling Americans idiots when you can’t even form a coherent sentence.
Half of them think is just maga hats and the maga hates think it’s the non-maga hats. Each is only half wrong.
The one time both sides truely applied here. None of them can admit it’s also them.
Woof dude, proofread your shit.
Excellent example of attacking the messenger without addressing the message.
Bravo.
Thank you for providing the example behavior I didn’t ask for but knew someone couldn’t resist providing.
Why should anyone take your hypocritical message seriously? Calling out hypocrisy is idiocy? That makes zero fucking sense.
The message you delivered was mostly just more “both sides” bullshit so it doesn’t really deserve much more than that.
Don’t you dare hurt my favorite little fossil fuel companies!!!
These people are cartoon villains.
From captain planet
ABSOLUTELY.
The worst part of growing up as a fan of superhero cartoons and comics isn’t realizing that the heroes aren’t real. It’s realizing that the villains are.
these are the words i came here to type. i guess im not a unique snowflake.
What ought the Democrats do when they are a minority? Can you like… Give an example? I’m genuinely curious
repeal capitalism.
Wow. So brave
Democrats are in the minority so they can’t even say anything.
It’s certainly not because they don’t want to
Democrats are in the minority so they can’t even say anything.
That’s not how it works. Their job isn’t just to vote on legislation. It’s also to advocate for what’s best for their constituents.
Saying nothing in the face of colossally blatant corruption is dereliction of duty by anyone elected to represent the people. Especially ones who pretend to represent everyone with opinions left of fascism.
It’s certainly not because they don’t want to
Sure looks like it, based on checks notes their words, actions, and lack of both for decades, including when they were in the majority.
Hell, even the bill they hailed as the “biggest climate change bill ever” made any expansion of renewable energy contingent on a dramatic increase in leases of government land for the purpose of fossil fuel extraction.
That’s not how it works.
Easy bro. I was mocking centrists who use the excuse because they like how their party enables fascism.
My bad! It’s hard to tell mockery from excuses when it comes to them sometimes lol
