“Calls for targeting the executive team, their families, homes, and places of work using a variety of online and offline means to harass, disrupt, and harm the individuals and the organizations have become widespread.”
I’d argue that this is a non issue that doesn’t warrant additional attention, as it only affects less than 1% of the population.
Instead, do more to combat drunk driving, that will have a bigger meaningful effect on the populace.
I would suggest the cops investigate health care companies so people don’t feel like they have an obligation to do something.
I think a lot, or maybe even most of them don’t really care about effect on the populace, just the effect on the 1% richest of the population. It is sad to see.
Well, I think the majority of cops do care about their effect on their community. And I think the majority of cops originally chose their job because they wanted to protect people.
But our system is deeply flawed and it actively corrupts people in these authority positions. And despite their initial reasoning, the road to hell is usually paved with the best of intentions.
Policing in this country is probably even more problematic than our health care system (which is saying a lot). But it’s not because the individuals are bad; It’s tempting to say that, as it’s such an easy explanation and it gives us clear culprits to point at, but it’s really not rational. I think the true root of our problem with policing ultimately comes down to how our legislation works, specifically that the system isn’t robust enough to resist tampering from private and corporate interests. (And it’s tempting to blame the private and corporate entities, but this is also missing the point.)
While law enforcement does not believe Thompson’s killing is part of a trend targeting health executives, the attack underscores the vulnerability of these high-profile executives.
Yes, very vulnerable people. I mean, not as vulnerable as an elderly cancer patient who’s been denied care, or a working class family driven to bankruptcy by medical debt, but, you know vulnerable to righteous retribution. Except, they’re not really even vulnerable to that, since they have the resources to pay for private security.
You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.
Let’s not warn or threaten, actually; it spoils the element of surprise.
Ideally, the enemy should never see it coming.
You never say, ‘I’m gonna fight you, Steve.’ You just smile and act natural, and then you sucker-punch him
With a Buick
Weren’t the revolutionaries following Bane in that story portrayed as the villains? Because of how absurdly rich this Thompson asshole had become, his murder has struck me, from the perspective of his sons, to be more like the killing of Thomas Wayne in the universe your quote is from. Hopefully we don’t end up with a shit version of Batman, but right now the killer could be more like Joe Chill
What’s that quote from?
Anne Hathaway’s Selina/Catwoman says it to Christian Bale’s Bruce Wayne/Batman while dancing at a party.
Thanks!
Judging from the pay I would say CEO should be one of the most dangerous jobs. That’s the only way the pay would make sense. Let’s make it so!
I thought the killing WAS the warning.
I am looking at another headline right now: “White House condemns using violence to tackle ‘corporate greed’”
When corporate greed is out of fucking control, and nobody is lifting a finger to do anything about it via legal channels, what the fuck else do you think is going to happen?
I’m also amused by how reporting on this has been “We’re trying to work out what his motive was,” when it’s so clear that everybody knows what it was. They are fucking us, every day, and this guy got pushed to his breaking point. The fact that there’s been such vocal support for Claims Adjuster - not just indifference - suggests that a whole lot of people are real close to their breaking points.
This is how revolutions begin.
Yep, and spreading pictures of the guy all over the internet in celebration of his deed has been a wonderful second step. That was truly clever and smart and didn’t help at all his arrest.
Go USA revolution, go!
Just put down that self indulgence, before you hurt yourself.
err didn’t the police put his picture out? you think a reddit post cracked this? last i heard it was a boomer
Yes, good. I love the smell of gaslighing in the morning.
I’m just sorry for the guy, while I do not condone what he did since I’m in a country where usa has license to kill without too many obstacles or consequences (I know, this ain’t narrowing it down much). The mugshots are the pictures of a man who knows he’s finished, done for. Nobody will really help him, and the best part of his life will be in a cell. And those idolizing him are the one who helped get him caught.
Before we knew anything about him, it was just as plausible that he killed the CEO for authorizing payments for abortion. It wasn’t clear it had anything to do with wealth in the beginning
… it was just as plausible …
But was it really?
No, not really.
it was plausible… i am not sure why jeffw trying to make this equally weighted
…meanwhile, back here on Earth:
That’s cute and all. What evidence did you have on day 1?
Only if you ignore what was carved into the bullets…
The bullet casings make it pretty damn clear. If you didn’t know what it was about then that’s because you weren’t paying attention.
Circumstantial evidence made it damn clear!
Jesus it’s like nobody has ever read a crime thriller in their life. This is like chapter 1 misdirection
IDK man his FUCKING MANIFESTO was pretty clear that he was super pissed off at Healthcare CEOs for fucking the people day in, day out.
I don’t agree with the guy, but his first sentence is literally “before we knew anything about him”. Pretty sure that includes his manifesto…
The manifesto that we got the day of the shooting? Care to share that one with me? I’ve only seen the current one
.world mods really are the worst aren’t they?
Insults are fun and all, but nobody seems able to show me coherent evidence as to why there was definitive proof on day 1
People made an assumption that turned out to be correct, why do you want so badly to make a case for something we know isn’t true now? By your same logic, for all we knew on day one, he shot him because he didn’t like the color of his pants. Prove to me that it couldn’t be feasible on day one.
I’m sorry, that’s not the problem. The original complaint was that the media would NOT reach a conclusion. I am defending the refusal to jump to conclusions.
People can speculate, but saying “why didn’t the news diagnose the problem from the beginning?” is an asinine question.
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They’re afraid. Good
“People shouldn’t be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”
I hate that V for Vendetta it’s kind of playing out right now.
I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn’t be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense.
I know, right.
The problem with Alan Moore is that he understands people
“Over the last two years, online activity has indicated a growing negative sentiment around conglomerates, the wealthy, and executive staff at private and public organizations,” the bulletin said. “Calls for targeting the executive team, their families, homes, and places of work using a variety of online and offline means to harass, disrupt, and harm the individuals and the organizations have become widespread.”
I wonder why…
Bitch please. That’s how unions got shit done. The boss made threats? Cops come to beat up and shoot at striking workers? Then the workers show up at the boss’ house and burn it down or beat the crap our of him. That’s how it used to be done.
Exactly
We allowed the centrists to take over, and their hippy “Follow the rules. violence is bad but we’ll back state sanctioned violence” shtick has ruined a century of progress.
I blame WW2, it beat the bloodlust out of the working class.
targeting the executive team, their families, homes, and places of work using a variety of online and offline means to harass, disrupt, and harm the individuals and the organizations
Sounds like what cops have been doing to the poor and minorities since there have been cops.
Wait wait wait, I don’t think anyone should be targeting their families. Fuck the rest of 'em, though.
Just out of curiosity, a quick look on the Forbes “Real-time Billionaires List” shows us an interesting suffix after several of those names: “& family”. It’s an ampersand (meant to be the conjunction “and”) followed by the word “family”.
I’m not even going to read their warning. Law enforcement should shut up and quietly do their job. No one has to talk to the pigs and if they dont show some respect to the public, no one will. So if they want to be professionals they should pipe down and keep their “warnings” to themselves.
I mean, doing their jobs is protecting the wealthy. They don’t exist for any other reason.
This is ultimately the moral failing of the Irish race
/s
Law enforcement is now seeing the line between corperations and people and guess who they have to defend.
ACAB
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It’s almost as though none of these people have read any human history. When the ruling class oversteps, revolution follows. It’s literally how the US came into being so anyone clutching their pearls is willfully ignorant, at best.
I have a risk mitigation strategy for them which ought not to be novel, but sadly seems to be, which could probably bring this risk down to statistically insignificant for most of these people. Don’t build your business on amassing obscene amounts of wealth via trampling the rights and dignity of millions of people who are only one bad week away from destitution and having all they’ve struggled their entire lives to build stripped from them, who have literally nothing to lose when it all goes pear shaped. Consider not only the financial, but the social costs of your actions.
The executive and financial elites of this world seem to have forgotten that humans are animals, and an animal backed into a corner is at its most dangerous, prone to lashing out in unpredictable ways.
Strange how they were completely incapable of understanding this concept when it comes to right wing violence.
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” -Henry Ford
Famous piece of shit Henry Ford.
Pretty sure Henry was just bitching the Jews in that quote.
Not American, but curious as to why you don’t vote for polices that prevent the healthcare ripoff?
I mean, it’s all well and good applauding a single man’s actions, but you all could affect change of there was a genuine will to do so. Other western countries don’t have this problem that you are seemingly powerless to change?
The wealthy own everything. The media, the campaign funding, the concert venues, the restaurants, the farmland, the water, the houses, the offices, the railroads, the textbook publishers. Fucking everything. The only thing our government does well is print more money for the rich.
Healthcare was barely even discussed during the last election. Trump has no plans to improve it and Harris didn’t campaign on it. We can’t just directly vote for laws, we have to elect leaders that would write a bill and vote for it. And pretty much everyone in Congress is bought out by Big Pharma, which has more money than god so it buys elections.
tl;dr the USA is not really a democracy, just as the founding fathers intended.
Even I know that Trump did his best to sabotage the ACA. It’s not a secret. Just vote for the direct opposite of that fuck.
Try explaining that to the typical Republican party voter, though. All they know is “Obamacare BAD!” because that’s the message that has been pumped into their brains non-stop for the last 10 years. When you actually start explaining the specific things that the ACA established they’ll say, “Oh yeah, that seems like a really good thing, we should do that!” They don’t understand that ACA and Obamacare are the same thing.
We are inundated with these sort of low-information voters who don’t understand how their representatives are literally screwing them over while blaming the other side for all their woes.
Not American, but curious as to why you don’t vote for polices that prevent the healthcare ripoff?
Because they aren’t on the ballot.
And when they are they’re so stuffed full of pork that to vote for healthcare you also have to vote for having your bones ground for tomorrow’s bread.
Because they aren’t on the ballot.
Get involved earlier in the process.
Today’s school board members are tomorrow’s city councilors, and they are the next batch of senators, governors , congressmen, and even presidents.
A small number of people helping select candidates and voting can have a much bigger impact in the “minor leagues” of politics, and can shape the future direction of the country.
Get involved earlier in the process.
Things are as you like them, but now it’s my fault.
There are several (very simplified) factors:
- the parties in power won’t fix voting so others can join in proportionally
- the parties in power are mostly guided by the wealthy (often via corporate influence), just with slightly different flavors
- many of our citizens are one or more of poorly educated, uninformed, radicalized, and selfish
- the wealthy tend to support policies that keep them wealthy and the electorate controllable
What is vote? We elect people, not policy. Then those people get purchased by companies, and they do whatever is best for the company.
In the end, it doesn’t matter whether you vote for people or policy then. If you are going to be shafted anyway it doesn’t matter.
However, as I said in my original post, this seems to be a very unique problem in the Western world. Other first world countries vote for people and policy and our experience is somewhat different.
Lmfao. “Western problem” sure buddy. The “east” is doing so well. Russia, china, North Korea… they’re all known for their “fair voting.”
Get off this east vs west lie and get down with blaming the global oligarchs. They’re all playing the game and they’re on the same team—the one you’re not on.
I may have been unclear. If so, I apologise for it. I meant out of all the First World countries, the US (the richest country on the planet) has the worst health care outcomes.
Comparisons outside of the Western sphere, particularly with communist dictatorships, won’t really work.
Yes we have terrible healthcare. We are very very very aware of this.
Not meaning to needle you, Mate. Once again, if I come across as a jerk, sorry.
Because we are powerless to change it.
The corporations have lobbied (bribed) both political parties so hard that both sides work for them.
Any attempt to change the voting system gets shot down because the people in power don’t want to change the system, because it benefits them. Why make the game fair when it’s rigged in your favor?
Half the country is brainwashed into thinking any social help or reform is socialism (which is pure evil! Helping others is evil!) and a trick from the inept party to try to gain political influence. And the inept party just fails to deliver on any sort of reform because they want to appeal to that brainwashed half of the country.
Any grass roots effort that makes any traction gets shot down by the establishment, usually by rileing up the brainwashed half.
We WANT the change. But even if we could get the brainwashed half to vote for it, the system is so rigged and broken even if we did vote it in they would veto it or change it in two years.
A lot of people on the right have been duped by those taking advantage of them for profit, making them focus on the left somehow being evil through the targeting of identity politics. Many are just now waking up to the fact that the talking heads they trust have made their worth by dividing us.
It’s all thanks to oligarchs and using their money to buy out policies from lawmakers while making their constituents stay angry elsewhere. Our whole system has been fucked for a while, unfortunately.
Because America is not a functional democracy but rather an oligarchy driven by the will of the elite.
Somehow people were voting for the republicans to fix healthcare. Yes, it’s true.
The second thing is that US legislators have about 40% yearly profits on their investments. So they are very incentivized to make things better for the owning class. Or at least not make it any worse.
Warn my ass
Delay, Deny, Depose
The one pecent’s days are numbered
They were supposed to be numbered back in '12. I was so wrong.
The difference this time is people want blood.
I don’t blame em, do you
I’m one of them.
The problem is that the rich are happy to offer up blood, that’s the fascism. They’ll spill rivers of the stuff so long as not a drop is theirs
