While Kremlin propaganda feeds Russians fairy tales about “great friendship” and “strategic partnership without limits,” Chinese media calmly discusses exactly how those limits will be redrawn. Not someday in the distant future — but when Russia collapses. And according to Chinese authors, preparations should begin now.

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    17 hours ago

    I know you’re all pigs feeding at the trough, but please have some self respect.

    NetEase is a video game platform.

    The author of this article never links to the article and I can’t find it anywhere.

    The author of this article never names the author of the article he’s supposedly writing about. He just keeps saying “the author”.

    He’s writing about something that is negative for Russia, as a Ukrainian “journalist”, reporting on what is likely a random gamer doing the same bullshit armchair strategizing that you goons do on a regular basis, without citing a single thing and without backing up any of his claims.

    “Chinese media” isn’t discussing anything. This is not journalism. This is pure slop.

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      I’m not sure that’s really what’s happening. The plan is specifically for when Russia collapses. I fear that this might make the job of any more democratic successor to Putin much harder, because the worst way to start a new government is by having a large part of your country taken away.

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        Fair, but also exactly what happens to empires in general when they stumble. That’s been true since the dawn of civilization, and for Russia herself in 1917, then in 1991.

        Russia’s case is particularly bad, because outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg, people seem to be very meh about being part of Russia, despite propaganda making it seem otherwise. I think we got the best indication of it when Wagner marched to Moscow without any significant resistance, cheered on by significant parts of the population.

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    18 hours ago

    I can’t wait for the tankie support of imperialist china. I’m not gay but I kinda enjoy watching someone suck their own dick.

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    Putin has driven Russia in a really bad situation. His army is currently unable to conquer Ukraine. He lost most of the old soviet stockpile of tanks, airplanes and equipment. It looks like his air defense is broken and Ukraine is bombarding his refineries on a weekly basis. And he has lost so many people. We can also guess that the majority of his army and his air defenses are currently in Ukraine.

    If China really wants to take russian land there is not much that Putin can do against it except to use his nuclear weapons.

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      Winnie doesn’t need force. He simply can use his economic power.

      If he simply puts a full embargo on Russia Putler would be done within a year.

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      except to use his nuclear weapons.

      Which might not be properly maintained. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        Might‽‽‽ I can almost guarantee those were the first casualties of the corruption that is endemic in the Russian government and military.

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        i rember this scene of the Chernobyl mini series:

        "Ah its only 3.5(unit of radiation) we don’t need to worry!

        But the testing device they had could only go as far as 3.5… The actual level was around a factor of 100 or so…

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      And that’s just the military perspective. Economically, things are unlikely to look much better.

      I think it was another clever move by the Chinese: Russia’s abandonment of trade with Europe has made it very dependent on China. Sooner or later, they will be able to pick up the pieces - bankrupt assets at bargain prices, so to speak.

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    Wonder if Japan has a chance of reclaiming its (never formally ceded) Northern Territories (“Kuril islands”), or whether China will occupy them specifically to prevent this.

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      Good choice. The author claims there’s an article somewhere in China that someone wrote. Never links to it. Never names the author. It read like fanfic.

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      They’re not gonna fight. This one is over before it started, Russia is already well along the path to becoming a Chinese client state.

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        I also make jokes about climate change. Not because I don’t think it’s real, but because I am powerless to do anything about it and humor is my sole way of coping with anything.

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        WW3 is USA against China. This post is about the contingency plan to prevent the US from controlling China’s northern border.

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            But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard

            That would be America’s worst nightmare.

            They look like buffoons right now but I think it’s all strategy to prevent people in Europe from questioning the armament. The European leaders know or we would negotiate differently.

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            That seems a bit of a stretch in terms of geopolitical cooperation, and if we are going off nuclear arsenal concentrations and overall military budgets, it would likely end up with the majority of WWIII’s damage coming from the US and China regardless.

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              Oddly I could maybe see Trump siding with Russia and the EU siding with China.

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    External powers — the US, Japan — will try to intervene, but the Shanghai Cooperation Organization will “diplomatically fence them out.”

    You overestimate how much we care about Russia, its territory or the people. The answer is: not that much.

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    I guess you already know what I, as a German have to say regarding Kaliningrad/Konigsberg -

    Tap for spoiler

    Please keep that shithole for yourself, we don’t want it

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      Fun fact: Russia offered Königsberg to Germany in the 90s. Germany declined. They offered it to Poland next, which also declined.

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        Is it because as soon as you have a large concentration of Russian people in a territory, that leaves a Causus Belli for Russia to attack you in the future under the guise of protecting their people?

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      If, however, it is cleansed of orcish contamination, the topology of its bridges should be restored to what it was in Euler’s time, and it should be placed on the UNESCO world heritage register as such.

      Other than that, making it Czechia’s Baltic port sounds sensible.

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    I doubt that China will try to break up Russia. I do think that China will aim to establish long-run Russian dependence on China.

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    If Winnie The Pooh could do us all a solid and stop supporting Russia for a goddamn second, they could easily take over the 1M km2. What’s Russia going to do?

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      While china sides with russia, china still wants russia, Europe, and the US draining money and resources in Ukraine and not paying attention to Taiwan or its other territorial ambitions, including lands it previously lost to russia

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    This is a contingency plan. China must be interested in maintaining Russia as a buffer at its northern border.

    Doesn’t the author know that the West is doing the same in Ukraine?

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      How can you even say that? There’s no link to the article in question, if you search for it online the only things you get trace back to this author and this article, and there’s no attribution .

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          This is a contingency plan

          It’s not a contingency plan at all! It’s likely a try-hard post on a gamer forum.

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            I mean it in the sense that China is not actively planning to carve up Russia.

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        A systemic rival who could use it as a staging ground like they used Iraq’s neighbors. Using Korea alone would be too defendable.