• Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml
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    Not just USA, but all countries with “democracy”. Every candidates to vote came from same oligarch groups.

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      The United States has a uniparty; all voting does is change the decal on the genocide machine. Vote if you want, I don’t really care, but don’t act like it does anything of substance.

      Don’t only vote. But fucking vote.

      libbing-out

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          Most states have cheating in the primaries, both parties: unless you are lucky to live in a state that uses a voting system which prevents that.

          What is the purpose of participating in a primary unless the votes are transparently counted and recounted by humans who are witnessed by representatives of the candidates?

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            If it is to raise awareness of the cheating, then some participation maybe good? Like, if the candidate or party/org is allowed to point at the the problematic voting system and propose changes etc as part of campaign promotion.

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              I would be totally behind raising awareness of proper vote counting with paper ballots; except that is what I did for years in my state, at first inside the Democratic Party ; then later when that had no traction, outside of it.

              There is zero demand or push for better vote counting that I saw in the progressive wings of the Democratic Party. And equally few cares given by people in the republican side.

              I spoke to activists in minority communities and there is zero momentum there, and no appetite to take that on.

              In fact, it was such a sad experience for me, that it’s what inspired me to become a communist.

              I’ve experienced trying to raise awareness and it only raised my awareness, not others.

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      Voting for genocide is not okay how hard is it to comprehend to you people?

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          What the fuck are you trying to say? Genocide is being treated as a bipartisan issue in the name of voting democrats. Who gets the cookie? is it crackers for the cracKKKers? You’re vile that you completely wrote off the Palestinians if it means you get that cookie. Disgusting.

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              both sides don’t give a shit about some mostly homeless people on the other side of the world.

              LMFAO what a mask off. Talk about dehumanizing the pain and misery your country inflicts on the rest of the world as “some mostly homeless people”

              Have you considered following your leader?


              Edit: I just looked at your modlog and wow. This does explain why the Hitler particles detector was beeping hot when pointed at your posts.

              (“Not giving a shit about them” when referring to Palestinians and the genocide they are going through)

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          one side is a shit sandwich with human rights

          Your daily reminder that western shitlibs don’t consider Palestinians human

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          That’s a lot of words for “first they came for the Palestinians, and I threw their asses under the bus because they’re not me.”

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          Are you even serious?

          are you serious? 99% Hitler vs 100% Hitler? Except you only care about domestic issues and don’t give one fuck about people outside your country. You don’t even consider them human when you talk like this.

          Fucking disgusting. How about overthrowing your fucking genocidal governments?

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              Why is this hard?

              Why is this hard for you?

              but one side is genocide both at home and abroad

              You people are fucking pathetic btw. Palestine is going through daily bombings, dehumanization, torture and mass killings. All as part of your country’s push for genocide along with “Israel”. And they are still struggling and fighting and resisting.

              And you experience ONE BILLIONTH of the pain and you decide turning genocide into a bipartisan issue is the way to go!

              Selfish and monstrous.

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          This shit would also be under the colour blue. Kamala Harris was mocking Trump for not deporting enough lmfao

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    America is the only society I know of that boasts of open elections but has no collective curiosity about who counts the votes or how it’s done.

    I’m not saying fair elections would help; but I still get triggered easily by the subject.

    I would like to think future historians will be as unkind to the vote pushers, as they will be to the fascists

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    I know it can be incredibly frustrating. Only 50-ish to 60-ish percent turnout out most elections which is sad (https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_elections). You can also vote with your money. Be conscious about what you spend your money on or just spend less. Vote with your data (restrict access to it). Be anonymous. Delete online accounts or use fake information as much as possible. Don’t feed the machine. Vote with your actions. Protest and show support for what you believe in. Vote with your feelings. Don’t go for the rage bait and trolls. Block all that shit. Don’t let it drag you down. Free your mind. Vote with your morals. Help those in need. Be kind. And above all just survive. You can’t make a difference if you are dead.

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    I feel like if there was any sort of uprising, the far right vastly out numbers the far left. What comes out may not be what we want.

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      Let me introduce you to something called the American civil war, where we’re already learned the far right can’t win.

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          My own dem governor is throwing people like me under the bus, the entire democratic party is adopting genocidal rhetoric and policies to embrace a non existent center. Please sincerely fuck off with this garbage blaming the left. No amount of voting for people that hate me is going to improve my conditions or stop the fascists from wanting to exterminate me. Do not fucking talk down to me.

          Also I am not and never will be “a dem that didn’t vote” I am a communist and I am painfully aware of the fact there is no way to stop fascism just by voting for those who openly state their desire to preserve the capitalist system that gave rise to and is giving rise to and always will give rise to fascism and Nazism.

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          Blaming millions of working class people in the democratic base over the vastly smaller amount of policymakers in the DNC leadership, who chose to run to the right on almost every issue in an attempt to gain the votes of the mythical ‘moderate conservatives’ is ridiculous imo.
          Including choosing to support a genocide unpopular with the public as a whole(Poll from March 27, 2024: https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx and the numbers were even higher when you selected for people more inclined to vote for the democrats) which would obviously suppress voter turnout among the left-leaning base who couldn’t swollow their morality to vote for a party directly arming genocidaires.

          The DNC being beholden to their Megadonors and PACs over the working class base, thus running on a triangulated center-right pro-genocide platform instead of on policy that would materially benefit the base and aligns with their values at the expense of the Megadonors profits Is how we actually got here

          You can’t browbeat people working 40+ hours a week living paycheck to paycheck to the polls with ‘lesser evilism’,
          the DNC has to radically change their platform leftwards to energise the base to get out the vote

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            Posts like this are meant to reduce turnout

            This shit always pisses me off so much. Nobody is deciding whether to vote or not based on shitposts on an extremely niche internet forum.

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          Alraight, this is pissing me off. Why in the fuck should I vote dem if they embrace the genocide against me and my people as soon as they have any damn pressure? They have this coming election in the bag, why are they trying to be “culturally normal”? Ill tell you why, they are not our friends, voting for them only makes you feel good because your vote is colored blue. You are a part of the problem because to you this is just a game, but to me, I aint playing. This is life and death for people like me. FU lib.

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              Edit: dems that didn’t vote this last election ARE how we got here. This meme is just plain dumb

              Dems were pushing hard on genocide, it was ramped up significally under Biden too.