• FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Let’s not forget that Kap got that suggestion from a Soldier. These asshats don’t bother with context or nuance, it’s all just too woke

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      9 months ago

      Bruh I got into such an intense argument with my parents because I defended the BLM protests. They came at me hardcore for “violence” and “destruction of property”. I asked them what the hell protestors were supposed to do to draw attention to their cause, and they told me that they would have respected a “peaceful protest”.

      I then pointed out the fact that Colin Kaepernick’s career still hasn’t recovered, and that they themselves haven’t watched an NFL game since then…so no, they wouldn’t. My dad then of course whipped out his favorite “insult”: “Fucking Liberal”, and then proceeded to tell me that I have no respect for the flag.

      The inability for them to think critically is absolutely astounding.

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        Family is the worst when it comes to this stuff. Mine is all military, it is fucking WILD to me to hear all the old grunts who’d kill a commie for being red back when we were in a Cold War…now they’re telling me why this orange guy says the truth. Propaganda is a hell of a drug

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          It’s really wild to me, tbh. The military is what made me as Progressive as I am. My father served as well during Desert Storm in the USMC. He traveled around too. Yet I grew up in an extremely conservative household.

          I wonder what yours says when trying to reconcile their own cognitive dissonance. It wasn’t that long ago that we were actively against Russia FFS,

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            My dad did 4 in the navy and got out chillin on ships and seeing some places, I haven’t talked to him for a long time cause he burned that bridge in other traditional shitty family ways,. Over covid out of the blue he commented on Facebook on one of my posts that protestors aren’t a problem if we shoot them, and that I’m “a pussy lib who hates America.”

            I’m 100% with the VA for injuries sustained in an IED blast. ^(and he knows that)

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              Bruh, I am so fucking sorry that not only does your father seem uncaring in general (going off the “traditional shitty family ways” comment), but the fact that he completely disregarded the very real sacrifice you endured for the United States in general sounds like the most unbelievably frustrating and demoralizing thing ever. I’ve been fortunate enough to never deploy to a combat zone (all of my deployments have been to friendly zones), and I cannot imagine what you’ve been through, and how you’re contending with a family member disregarding it. I hope you have all the support in the world my dude!

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        They came at me hardcore for “violence” and “destruction of property”.

        Same as it ever was.

        Nobody question how much of that damage was caused by squad cars plowing through pedestrian traffic and beanbag rounds crashing through store fronts. Nobody ask why there’s a cop’s night stick protruding from your windshield.

        Its those damned violent extremist protesters, I tell you.

        proceeded to tell me that I have no respect for the flag

        Hey, listen. Maybe if the price of toilet paper hadn’t risen so quickly, you’d be right. But I respect the shit out of some cheap disposable material when I’m in a tight spot.

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        The inability for them to think critically is absolutely astounding.

        They’re coming from an emotional place. They feel things and scramble for words to express it. You can’t use facts with someone who doesn’t care about them. It’s all emotion.

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        Kapernick’s day has long passed because of this. But I think the base issue was that he wasn’t good enough as a player to get away with it. For example: Mahomes would get a pass.

        The NFL is replete with examples of them turning a blind eye to a player’s actions IF they are good enough. See: DUI and domestic abuse cases against players. Like say Deshaun Watson…

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        9 months ago

        I’ve made that same argument so many times. Weaselly maga jackasses can’t even stay consistent with their own tortured logic.