President Donald Trump on Wednesday acknowledged that his tariffs could result in fewer and costlier products in the United States, saying American kids might “have two dolls instead of 30 dolls,” but he insisted China will suffer more from his trade war.

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    If he understood anything about his electorate, he would know that it would be a choice of 1 meal a day instead of 3, if the rent is still paid.

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    What is trump now? a buddhist? How is a child with 30 dolls suffering? unless they are suffering from too much happiness.

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    “The american people will suffer but china will suffer more.” So hes hurting us to hurt them? Great job dumbass.

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    but he insisted China will suffer more from his trade war.

    Even if this were true (which is dubious) this doesn’t make me feel any better. That would simply make this a Pyrrhic victory.

    What is the point of any of this? Oh yeah, cruelty is the point.

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      The point? I think he expected the world leaders to come bearing personal gifts and favors. Trade some of the US’s global position and power for his own personal wealth and power? I don’t have proof, but it would be on-brand for Trump.

      He’s also surrounded himself with yes-men and crazy people (e.g. Navarro). He clearly has an elementary understanding (at best) of economics. Money good. China bad. Money go to China bad (trade imbalance). Tariffs keep money here.

      Combine all that with the fact that he never admits responsibility for anything. When China pushed back, he retaliated. When they stopped participating, it leaves us in a stalemate that I believe will hurt us a lot more than them.

      So, I think the trade imbalance is the justification. The goal is likely just personal power for Trump. But he doesn’t really know what he’s doing, doesn’t care to learn, just thinking he’s the greatest being in existence and everything bad is not his fault.

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      Nah, raising a shitload of money fast for tax breaks to pay off the billionaires who handed him the presidency is the point. Cruelty is why idiots would vote for this

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    Except the kids aren’t getting 2 dolls. They’re getting dragged out into the middle of the street half naked in the middle of the night because the brownshirts can’t even read an address correctly when they’re casually disappearing whole families.

    Why the fuck is this even reported on. Fuck this whole system, down to the author that thought ‘ya that’s worth making an article’

    Don’t buy your kids dolls. Buy them fpv drones.

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    What about the kids who were lucky to get 2 dolls prior to the trade war? Shit outta luck I guess.

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    2 dolls instead of 30 works out to a reduction of 93.3%! That’s HUGE. If that’s supposed to be his positive spin on things, Americans are truly fucked.

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      It really shows that he doesn’t care about Americans, he cares about punishing and attacking people that he doesn’t like. That is all that matters to him, and he doesn’t hide that. He doesn’t want to make things better, he wants to make people suffer.

      The fact that he has supporters is absolutely unfathomable to me. Then again, those same supporters want to punish the same people he does, so it starts to make sense.

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        He wants to punish Americans more than probably anyone else. Americans had the nerve to laugh at him when people joked about his hair, or makeup, or physique. Americans did not elect him in 2020. Americans allowed him to be forced out and didnt fight back hard enough when Biden “stole” the election. Americans allowed him to have some minor inconveniences when they put him on trial, raided his house for classified docs or made him take reaponsibility for his actions. Americans are going to pay because he knows nothing other than vengence for percieved slights and Americans allowed them all to happen

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      That’s the real statement. Instead of 30 dolls it will be 2, but that translates to food supplies, too. Instead of 30 dinners in a month, we’ll only have 2.

      In the year after Maduro took over Venezuela, the average citizen lost 40 pounds.

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    Cause American girls were getting 30 dolls every Christmas.

    This guy is such a psychopath that he doesn’t even understand how Christmas gifts work.

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        If a dollar is good, then lots of dollars is even better. To him, toys are like currency for kids, so when he wanted to buy a doll for Ivanka or Eric, he’d give them 30 of the same doll, rather than a bunch of different toys.

        Jr just wanted his daddy’s love, which doest exist, so he was shit out of luck.

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        113 American Girl dolls would be expensive as shit though - I think with all the accessories and accoutrements you’re looking at the price of a decent used car. The newer models are also shittier (less history focused, because Mattel lol)

        The books though - they went hard. There was an entire series about about an enslaved girl who escaped to the north with her mom (I wanna say Addie?). Felicity, the American Revolution girl, stole a horse and got told what the consequences could have been (like, iirc it’s like “yeah you could have totally been hanged for that stunt.”)

        I was too broke for the dolls, but if you have a kid - the books are A-tier children’s historical fiction.

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      Not sure man, my vehicle threw a rod and I am struggling to find financing to get a used vehicle until I make the money to figure out a long term solution. Partner checked FB marketplace because I don’t have an account, I checked Craigslist, and the dealers near me can’t seem to make a loan work with $1000 down on vehicles listed at $15k. Found one car selling for under 10k, but it has 95k miles and everything online seems to say it has a 135k mile average lifespan. So when you don’t know how the people before you drove it, and it’s got a 3rd party exhaust on it, I have to assume my extremely (55-60 mile) drive to work will leave me stranded on the side of the road by the end of the year still owing money on it unless I scrape the barrel everywhere in my budget and somehow sell it for nickles in 6 months trying to trade it in for something half way better. Maybe I can get arrested when I become homeless and die in jail instead of on the street.

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        Go to credit unions around you and apply for a loan yourself. You shouldn’t ever rely on dealerships to find financing for you. Interest rates are awful right now but with your commute you need something reliable and fuel efficient (like a Camry or Corolla).

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          Yeah, I was hoping to finance a 2018 Subaru Crosstrek with 70k miles on it. Out the door was ~18. They shot that down pretty quick. I’ll figure out something, didn’t see any decent shape Toyotas around, small town

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            It’s definitely worth driving an hour or two to a bigger city to buy a car there. What I’ve done with the last several vehicles I’ve bought was to stake out TrueCar.com, find the models I’m interested in, and then watch them over a month or two to see what is and isn’t a good selling price (crossreferenced with info from KBB.com).

            Once I’ve found one that seems like a good deal, I then applied for loans online with local CU’s after comparing their rates. Once approved, I headed to the dealership to buy the car, though if you’re driving a great distance you may call ahead to make sure they have it. It might also be worthwhile to find 2 or 3 other vehicles that are good deals so that you have a backup if the first doesn’t pan out.

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          The last time I was looking (~6 years ago), banks were unwilling to offer and very judgmental about my request for a loan on a used car. They said loans were for new cars and the bank isn’t a replacement for a little financial know-how. I only went to two banks and one credit union, because I got tired of being condescended to, but the dealership said that they hadn’t heard of used car loans from a bank before (could be a lie).

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            That was absolutely a lie from the dealership. You can apply online at most places now to save yourself some time. Many places even list their loan rates broken down by the type of loan (48 month new car, 60 month new car, 60 month used car, etc) so that you can compare rates without even filling out a loan application.

            You might also check your credit score with Credit Karma, or your credit card company, or bank to see where you sit (these will be Vantage scores but should be close to the FICO scores used when applying for a loan) just for some more insight.

            Shop around to see who has the lowest rates and then start applying. Once approved you can then walk into the dealership to actually buy a car and even used your pre-approved loan to negotiate a better rate with the dealer since they get kickbacks from banks. Also be sure to never negotiate based on the monthly payment, just the total price of the car because they can really screw you with interest rates and term lengths to make your monthly payment seem low while you end up spending more overall when negotiating based on monthly payment alone.

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            I absolutely have used a credit union loan to finance a used car. They had rules…less than ten years, 85000 miles or something, but definitely did the loan. At the time anything under 7000 was considered a personal loan and had a higher interest rate.

            Good luck.

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              Yeah, it’s very possible that I just hit bad luck with the banks and the dealership lied, or maybe it’s location dependent 🤷

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        Maybe I can get arrested when I become homeless and die in jail instead of on the street.

        Do it quick, lest you end up in a foreign death gulag to top it all.

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        Why are you looking at dealers? Plenty of Camrys and Accords out there. They will do 400k miles easy. Ask private seller if they’re willing to do a inspection, find a mechanic that’ll do one for you and then meet at their shop.

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        Only those that can’t weather huge price hikes, lack of public service, and defend against supposed federal agent just robing them out.

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    Even if this were true, a policy that hurts everyone isn’t sucessful just because someone else suffers more than you.

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      When your worldview is completely transactional, and you believe that literally everything is zero-sum, then you do view that as successful.

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          No, see, you start with the assumption that everything is zero-sum, then you look at the other guy to see suffering and conclude that you must therefore be winning.

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      If your suffering is negligibly small and your opponent’s – critical for him, then you can demand something.

      Imagine a war where all sides are losing soldiers but one side is winning.

      But in the case of China I’m not sure who will suffer more in the long run.

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        But in the case of China I’m not sure who will suffer more in the long run.

        Consumers in both countries, as it always is with tariffs.

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          I doubt that Chinese customers depend much on imports from the USA. They might feel the overall slowering the economy until China finds a new destination for its goods, but that’s it.

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            Well, they need work in factories which produce goods for the US customers. If no one is going to buy those goods, these people will be out of a job.

            src

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              until China finds a new destination for its goods

              Yes, but the USA isn’t the only market. It was convenient because of its size, but nothing irreplaceable.

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                You realise that the companies that will no longer want to produce in China because of the tariffs will move to India or Vietnam or literally anywhere else? Kinda like Apple and Samsung are doing.

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                  And? Some will move, others – won’t. Moving industry is a huge deal. It isn’t easy. And most companies understand that the problem is not China but Trump. Today Americans are required to pay additional taxes for Chinese stuff, tomorrow they will pay for Indian stuff.

                  Maybe you have some real numbers to analyze?