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    Religion is a mental illness. Not adjacent, similar to, nearby, but full-on delusion.

    And also by far the greatest threat humanity is facing.

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      …leads to dangerous behaviours, feelings of invincibility, superiority, delusions…and worst of all: it’s contagious and spreads through speech and culture.

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    My dad is (was?) one of these. The dissonance was one of the reasons I rejected religion - their Bible tells them to be good stewards, but when asked why he supports stuff that harms the environment my dad’s excuse was that the world was ending soon and only those who didn’t get raptured would even be impacted by it.

    I checked, the Bible doesn’t contain some “shit on the environment if the world is ending soon” clause or exception.

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      That’s the thing about the Bible, it says whatever the Christian wants it to say for any given situation and doesn’t need to be self consistent

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        Their book tells them that humans have dominion over all other forms of life on the planet so good luck with that

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    People who believe in prophesied apocalyptic events should not be in positions of power, because they have a tendency to try to make those prophesies self-fulfilling.

    We need separation of church and state, but we also need ways to establish an expectation that religious institutions will at least not promote beliefs that directly go against established science and reason.

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      Agreed. Now how do we go about achieving that when a good chunk of the country thinks not Christian=evil Christian killer?

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        I think that things like this can really only be approached with a long view in mind. Progressions and regressions are always happening. We’re going through a rather massive regression currently, but any belief system that refuses to change according to actual facts is basically at war with reality itself, and doomed to failure by their own inability to adapt.

        As far as an actual approach, it should be social allelopathy. There’s a good reason this christofascist regime is so bent on attacking education - it’s because their crazy beliefs have a tendency to dissolve under any scrutiny. The more we can provide robust, truthful education to all, the more it buffers people, if not necessarily to atheism, at least to religion that can coexist with common sense.

        And that goes for religious institutions to. Support what you believe. If you’re atheist, there are groups who organize around that.

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    I love running into these people. Hell isn’t scriptural and it’s easy to bring the receipts. They are cultists, so you won’t change their mind, but they will never forget you or how you knew their fake religion better than they did. I always hope that a seed planted in their diseased minds eventually sprouts, but it’s still fun to give them a solid intellectual wallop.

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      I grew up in it, and I love when someone realizes that I know more about their bullshit religion than they do.

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      Hell is scriptural, according to the scriptures…

      Unless you’re referring to the name “Hell” of course, which is not in the Bible.

      A place of burning and suffering for all time? Definitely scriptural. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, where the worm dyeth not.

      I’m not a Christian, but I do have years upon years upon years upon years of Bible studies.

      Bring those receipts! The garbage dump explanation will not suffice (Gehenna)

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        There is no god. Also, no devil. No heaven, no hell, no angels, no demons.

        You can also have years of flat Earth studies, and every other religion that will claim anything as well.

        It’s you who have to provide the receipts.

        Can your god regrow a single fingertip? Deflect a single .22LR round? Just by 0.5mm?

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          You misunderstand, it’s not my God, I don’t have one at the moment, but I am accepting applications.

          My “receipts” are their claims, collected in the King James Bible (one of many interpretations; not even a complete collection of claims really). I’m able to show what they claim to be true, not the actual truth itself.

          I was responding to someone who said they had receipts for their claims (that Hell isn’t scriptural), why would I need to provide any? My receipt is the KJV, which is scriptural.

          I’m not making the assertion, friend, but I am responding to an assertion.

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    Really have to wonder why these people can’t just you know go find a compound somewhere and make some special Kool-Aid or something. Why do they got to drag the rest of us into it?

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      The way the religion is presented to them ties it very purposefully with actual history which, for many of them, gives it all the authenticity needed to believe the crazy shit.

      That fact is important because it’s also why they won’t leave us alone, they think the entirety of mankinds existence revolves around these end times ideas and indeed their beliefs REQUIRE there to be non-believers that suffer for rejecting it.

      It’s really dumb and upsetting

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      Those were revolutionary communists. The left.

      These christian folks are the right. They prefer to murder brown people than kill themselves to bring about awareness to class struggle.

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        It’s not that simple, a substantial amount of Christians are “left”.

        Jonestown is the most infamous example.

        In short, Christian preachers will gladly take ANYONE’S money, regardless of their political persuasion.

        Why not? It’s tax free!

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    This guy literally can’t do anything wrong

    Makes everything great -> obviously amazing leader

    Fucks everything up -> this guy will save us from the fucked up world

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    Do these clowns not understand that by wishing trump start their armageddon that it makes him the antichrist?

    They are following and encouraging the antichrist?

    So yeah, y’all talibangelicals going to your hell.

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      They’ve been saying it pretty much since about 30 seconds after Christ died, and I’m sure they’re all just a reskinning of even older apocalypse myths.

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        I remember when the rapture was supposed to happen last year. I remember when 2020-2022 was to be the end. I remember when 2012 was the end times. I remember when 2000 was the apocalypse. I remember multiple other years prior to that saying the same thing. There are books in the Bible that talk about it happening soon and they were made canon centuries ago. The monopoly on wanting the end isn’t even Christians’. Just this month I saw a video advertised on youtube still pushing that Nibiru collision nonsense that pops up every year or two. None of these people know anything about the end of the world.

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      “You will know not the day nor the hour,” says this instruction manual to life they keep referencing when questioned about their weird behavior.

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        Right. They are acting like they can just summon it like it’s some DnD ritual spell. The Bible literally states otherwise.

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          What’s worse are the rich, out-of-touch fucks who should know better, are so narcissistic and so afraid of death. What they fear about it, is that the world will continue on without them. They’d rather the world end when they end. As far as they’re concerned:

          • The world as we know it did not exist prior to their being born into it.
          • The world was made for them and their descendants to enjoy. All others are expendable tokens to spend as they please.
          • If they are mortal, then the world should not continue to exist after their deaths.
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            Oh, like Peter Thiel and his little plasma addiction and preoccupation with the antichrist ? Like that dude didn’t make his deal with the devil. He has as much chance as going to heaven as a camel walking through the eye of a needle. No wonder he is trying to live forever.

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              Metaphysics notwithstanding, he’s narcissistic to the point of believing that he’s “one order of magnitude above human”. The rest of us? We’re the first stage on the rocket. He not only wants to live forever, he wants to live above we mere mortals, free of all our petty needs and desires. This world is his playground, his toy; created for him and other billionaires like him. And if he and they can’t have it, then, they’ve ultimately decided nobody can.

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          Dumbasses. Everyone knows the spell for kickstarting the Apocalypse is found in the Book of Vile Darkness, not Exalted Deeds.

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      They been saying it a lot longer than that. The 7th Day Adventists, who own all the hospitals in my area, are a Mormon splinter group who followed a guy who had calculated the exact date of the end of the Earth, and that was way back in the late 19th century. He kept re-calculating and moving the date.

      End of the world predictors have been around far longer than that.

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        They’re a Millerite splinter not Mormon when the Millerites imploded after multiple failed predictions it created several new religions, the biggest two being being Jehovah’s witnesses and Seventh day advenentists. They came out of the same religious spring as the Mormons and Christian scientists for example but are more or less unrelated outside of being nominally Christian. There used to be more groups from that era but most of them were Christian socialists and were more or less all killed off by the 1950s.

        Sorry about the pedantry but my kin have been fueding with the fucken Seventh Day Adventists since they moved into what is now Loma Linda California back in the early 1900s.

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        There was big end-of-the-world hysteria when the year 1000 was coming up. And dozens of dates after that.

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          It was a pretty big deal in 2000, too, with Y2K. It wasnt the literal end of the world they were afraid of, more like a computer end of the world, but it turned out to be as overblown as Y1K.

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      Yeah, but now they found a fool capable of leading them there for lulz.

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      Well, I’m about to join them

      The nuclear clock is closer to midnight than it has ever been in all history

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    Well, I would not object to those assholes getting raptured any minute now. Less mess and more housing available.

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    As someone who grew up with parents who believed the rapture was constantly about to happen, this is really not newsworthy at all. The predicted date shifts a couple of years each time another one passes by without anything happening. The most original I thought was some date in 1998, because that’s 3 times 666. But really, it’s just a random number from some swindler, usually.

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      It’s newsworthy because these people are in power in the US, and starting major wars and attacking sovereign nations on several continents.

      Not all of them believe the people who come up with dates, my parents just go by vibes and stupid shit that they see as fulfilled prophecy.

      Just don’t ask them about all those prophecies that were fulfilled back in the mid 90s when they were certain Jesus’ return was just around the corner. Or about all those same prophecies that were fulfilled again in the early 00s. Or about all those same prophecies that were fulfilled again around 2008. Or about all those same prophecies that were fulfilled again in 2016. Or…