• ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world
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    We apologize, but your web browser is configured in such a way that it is preventing this site from implementing required components that protect your privacy and allow you to view and change your privacy settings. This functionality is required for privacy legislation in your region.

    We recommend you use a different browser or disable the “EasyList Cookie” filter from your “Content Filtering” settings (found under “Settings” -> “Shields” in the Brave Browser).

    I don’t know what CNN did but fuck them until they allow me to see their site with my current cookie restrictions.

    Fuck CNN

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      I like the judge, but 20 hours a week wouldn’t teach anyone how hard it is to work in the service industry.

      will have to work there 20 hours a week

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        Sure it would. 20 hours all over the place makes it really hard to schedule any other jobs or whatever (which they often do on purpose specifically to make it harder for you to find something else to reduce your availability), so it’s about as accurate as you can get knowing full well in 2 months you can return to your normal life…

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        Seems like a typical shift for fast food workers. They don’t want them to be full-time and eligible for any kind of benefits.

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        The manager probably wouldn’t give her more anyways if she was a full time employee so they could avoid paying for benefits.

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    How will the logistics of this work? Are there fast-food restaurants that would accept a privileged Karen with anger management issues as a member of their team? After all, they have a business with tight margins to run, and this sounds like a huge liability.

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      Free labor, and keep her away from customers. Cleaning, prepping, whatever. If she causes problems, she violates probation and serves the rest of time in prison. Give the store an incentive to deal with her. With thin margins, I’d take those odds. Fuck threatening to fire; if you fuck up, you go back to prison. “Now clean the damn fryer’s like your freedom depended on it”

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          It’s battery, and the fact that she thought it was a reasonable course of action means that she needs to be given a bit more than a slap on the wrist fine.

          I know people might say anger management therapy would be better, but these types of people will never admit that they were in the wrong in the first place. They’ll twist things into a persecution complex.

          Making her walk a mile in their shoes is an exceptionally good way to address this kind of behavior, and it’s an alternative to jail time.

          But, it’s not like she would be given years in prison for it. It’s basically like a forced timeout. Hell, even 2 weeks in jail might be enough to change things.

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          She isn’t going to prison. She is getting jail time. If she were that concerned about her 4 kids, she shouldn’t go around assaulting fast food workers.

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          If this is how she treats people she doesn’t even know, how do you think she treats her kids?

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      Many, many fast food restaurants are super short staffed because no one wants to do the job at the current market rate. If she actually tried she could find one in a day.

      Also, fast food margins really aren’t that tight.

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        As long as this is only for this one case I’m ok with it, but I really don’t want to see this become a trend to force people to work for these companies who are unwilling to pay willing workers a sufficient wage.

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          It was an optional punishment that she chose over doing 90 days in jail. I don’t fear it becoming a trend since most people don’t assault fast food workers in the first place.

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            Yeah, but even as an optional punishment, and punishment for a crime shouldn’t be made to benefit corporations.

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      The article says she has yet to find the job.

      Good luck finding someone to hire you for only two months as punishment for abuse. I’m sure they’re scrambling for predetermined extremely short term employment from a toxic pile.

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    On the one hand, I like this, but on the other hand it’s bad if judges are handing out other people’s every day life as a punishment

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    Some little leagues have a similar rule. If a parent verbally abuses an umpire enough that parent must umpire a certain number of games to see just how hard it is. Punishment fits the crime perfectly.

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      My kids little league tried that, lasted a game before they realized that having a biased ref that doesn’t know the rules doesn’t make for a fun experience for the kids.

      One of those sounds great in theory things, which is why it’s probably such a popular fallacy to spread.

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        Ah that sucks. I guess I should have seen that coming. Some people just won’t learn =/ I wish there was a better way to prevent these parents from ruining the game for everyone.

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          Kick them out, and if it becomes an issue unfortunately the kid may need to go to so everyone else’s experience isn’t diminished.

          Hopefully the parent learns after spending money on a few.

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    Everyone should be forced to work a service industry job for at least six months when they’re teenagers. It helps you develop a healthy misanthropy

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      Absolutely my first job was fast food, and I had no clue the level of entitlement of some people. Some people treat fast food employees like they’re not even people.

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      That sounds like a way for service industries to exploit their workforce even more; if people have to work them, then competition for those jobs would rise, especially during non school hours. Plus, if school is any indication, kids would put it basically no effort if they have to work there and cant just be fired (and if they can, what happens if they are and therefore cannot complete the six months?). I dont think itd really reduce the entitlement either, itd just become “Ive done my service work so I’m entitled to act however I want, kid!” from those kinds of customers anyway.

    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I’ve always said that if I were elected president, I would institute mandatory retail service instead of mandatory military service. Doesn’t matter if you’re a kid in high school or a ceo making seven figures, everybody has to do their time at some point. Either it would cause world peace or nuclear armageddon, and either one would probably be an improvement.

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        I’ve said this, except you have a choice:

        You can do retail, hospitality, or health services (eg cleaning hospitals, very basic patient support, anything that requires minimal training and won’t do harm to any patient in their care).

        I am a Service rep and my mum was a nurse, so we’ve both seen a lot of the worst of humanity. I think people need to extend more empathy to nurses and other medical staff - I understand for many patients, it’s a horrible, scary situation, but these people are (generally) there to help and have to deal with a lot of awful stuff every single day.

        More patience and empathy in general would make for a much better society.

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          Damn right. I worked at a fish market for over a decade and there’s a reason that jobs like active duty military and bomb defusal rank below all three of those jobs you listed on the scale of most stressful jobs. People are assholes day in and day out to these kinds of people who literally keep our society running and keep us alive.

          Any time I’ve been in the hospital, my motto has always been “If crying, screaming, and pissing myself will help, let me know and I’ll be the first to do so. But until then, it sounds like a whole lot of effort to make everybody’s day worse.”

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      I get my misanthropy outlook from having a horrible childhood and teenage years. I’d hope I would’ve been exempt when I was a teen.

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      That honestly wouldn’t even be too hard to implement, just roll it out as a mandatory credit for HS graduation and done lmao

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    Her attorney, Joseph O’Malley, said his client had no criminal record before the incident and that she is truly sorry for her actions that day.

    “Let’s give her the opportunity to not let this one day define the rest of her life,” he told CNN.

    Righhhht. No way she always treat fast food (and other services industry) employees that way, and this is just the first time it escalated to court.

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      She’s likely a cunt, but why ruin people’s futures when you can have teachable moments, this sentencing is brilliant and should have been a bit longer.

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        And let’s not forget she’s also spending a month in jail before being released to work fast food.

        What she did was horrible, but she’s definitely not getting off free.

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      This is part of a plea bargain. She had a choice of three months in jail or one month in jail and two months working a fast food job. She had a choice between a “normal” three month sentence or this “unusual” sentence.

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      One could make the argument that working fast food is less cruel than spending 3 months in Jail. If you claim that fast food is worse then she kind of deserves to make that realization herself.

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      Ive been thinking about jobs everyone should have at least for a week.

      For sure, everyone should be a server.

      So far, my list also includes a cashier, a janitor, a teacher for a rowdy class, a bus driver, and a old person caretaker.

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    now that’s justice

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    Gilligan told CNN he’s not sure Hayne is as sorry as she claimed to be in court, pointing out that she was still complaining about the food during the hearing.

    “She still has not picked up that this is not appropriate,” Gilligan told CNN Wednesday.

    “You didn’t get your burrito bowl the way you like it, and this is how you respond?” he told Hayne during the hearing. He suggested she’s not going to be happy with the food she’s about to get in jail.

    I like this judge.

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      Gilligan told CNN he thought about the possible unusual sentence a couple of days before the November hearing.

      “Every time you watch the video, it makes you more and more upset,” he said. “I was thinking, ‘What else can I do rather than just have her sit in jail.’”

      I didn’t know judges could do this. This seems amazing and I love it.

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    that’s brutal… serve quesadillas with a smile or go to jail… we need a film crew to follow this saga daily…

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    I mean it is good that she is going to have to see what it is like to work fast food. But I feel so fucking sorry for her co workers. It is going to be hell working with this Karen. And she isn’t going to be there forever so she has no incentive not to be a jackass.

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      Oh, there’ll be plenty of incentive in a rider on that sentence if she doesn’t meet the standards the judge sets .