• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Yes, yes. We all know that you folks have moved on from “don’t vote for Biden” to “don’t vote for Harris.”

    This country really needs Project 2025, doesn’t it?

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      11 months ago

      Who said not to vote for her?
      I didn’t read that anywhere in Weevil’s comment.

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          That these policies are rather mid, and they would like to see better. That doesn’t imply anything about voting.

          You can support your favorite sports ball team, and still complain when they suck, wanting them to do better.

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              Upvote for effort alone.

              But you gotta realize, I didn’t mention Biden’s accomplishments. It’s all arguing against something I wasn’t even talking about. So as great as your comment is, it’s kinda misplaced.

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              11 months ago

              I’ve read them all.
              They complain about policy more, explain the election system, and complain about Netenyahoo jerking us around. None of which suggests to not vote for Harris.

              In fact they clearly state that Trump is worse.

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                I think you are deliberately refusing to see something that pretty much everyone else here can see just because he isn’t literally saying “don’t vote for Harris.”

                But sure, maybe he’s saying not to vote at all. Which is basically the same thing.

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                  As someone who is terminally on Lemmy you should do more to build a better culture of charitable interpretation of what people are saying instead of trying to fucking gestapo-up alleged Trump supporters and silence any criticism of your preferred candidate.

                  It’s toxic shit

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                    No, Democrats are perfect and anyone who doesn’t love their constant failures at everything but funding genocide must be literally Trump.

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                    Maybe you should look at their post history and see if that “charitable interpretation” is justified.

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                  Close.
                  I’m deliberately refusing to infer something that isn’t implied. I’m refusing to try to mind-read someone I don’t know. I’m deliberately accepting their statements at face value, because I don’t know them.

                  It’s how I would hope people read what I write.
                  And how I believe we can have more productive interactions online.

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                    Well I do know them. I’ve seen them post here for a long time. I’ve also seen them switch almost immediately from “don’t vote for Biden” to “don’t vote for Harris.”

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      I think its more like when you see somebody step on a rake and it hits them in the face. The natural response is to be like “oh no” . Fortunately these are second hand sources and Walz is hopefully on hand to check some of the more lawyer tendencies when dealing with the public.

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      don’t vote for Harris

      I’m curious to know what Harris stands for and this article doesn’t seem to offer much.

      This country really needs Project 2025, doesn’t it?

      Project 2025 seems bad and I wouldn’t suggest voting for a guy like Vance or Trump, given his support of it. But Harris’s response appears to be to just not talk about policy and campaign without upsetting anybody.

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            They are decided by the per-state popular vote, as I am sure you know.

            Who wins when not enough people per state vote for Harris?

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              They are decided by the per-state popular vote

              They’re decided by an electoral college selected by the party. We’ve seen state governments assert the right of the state legislature to usurp the popular vote by citing Rehnquist’s decision in Bush v Gore. And while you’d like to think this remains a decision in popular hands, Idk how current composition of the SCOTUS will respond if presented with an opportunity to overturn another general election victory by the Democrats.

              Who wins when not enough people per state vote for Harris?

              In theory, its the Big Scary Cheeto (or, assuming another Demolition Ranch subscriber gets within 400 feet of the former Prez, JD “Couchfucker” Vance).

              But if all you care about is Not-Trump, why are you in a thread talking about Harris’s policy? Why take offense at anyone asking? You know who you’re voting for, regardless of what she says, so why are you in here pretending that you care?

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                I am not pretending that I care that people don’t vote for Harris.

                I fucking care because I don’t want a fucking genocidal dictator. Why don’t you care about that?

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                  I am not pretending that I care that people don’t vote for Harris.

                  Then you think you’d care about the nine people who will ultimately decide this election. You’d think that would lead to more calls of “Pack the Court”, “Fight illegal felony disenfranchisement laws”, and “Support universal mail-in voting”, rather than “Fuck you for asking what anyone supports”.

                  Instead, I’m seeing someone who is willing to waltz blindly into another Bush v Gore SCOTUS sponsored upset while screaming “Fascist!” at the Naderites.

                  Why don’t you care about that?

                  The difference between caring about this election and caring about democracy is in wanting your team to win this round and wanting general participation in democratic institutions after November.

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                    It’s not “my team.”

                    Again, I want to stop the genocidal dictator. Apparently you do not. Why?

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          Securing Universal Health Care Through a Public Option

          That’s in the platform, but it appears it isn’t part of Harris’s platform because she’s afraid it might upset people in the private industry.

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            And possibly because it’ll upset the victims of the private industry. MFA is the only solution to the American healthcare crisis. They’ve already sold off parts of Medicare. We need to kill the private health insurance industry or it will keep trying to get us back here