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    I’m deadly serious here as a British person … what the fuck is wrong with you people? Your country’s been taken over by a fucking fascist, and half of you are clapping like seals.

    This is disgusting, and you need to know we don’t see you as two political parties over here. We see America as America. You’re all doing this.

    Stop saying but the right wing and fucking do something about it. If it was here, we would have hung them all by now.

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      If you want to get real about it, the short answer: it’s too early.

      If you look at every successful ousting of a corrupting party in modern history, it never starts with pitchforks or guns this early. Start too early, and they have a reason to suspend the laws in effect that are slowing them down. In essence, if one of them gets killed, thousands of US citizens are killed, or worse, just to prove a point.

      Second, you have to allow them time to erode any popular support they may have. As noted above, going too hard too early gives them a chance to pull a Hitler and do a “SEEEE??? WE NEED TO STOP THEM ALL!!! I WAS RIGHT!”. Not the best place to start when something like 30% of the population may be diehard (literally) supporters. Shit will go south for everyone super fast.

      Lastly, every element in this group is already doing the hard part for the rest of us: proving they are absolutely incapable of running a country. The more that people see this and come to understand and detach from that alignment is a good thing.

      The bad part of all it: it takes time. Just making a dramatic point isn’t going to change minds. Allowing these woefully incapable and idiotic pieces of shit to ruin an entire country’s lives may unfortunately be what it’s going to take before the military folks step away from them, their supporters, businesses, and as much as I fucking hate to say it, his billionaire buddies who all belong in prison right now. They all need to detach from that teat first before any meaningful and drastic movements can be made.

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        That’s actually a very good point mate I think he might already be aiming for the ss bit faster than you can react though might have to do preemptive action to at least slow the process.

        One thing I feel is lacking is an organised resistance I see aoc on tv and it looks great but the rest of her party are mostly shit.

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          Why do you think he pardoned all the J6 people?

          He plans to deputize them at some point and let them run wild. He won’t try to invoke military control at first, because every nation that has the ability will wipe them out faster than they can react. Again, these people are dumb as hell.

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      As a US person, all I’ve wanted to do is kill myself or do something drastic while doing it.

      Why haven’t I? I don’t want my life to be a giant politcal statement. I don’t want to be responsible for the millions of people in the US, and the billions around the globe. I don’t want to make a mistake and inadvertly ruin my family’s life. I’m a 20 year old college student who was naively interested in electronics, only to see the tech industry is just as vile as real life.

      I’m scared, I’m anxious, and I’ll admit that I’m a massive bitch. I guess I leave this comment behind because I don’t know what to do with these feelings, but I know that if I keep playing ignorant and stay silent that things will only get worst.

      If this were to happen in England, I’d hope you would all hang them too. But I would understand if you don’t, because we’re all human, and I’d still like to be empathetic in these very hard times.

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        So fucking fight go to marches leaflet do all the legal shit and if any one tells you to stop beat the shit out of them killing your self over fash cunts is stupid stay alive to hurt them more the longer you live the less people turn to fashism you have a job to do soilder don’t fucking quit the fight just started

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          Just wanted to add to this I’m a 3 tour vet with PTSD I’m done now mate if this happens here I’ll hang them myself it’s a.soilders job not yours

          . Yours is to change minds one at a fucking time if you have to make them see it

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        I legitimately am bad ass in fact I’m very bad ass I once did a really cool jump on my bmx and all the girls wanted to kiss me after

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    Per the report, “One mother who was about to be deported was allowed less than two minutes on the phone with her husband to figure out what would become of her 2-year-old U.S. citizen son,” while one of the other mothers “wasn’t allowed to speak with attorneys or family members before she was deported, accompanied by her U.S.-born children,” despite ICE agents knowing the child had stage 4 cancer.

    I’ve got no words.

    Every single individual involved, from the lowly ICE agent “just following orders,” all the way to Trump and his Kapo Stephen Miller, needs to see punishment for this shit.

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    People ought to deny ICE service for a start. Anyone in their vicinity can contribute and nothing is too small.

    If they want anything from you, it’s your duty to make sure they can’t have it.

    If they order a sandwich, they should be told the sandwich maker is broken today. Every day. If they need a car repair, that part will take six months to arrive. When they pay for electricity, their payment was misplaced. Their garages should be blocked by parked cars. The garbage truck should accidentally drive past their property again this week. Etc.

    Don’t be an ICE collaborator.

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    Damn, how do you deport a kid with cancer and not even pause to think of you’re doing the right thing

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          Deleting your account if that wasn’t TORposted

          Instead of real activism I might just keep reminding ourselves, everything we do online should be considered posted under our names + emailed to Cashmoney Pawtel, subj line: “domestic terrorist 👇”

          Wonder when soft bottomfeeder commenters like me will get Gitmo’d (CECOT’d). First they’re coming for Kilmar & the Palestinian grad student, next…

          (I’m really milquetoast I just can’t imagine free speech is going to last very long even for privileged birthright citizens with birthright parents)

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            Oh I fucking hope they try. I wonder how they’re gonna do anything when half their enlisted are on the “domestic terrorist” list? Not just junior enlisted, but NCOs? Officers, too. JOs, upper brass. Who’s gonna maintain the carriers? Navigate the submarines? Maintain the jets? Transport the ammo?

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                That’s my experience at least, at my previous commands and my current command. It might differ by service and command, of course, but multiple service members I’ve spoken to from other branches seem to agree with me; again, this is all anecdotal, so take my word with a grain of salt.

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      When the time of reckoning comes they’ll say “We were just following orders. We’re so sorry!”

      But right now they say “We’re following Trump’s orders! America, fuck yeah!”

      And they don’t think, they don’t empathize. They only feel their side of the story.

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      Well, that kid’s mom had tattoos, which makes her part of a criminal gang. If the kid didn’t want to be deported, they should have represented themselves in court.

      Is a thing that I’ve legitimately heard reich-wing proto-nazis say.

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        Hey now! There are plenty of nice ghouls. Gob is great! Republicans are feral ghouls.

        Edit: on a side note, I used to have a perpetual kitten that chose her name. The name she chose was Mikey Wazowski

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      They do what the average conservative everywhere does: Convince themselves that most people secretly agree with what they are doing. They truly and honestly believe over two thirds of the country want them to do that.

      That’s why they keep talking about conspiracies involving someone controlling elections, the government etc. because reality doesn’t match up with their views. And they don’t think they can be wrong, so they conclude that it has to be some shadow organization that is going against the people.

      It’s also why they keep talking about themselves as if they are revolutionary fighters going against a great evil.

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      Thoughts like that require both a conscience and intelligence and 47 lacks both and more.

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        Trump isn’t the only one acting. And most of the foot soldiers were already on the job and just daydreaming about when they could really get tough. They need to be doxxed and recorded so they can be punished for their crimes one day. No “amnesty to let the nation heal” or “just doing their job”. There needs to be consequences.

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      Deporting the kid contributed to a statistic that they are publicly presenting as positive action, which is allowing them to cling to power. That’s it. That is the banality of evil.

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      It’s easy - you just have to be a psychopath.

      Like Trump, Musk, Vance, Homan, Noem, Rubio, etc., etc.

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      Obviously because the child with cancer is just a drain on national resources and he’s doing the country a favour.

      /s for me, but I suspect that this is how he rationalizes it. He does love Hitler, after all.

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    I had to click the article just to see what that thumbnail is about. A shallow bowl of liquid with a glove floating in it?

    It’s so much worse than that.

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      Hatemonger much?

      Birthright citizenship in the United States is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution

      And it gets worse:

      one of the children has a rare form of metastatic cancer and was deported without medication or consultation with their treating physician, despite ICE being notified about the child’s urgent condition. This follows last month’s ICE deportation of a family including a 10-year-old American citizen with brain cancer.

      edit: sorry, I had to remove the heartfelt direct insult. It really slips out easier when you’re typing online as opposed to IRL 😳

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      Read the article, the thumbnail is a picture of a migrant, the children are US Born and thus citizens

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      Funny, their lawyers say otherwise:

      according to the lawyers, their families weren’t given a choice, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers stalled their efforts to make arrangements for the children, ensuring they would be sent away with their mothers.

      Now, who is more likely to lie… multiple individuals who have zero connection to each other, or an administration which has been caught lying before and is headed by a convicted felon.

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        multiple individuals who have zero connection to each other

        Exactly, it’s not like we’re paid protesters linked to the Soros hive mind.

        /s

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      Yeah, bro, ICE gave the cancer kid’s mom a whole two minutes on the phone to figure it out and graciously kept her from wasting her time with an attorney who’s only going to do woke shit like drone on about rights and the constitution. Like we ever really cared about that stupid lefty crap, right, bro? THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR SAVING US FROM “DUE PROCESS” AKA THE WOKE MARXIST MIND VIRUS MAGA!

      /s because satire is dead.

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      Per the report, “One mother who was about to be deported was allowed less than two minutes on the phone with her husband to figure out what would become of her 2-year-old U.S. citizen son,” while one of the other mothers “wasn’t allowed to speak with attorneys or family members before she was deported, accompanied by her U.S.-born children,” despite ICE agents knowing the child had stage 4 cancer.

      according to the lawyers, their families weren’t given a choice, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers stalled their efforts to make arrangements for the children, ensuring they would be sent away with their mothers.

      So… Can you refute the accounts of this happening, or are you just slurping down orange dick and gargling out an excuse for it later?

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      You don’t question the shit you say when the only upvote you get out of almost a hundred people is yours?

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          It’s Lemmy. You’re literally out here supporting orange hitler and supporting the most cruel politically motivated persecutions and relocation of people on behalf of the US since the slave trade ended.

          Turns out, the fediverse is not a monolith.

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          You actually think that you’re the only Lemmy user who is “like you” and that everyone else here is a communist?

          Talk about a persecution complex.

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      That’s not the point; we shouldn’t be deporting people at all. Full stop. Have a little empathy and remember that these are human beings we’re talking about.

      Edit: I don’t even know why I’m wasting my breath. I checked your comment history, most of your posts have more downvotes than upvotes. No sensible person could be proven wrong so many times, yet still continue to post ignorant shit, not without some self reflection after awhile. You’re clearly a troll.

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          Having an anchor baby shouldn’t be an issue, either it stays or it goes

          ‘It’ is a thing. The word you are looking for is ‘they’, because those “anchor babies” are humans, and US citizens.

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            Dude immigrants are like the most patriotic people - literally uprooting their lives to come here and work to achieve the american dream - and still the Con’s want to kick them out rather than naturalize because they can’t recognize brown people as humans.

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              There’s a selection bias there, but yeah. If you want to get rid of anti-Americans, look no further than the people ripping up the constitution, or the feckess thumb-sitting cowards in Congress who are watching it happen but won’t remove the perpetrators because they put party membership over their oaths of office.

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            Kaboom and other reactionaries hate their fellow citizens more than anything. It’s why he’s an authoritarian: he thinks conservatives should be able to tell people how to live by force of law.

            When they pretend to care about rights and liberty it’s just a smokescreen to hide their real passions: bootlicking for oligarchs and imposing white supremacy.

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              There’s always time to think about the human beings who have done nothing wrong, before you post next time.