Morons.

  • guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    Duped? Fucking shitbags.

    Nobody was duped, bamboozled, tricked, or swindled into voted for Trump.

    People knew what Trump was about and chose that.

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      For real. The photos and videos with and quotes about Epstein, the interviews with Stern talking about walking into changing rooms, grabbing 'em by the pussy, all this existed outside of the Epstein files.

      He bankrupted business after business but stayed afloat by being a con-man, and red-state suckers flooded his rallies to juice up on his low IQ rhetoric.

      Now he’s filling his vault with cryptoscam cash from his idiot base buying memecoins and third-rate junk watches, so that his insipid sons can continue the family business of groping, scamming and conning. Trump has replaced Reagan as the new face of the GOP and they LOVE it, because they get to say how much they hate immigrants out loud.

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      7 days ago

      They’re shirking responsibility. It’s typical. They gloated the whole way about knowing exactly what they’re vote for.

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    6 days ago

    Also, I don’t know why so many dickheads talk about “upending” things. It takes a lot to have large complicated working systems.

    Any old asshole (or even something as simple as a virus) can “upend” a system. Why is that a value in itself I will just never understand.

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    6 days ago

    I don’t believe that. Anyone dumb enough to vote for trump thinking he would drain the swamp is way too dumb to ever realize he’s been duped.

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      6 days ago

      Yeah but the pod cast Bros are waffling a bit and that’s where they get their cues from.

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      7 days ago

      I mean, they complain about a “male loneliness epidemic” that they themselves have created by being deplorable pieces of ahitm to women and minorities. They can get fucked.

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        6 days ago

        As a gen z man who did not vote for Trump, supports the rights of people, and generally is a good person to those around me - generalist arguments like this are poison to your goal. Blaming every man from 14 to 29 (depending on who you ask) is only going to succeed in alienating those men who are not going to be unreceptive of your actual point.

        Age, skin color, gender, sex, sexuality, whatever the combination - blame people for what they do, not the circumstances of their birth.

        The Trump voting neo-nazi chuds can get fucked. Don’t lump young liberals like me in with those cult of personality dicks with lazy generalizations, please.

        • Nomad Scry@lemmy.sdf.org
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          6 days ago

          As a millennial male who did not vote for Trump, supports the rights of people, and generally is a good person to those around me - men are generally terrible. I kinda think that, if you can’t recognize this truth, you aren’t as good a person as you think.

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            As a Gen X male (I prefer the term Oregon Trail Generation for those of us close to the cutoff) I echo your statements.

            But on top of that, I think there’s obvious context here that we’re talking about the dummies, not 100% of males of the generation.

            The comment that started this subthread was like a funny sarcastic comment I could hear in real life. Something like “I read about how male gen z trump voters feel duped by him” followed by “well it sounds like male gen z trump voters have bad judgment, lol!”

            I don’t know if that kind of retort is a regional thing or is uh, how do I say this, one of those things that you learn when you are raised by angry conservatives whose primary form of communication is complaining about other people.

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            I reject the notion that men are “generally” terrible because generalizations are lazy intellectually bankrupt ways of othering swaths of people in a way that revokes any ability to fix the real problems.

            Men aren’t terrible inherently, it’s the overblown importance paid to stoicism, acceptance of low emotional maturity, ALIENATION LIKE YOU’RE DOING RIGHT NOW, and poor societal/cultural frameworks for men to seek the help they need that make a lot of men terrible. Men aren’t terrible, but the cultural understanding about what men are and do needs to change.

            Fascists are terrible because they choose every day to be fascists. Men are capable of being terrible the same as women - blame people for what they can change and do not, not what they can’t change.

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            6 days ago

            men are generally terrible

            George Floyd was generally terrible?

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    7 days ago

    Yeah, no they ain’t. They wanted this and they are happy they got this. Everyone is fucking miserable except those pieces of shit.

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    7 days ago

    USA today is a rightwing propaganda rag and this is rightwing propaganda

    “my peers aren’t country club conservatives” shut the fuck up you are literally writing for the largest syndicated colonial newspaper network

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      7 days ago

      'member when we thought “grab em by the pussy” would definitely do the trick and open some eyes? I… Yeah I totally thought that at the time…

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      8 days ago

      I mean it’s not like there was a concrete example of him promising to drain the swamp and shown concrete proof of his results before, how could they have known…

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      Not really an excuse but it’s pretty common to be politically naive when you’re young. When Obama was first elected I just figured we’d immediately solve climate change and all get free healthcare and community college. I didn’t really understand how the political system worked.

      I imagine many of these people thought the same way. And they may have been too young to really follow things during Trump 1.

      So yeah… I wish they had been more savvy but we all gotta learn somehow. I’m willing to forgive if they end up on the right side after this.

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    My peers are not your rich country club conservatives. They are scrappy guys who liked Trump because he wasn’t polished or predictable. To them, he was a rebel outsider who would fight “the swamp” with all he had. I remember heated lunchroom debates where they’d argue about whether or not he could truly upend our system and its backers.

    What a bunch of fucking losers.

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      7 days ago

      It’s funny because trump is literally about as much as “the swamp” as you could be. Born with a golden spoon, socialized with only the elites, and personally fucked over working class people literally every chance he has.

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      It is weird because I have a similar scenario, but they voted for Trump because they’re all playing entirely within framed, false choices.

      Like, one coworker voted full R because that’s what they’d always done like their parents and community always had and that was that. Always had, always will. Policy wasn’t even on the board.

      Another went for Trump because they genuine want to see government fail, even as a government worker, because they think the Federal Government is the Evil, and the States are the shining beacon of Freedom.

      Platitudes and messaging strategies meant nothing to them. Or at least it didn’t in 2016 or 2020. I don’t know how they went 2024 since I’d left that job.

      But since then every job site I go onto with active working class labor, its just MAGA hats and bumper stickers… and/or immigrant workers. Usually they’re being set against each other by company owners who enjoy both groups lacking unions and legal protections.

      The system that needs upending is the private company boss, not the government. The bosses are the ‘backers’ that need upending. Government is the last vestige where the public actually has a say.

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      8 days ago

      “Predictable” is quite literally the one quality you want the leader of the biggest military on the planet to have.

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    8 days ago

    I’m thinking if they saw Trump’s record and still voted for him, this isn’t gonna be the first time they get duped.

    • Jesus@lemmy.world
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      IMHO, people hyper fixated on the first couple years of Trump 1 where the economy was ok, he had experienced government officials putting up guardrails, and he coasting on what past administrations put in place.

      They thought Trump’s was blowing bow air and they thought they were going to get 2017 again.

      They are not getting 2017.

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          8 days ago

          I wouldn’t be surprised if, given the rich disinformation landscape in America, covid was destined to be an utter shit show in the USA.

          Trump sure as shit didn’t help.

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    8 days ago

    Weird, they were old enough to remember he didn’t live up to that campaign promise in his first term and just ended up swamping the drain even more. Did they think he was just going to do a total about face on his corruption in his second term?