Reddit seems to have introduced sitewide AI moderation bots that are sweeping up users and outright banning them, without warning or explanation, for crimes like including links in their posts. This has started to hit some pretty well-known artists in r/comics.

It’s inconsistent and unpredictable - which makes it worse, since you don’t know what the rules are. As companies like Reddit give up more and more control to unaccountable machines, this kind of thing is getting more common.

Reddit has always had kind of a strange relationship with contributors and what is often called “self-promotion”. On one hand, it wants Content… But it can’t seem to decide where it wants the content to come from.

It’s nice that we’ve got alternative spaces like this.

Anyway, have some links:

  • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl
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    Reddit crappy automoderation had been known in the Spanish speaking communities for years.

    “Negro” in Spanish means black as the colour, but the AEO may interpret it as that some countries who do not usually speak Spanish may use it as a racial slur.

    This is no joke, once they auto-ban me for talking about how a black coloured wall would hide the grime better.

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    meanwhile they cosy up to advertisers and introduced hiding post history so no sane person can tell whether somone is a bot from their history.

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      Something like 90% of reddit users are bots. I wish i could find the link but someone did a little investigating and that is the number he found. They also found that most the new users are from India.

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        and which one are propaganda bots from israel, russia, palintir , and then you have actual human ones using bots to drive traffic to thier own site/OF, theres a forum for that its easier to gauge this one then the propaganda ones.

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    So, honest question, if creators want to ditch Reddit, where do they go besides here? Fediverse ain’t that big yet.

    For comic artists, there already seems to be a decent and growing community here. I’m a musician. There is (used to be?) a vibrant community on Reddit for songwriters, home recording enthusiasts, amateur producers…and it was a good place to network. I won’t go back to Reddit for any reason, so where do I go? Those communities here don’t have enough users to be active. I’ve tried.

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      I’m sharing my stuff wherever I think I can find an audience… Reddit will be included until it becomes untenable. (I exclude Xitter from that because I don’t like Nazis.)

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      Don’t think on a where to go permanently basis. Just go where your target people are, forget about how a specific platform gamifies their algorithm. Subscribers and followers, upvotes don’t matter in the slightest anyway. Make sure, instead, to always refer people to a place where they can engage directly with you. Either listening to your music, buying it, buying merch, or getting some interaction. But don’t put much stock on platforms, it’s there for the corpos, not for you.

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        In short: just make another reddit account, because this is where most of your readers/viewers are.

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          Unfortunately, yes. Each person has to establish their own ethical framework for what they consider proper or not. But there’s no two ways about it. You either show up on the place where people gather, or no one will know about your thing. A good way, for example, is to make it clear that the main channel is the fediverse, mastodon or whatever. Like I said, have a hub somewhere everyone can arrive to and know immediately where to find your stuff. There are degrees of interaction, you don’t have to tie your entire private life and existence to one account in one platform, but you don’t build a community sitting alone in your own bedroom, no matter how comfy and ethically safe it is. You have to go outside and meet people where they are.

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            Hm… You know, dustyData, that really explains why so many projects now have a Discord server as their primary channel.

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    always send them a link to the fediverse instead of trying to fix a broken platform.

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    oh my god I missed it on my first scroll, I can’t believe you’ve done this

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    This is shit, yet their banning people has always been inconsistent and unpredictable without knowing why. I got banned 3 years ago with absolutely no explanation why - just “your banned”. When I did the auto-appeal I just got a response “sorry, your banned.” Never a word as to why so fuck Reddit.

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      My latest account just got its first warning.

      There’s a pretty horrific story this week in the UK about a guy with a severe mental disability who threw a child into a crocodile pen at a wildlife park.

      Someone said they think anyone who does that should be put in front of a firing squad.

      I replied that we shouldn’t be shooting disabled people. I got a warning for implying exactly the opposite of what I was arguing, while the original comment (which I reported after getting my warning), is still up 48 hours later.

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      the bans from last year are worst since thier use of AI has been introduced, they dont give a reason at all, for the sitewide bans. and then switched to shadowbans which are even more nebulous. AI indiscriminatedly bans too, plus even if you were unbanned from a sub because originally if enough time lapsed you could potentially comment in a sub again. but they were looking at “previous offenses too” in all your accounts.

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    That’s why every day, I look up a random reddit admin or employee and masturbate to them. I am doing my part to bring change to this world. If more people followed this example, we’d have more change in the world as the Earth turns where it stands, unless you have a long enough lever to pull it.

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    Got a three day ban by the automod, just because I referenced a joke Russel Howard made on taskmaster, where he (and so I) used the words “yellow peril”.

    So just mentioning those words is apparently racist…

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      I got banned for saying “what’s this bitch’s address, I’m going to drive over there and kick her in the cunt”. Regarding Johanna Harrer, a nazi doctor who wrote books about abusing babies to make them compliant. She’s been dead for 38 years but I’m banned for threatening violence and trying to doxx her and using the c-word. I’m not going back.

      I mod a very very niche emotional support forum, as a community service. It’s been absolutely blasted with spam since they went to AI moderation. The whole site is structured and run by volunteers. I don’t see them coming back from this.