I was watching some video and there was mention of someone getting 1984. Upon which, a guy said that this one (one who got 1984) will end up being radicalized. I was already born into a very radical environment so no needs of books to radicalize me (although I am trying to be moderate and chill now)
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Stolen Continents
Didn’t really radicalise me but it’s interesting that people had those ideas a long time ago too.
“The right to be lazy” (translation by me so it’s worth what it’s worth)
The Bible
For me, it was Quran who made me question the majority and gave me a questioning mind and now I am an atheist.
The book that reads at the very beginning something like “you must believe everything written in this book with blind fate” made you question things? Or maybe I picked up a tampered copy… 🤔 I read that, put it back on the shelve and never picked it up again.
For me, i was raised religious. Fully believed it all because I was a child and the idea that its all a con was way beyond my capabilities. Got a little older, family fell apart and religion stopped being shoved down my throat.
Decided to read the bible so I could understand the whole story instead of just being lectured about a couple of paragraphs plucked at random.
God creates everything and then straight up fireballs everyone to death in the first like 5 minutes of reading. Ive been taught since birth that God loves us. Been drilled into my head that God has a perfect plan. Chapter fucking one God says whoops and does a genocide.
I did not finish the book.
I mean 1984 did a pretty good job radicalizing me against fascism. I consider it radicalization because turns out America really likes fascism so I guess I’m in the minority.
But why then US fought Germany if US also likes fascism?
Read 1984 and you’ll understand. Or any history of a region just after WWII with insane leaders.
It’s not just a question of fascism or no fascism. It’s that fascist leaders only want their fascism out there. Neighboring fascist counties usually hate each other because of the competition.
Also we can spot evil in others. Its dangerous for us to recognise it and then realise its us too.
Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent
Lord of the flies
I know Lord of the Flies is an allegory for the authors experience during and after WW2, but I do think its incredibly ironic the only real life example we have of the book turned out the complete opposite
Just reading about history has done that to me. I don’t really read fiction, but I read a ton of history, usually about one book per month or so. But seeing how the human history is just basically despair and misery, makes you a bit annoyed that we still haven’t gotten any better.
History books got names too!
Yeah I know. But I don’t like to recommend just random topics, because when I do, I’ve noticed that people just go “oh wasn’t interested in that” so I’d rather ask a bit about what topics and time periods people might be interested in, before recommending.
And to be clear, I don’t really have a specific book or books in mind that radicalized me. It happened by reading tens, or a hundred, books in the period of 10-15 years. So in that I can’t give a recommendation, other than, just start reading about stuff. Start with something you wanted to know, wanted to know more about or were interested in, then during reading that thing, note down anything else that comes to mind that might interest you. Either something the book mentioned or something that popped in your mind randomly. Then get a book about that thing. Repeat.
That’s how I got sunk into this hole of reading about history. I just go “huh, what’s that about?!” and proceed to find out. /r/askhistorians subreddit has a excellent reading list in their wiki, its sorted into periods and topics, easy to search. That’s a good place to start.
You want something strictly relevant to all the messes we’re in today?
The Hundred Years' War on PalestineandThe Ethnic Cleansing of Palestineare must reads. Round them off withBeyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of HistoryThen read
Inventing Reality: The Politics of News MediaandManufacturing Consent(obligatory fuck pedo-associated and possibly pedo Chompsky).Take a break from reality and read a quick fiction:
The Trial.If you’re not radicalized by anger at this point, you’re one of the baddies.
I agree with this but its kinda also that we seem to be going backward big time. If you look at ww1 to ww2 and how shorta time span that was with the depression and then look back on the last quarter decade. its like. this is some bull trump.
Yeah it puts things in perspective. Sadly, lately the perspective has been “this is awful and things will become even more awful for the next decade or two at least. Probably more.”
Island - Aldous Huxley
Less radicalized and more just opened my thinking about how society could be and how imperial forces and people’s desires get in the way constantly. More of a ‘this is why utopia can’t happen’ vs Brave New World’s ‘look at this dystopia’
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson. I’d be shocked if every person who bought a copy isn’t on a watchlist automatically.
I’m on a big Kim Stanley Robinson kick lately (currently reading Aurora) and I haven’t heard of this one. Definitely picking that up lol
1984
Animal Farm
The Jungle
Slaughterhouse Five
Brave New World
A Farewell to Arms
Blood Meridian
Guns, Germs, and Steel
To Kill A Mockingbird
Bullshit Jobs
I know I at least read Animal Farm and To Kill a Mockingbird when I was younger. I wonder how much those ended up influencing me. At the time I wouldn’t have totally agreed with them, and I don’t remember them having a particularly large influence, but they probably did affect me without me knowing. However, I also watched a lot of sci-fi and Star Trek, which probably had an even greater influence.
I wish there was a way to analyze our past and pick apart what effect different things had. It’d be really fun to know. I think when you consume something that you think really changes you, you were already primed for that change before. A lot of things lead up to that moment that you don’t even recognize.
Is last one really the title of book?
none. its honestly the right wing that is radicalizing me. I was a (ironically) and extreme agnostic. It was things like qanon which made me have to come to terms with the fact that humans will just believe and follow bullshit. Not just that but tea party and now maga. Its like an effing religion. Heck the 911 memorial stuff is kinda pissing me off because it lead to the patriot act and loss of rights and privacy. Every flag waver and republican at this point that opens their mouth is radicalizing me.
Well I grew up in right and far right environment.
Where can I buy this book?
the book of none can be found with the real nowhere man. You can find him sitting in his nowhere land. Generally he is usually making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
Benjamin’s essay “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction.” Related: he quotes Marinetti’s 1909 “Manifesto of Futurism” which is still frighteningly relevant.
A People’s History of the United States blew my mind wide open in high school.
There was a book which I picked up from my high-school library and it really did a number on the younger me. “Green Rage” was a book written by Chris Manes in the early 90s about radical environmentalism and it gave me a new perspective on things I had not been aware of at the time. While I never actually got directly involved with any environmentalist groups, I did start to better appreciate how our Capitalist system’s need extract value at any cost from natural resources would have disastrous consequences.
Fast forward 35 years and I can’t honestly say if the author’s more dire predictions haven’t come to pass since you simply can’t trust corporate media to give unvarnished truth about anything. But I have seen and experienced things with my own eyes that give them credence. The fact that the title for this book came to mind immediately when I read this post/prompt says something about it’s impact I think.
Just read people’s history by Howard zinn and that’ll radicalize a lot of people. It’s just the rich fucking everyone over and over.
And it continues to this day.
