• Almacca@aussie.zone
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    Side note about driver awareness: I see a lot of cars on the road with rear windows so dirty that they’re virtually opaque. The cars clearly have wipers and washers. I can only assume these drivers never check their mirrors. Baffling.

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      Rear windows serve no useful purpose. You need to look at what’s in front, not what’s behind

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    9 hours ago

    There sure are a lot of people in this thread willing to defend driving distracted for a fuckcars thread. I honestly can’t describe how fucking sick I am of “it’s okay when I do it” entitlement and I had hoped that the people here were above that.

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      I dont use headphones while driving but I’m not okay with whats going on in this thread. No one runs around maliciously with their mirror tucked to be an asshole.

      Instead of taking a picture of someone without their knowledge (which looks like it was taken from a car on the road funnily enough and no one is ripping on the photographer), it would have been even easier to honk and let her know her mirror is closed.

      And then taking the next step and positing it online so people could make fun of her is even worse.

      Everyone occasionally has a day. Be a human and try and treat others with the respect you would like to have too.

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    Do you guys remember that before Bluetooth cars, headphones were the only way to drive and take a phone call without getting a ticket? And we don’t know this woman’s situation, someone could have hit her car and the mirrors broke and she’s on her way to the mechanic. Let’s normalize not taking pictures of people without their knowledge and then making fun of them on the internet.

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      Do you guys remember that before Bluetooth cars, headphones were the only way to drive and take a phone call without getting a ticket

      Absolutely. Speakerphones were never a thing, and phone manufacturers never made wired accessories or aux cables to connect to your car stereo.

      Nokia 810 car phone

      Sony Ericsson car phone kit

      someone could have hit her car and the mirrors broke

      True. Broken mirrors look exactly like they’ve been neatly tucked in.

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        Are you really advocating for a world where a momentary mistake should be blasted online for strangers to mercilessly make fun of you? She isn’t a public figure.

        Not everyone could afford that attachment you showed. Everyone and their brother had those wireless Bluetooth earbuds to the point that there is a whole era of movies that make fun of finance bros and their overuse. Idk why you’re so upset about this but taking a wireless phone call via an earbud isn’t illegal.

        I don’t know her car situation, but shit happens. As a human with empathy I’m going to give her the benefit of the doubt. Someone could have been hurt and she’s on her way to the hospital and was too upset to check her mirror and was getting directions on the phone. There are just so many things that this picture could show but everyone wants to assume she’s a malicious asshole. For all any of us know, this literally could be a snapshot of the worst moment of her life.

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      Let’s be real here. She gives zero shits about anyone around her. I see it DAILY. No fucking way she’s taking that to the mechanic right now. I don’t care about the headphones but she does not give a fuck about anyone else

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    Looks like it might be India? It used to be that everyone had them folded in because they would get snapped off in traffic. Also the noise from horns is loud AF. Still not great, but context matters.

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    I don’t get why everyone is complaining about the folded mirrors when she has pixels all over her eyes.

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    The earphones aren’t a problem per se, if you listen with approrpriate sound where you can still hear an ambulance coming or a car horn. I don’t think this person is doing that, but lets guve them the benefit of the doubt. But the mirrors folded is next level stupudity. There is no doubt that this person should be driving at all.

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      It’s not the case here obviously, but fyi for others that airpods 2/3 can function as OTC hearing aids that are more affordable than prescription. I have a family member who uses them.

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      You can also see well-enough to drive while blindfolded if the material is thin enough. Doesn’t mean that it should be legal to drive with a blindfold over your eyes.

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      It’s illegal. And we need more people getting caught and held accountable.

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      Aside from like an F1 race, I don’t know of a single place where it’s legal to wear headphones while operating a motor vehicle.

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        For example. Reasoning is the same that allows you to listen to the radio: as long as you can hear car horns and emergency vehicles, you can listen to whatever at whatever volume. But you can be found more at fault if you crash into something, in certain cases.

        Anyway, now you know.

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          The picture literally says that you can still be fined for distracted driving…

          Also, “it doesn’t explicitly say I can’t so it must be legal” is the Donald Trump defense.

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            Yes, IF an officer determines the device distracted you. That is literally the same ruling as a car radio.

            And because you brought him up, I think the way you won’t admit your error is more like him.

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                Why did you say:

                The picture literally says that you can still be fined for distracted driving

                When, as I explained, that had nothing to do with legality of earphones?

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        Its dangerous not to wear hearing protection on motorcycles over like 60mph for long rides and much shorter rides if you go slower.

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            I wear earbuds with inverse sound-cancelling; it lets me listen to music while I can still hear what’s going on, and I haven’t noticed any damage after long rides.

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      The folded mirrors is probably to avoid clipping stuff in tight city streets. They’re probably driving slower than walking.

      This is a poor person driving. I don’t see the big deal.

      I see worse luxury car drivers every day.

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    There’s a number of things that I strongly believe should result in an automatic short term suspension, because the driver clearly has no fucking clue what they’re doing. Driving without lights lights off at night (I don’t give a shit about your auto lights, turn them on manually because it’s not working) and driving with folded mirrors are two of the items. Failing to clear snow off glass is another.

    Driving with two earphones in is a problem. They simply do a better job of blocking ambient sound than the car speakers. People get mad ad pedestrians or cyclists who don’t hav situational awareness because of their headphones; drivers have a greater responsibility because of the size of their vehicle.

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      Driving without lights lights off at night

      I had a cop cite me for turning my bright-ass bicycle light off at night while riding on a quiet, lit sidewalk at 2am.

      That is entirely different than grandma getting in a black car and driving on a pitch black night, or a white car leaving their lights off during heavy rain and doing 20 below in the left hand lane.

      driving with folded mirrors

      I have had drivers who forgot to leave room at a stoplight fold their mirror to let me and the dozen other motorcycles by at a light.

      Anything that is likely to have nuance can’t have zero-tolerance policies or you’re subjecting a bunch of people to disproportionate to unjust punishment.

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        If you were close enough to a car on a motorcycle that they had to fold their mirror in then you were too close and there was no room.

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          Its vietnam, being inches from cars and other bikes happens every single time you go somewhere, whether by bike or walking. If I had blocked everyone behind me, I would have created a dangerous situation.

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          Usually there is enough room. The cagers are just scared I’ll clip the mirror.

          Mind you I don’t live in the US and the lanes are much narrower on average, also people don’t have guns.

          At long light cycles I will duck and weave between lanes and around mirrors as much as necessary to reach the front. As is legal in my state.

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    I don’t care about the earphones. May as well say the deaf can’t drive.

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      Yea, earphones aren’t going to make a difference, or maybe you shouldn’t drive with a radio on? Or that the sound deadening in the car doesn’t already block most of the sound outside the car.

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        Not only is it illegal in several countries, it is also proven to negatively impact attention and reaction times.

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          Here’s the problem: if we gave a shit about safety, we’d get pretty close to banning cars.

          This is like complaining that the internal walls of the titanic should have been a few centimeters higher.