This move is right out of the Trump business playbook. He’s been not paying workers and committing fraud against contractors his entire adult life. Avoiding the payout was the plan from day 1 when the bonus was offered–I’m betting Trump himself recommended this outcome. Fuck ICE. I hope every agent experiences bankruptcy and hardship. They ruined their lives to serve a child-rapist.
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Look, when I signed up to work for an agency that deports people to countries they’ve never been to, I was fine with it cause I was gonna get a lot of money. Now that I’m not getting that money, I obviously have to vote even harder for the assholes fucking me over because the brown people are the reason I didn’t get paid, not the president who routinely doesn’t pay people. This post was sponsored by the Heritage Foundation or some shit.
Not only do these idiots get what they deserve, but it’s also hilarious that Trump is scamming and turning his most hardcore supporters against him
They’ll still be voting for whatever republican is on the ballot
Because they’re stupid
They are single issue voters, oh sorry you already said stupid.
I doubt they’re against him. Somehow its Bidens fault or Obamas fault or Canadas fault
If only there was some way to predict …
Well the current admin did promise to cut down on costs and actually letting them keep their bonuses would be a huge cost.
This is Awesome! Best thing I’ve seen all week.
I take two things from this:
- The guys they are attracting are so incompetent that they can’t make it through their probation period.
- They either are generally incompetent, or not savage enough. One of these is funny, and one of these is deeply concerning.
Secret third thing: they never intended to keep them in the first place, and it was a scam the whole time. I doubt 1 or 2 are even plausible.
It’s not a secret third thing.
As soon as we heard that the signing bonus was related to a probationary period, everyone who knows anything about how Trump does business said, “Nobody is getting that bonus.”
It’s extra shitty if they paid it out up front and now the employees have to pay it back, but none of this comes as a surprise.
It would be shitty if it happened to nurses or firemen or something. This is fucking hilarious.
Iirc, it was a taxable 10K per year for 5 years. If they were let go, they had to pay back the full, untaxed amount.
It’s extra shitty if they paid it out up front
It does, in fact, seem like that’s the case
It’s only the case because Trump is using taxpayer money and not from his pocket. If he had to personally pay the signing bonus they wouldn’t get one even if it was promised. If Elon wanted DOGE to actually do it’s job they would impeach Trump.
As soon as we heard that the signing bonus was related to a probationary period, everyone who knows anything about how Trump does business said, “Nobody is getting that bonus.”
This is a single instance posted with little to no detail in a thread that loves to promote any kind of rumor of a reactionary experiencing hardship.
So, consider taking it with a boulder of salt.
No source. No supporting details. It’s just Lefty Forward From Grandma as far as I’m concerned.
Just a few
The bonuses are doled out over 5 years in $10,000 increments. Student loan forgiveness (who are we kidding… these guys didn’t go to Yale) is similarly spread out. Both are at the discretion of supervisors.
Basically, these imZmoral blobs are going to get screwed and I’m fine with that. https://bsky.app/profile/zuzuspetalsmi.bsky.social/post/3m3o62kdems2r
Oh don’t worry they put a bunch of restrictions on those bonuses too, they’re not going to get them. It’s all just BS for recruiting.
https://bsky.app/profile/zaclivinglife.bsky.social/post/3m3oflejyus2r
I suspect that the signing bonus has a giant asterisk next to it and most of them are never actually going to see it.
https://bsky.app/profile/cardboardrevolution.com/post/3m3ppilocac2f
And the direct reply
It literally has an asterisk next to it on the recruiting website.
https://bsky.app/profile/bamamontana.bsky.social/post/3m3qze5fk5c2o
To all ICE agents. He will be gone one day and you won’t have Noem’s skirts to hide behind. We are not going to forget and are going to demand Nuremburg style trials for you. Oh and that 50k signing bonus? Never going to see it
https://bsky.app/profile/tjjohnson.bsky.social/post/3mcfrfg43yn2i
Everything they do is a scam, so this tracks
it was planned 5 year in to get the bonus, they fully expect the next president to immediately fire, ro downsize the agency.
the cynic in me thinks it’s more just that they have impossible quotas. since many of them are coming in with the idea that the country is bursting with illegals, they think they will reach those numbers easily but then find that no, actually like we’ve been telling you, they’re mostly here legally. So they fail to make their numbers, are marked as poor performers and wash out. The smart ones would have put that signing bonus into a HYSA but I doubt their that clever.
Could be a neat way to wash away student loans. Use the 50K to pay off student debt, Fail on purpose, declare bankruptcy to dismiss the signing bonus debt.
Anyway, I don’t think it has to do with their conduct or competency they got played using the old MLM scheme. can’t deport illegals when all the illegals and even questionable have already been deported. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes as they like to say.
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Don’t get me wrong they’re def pieces of shit, but a piece of shit with a major quota can be extra shitty because of stress. Like starving and beating a street dog. It’s already prone to biting. you just made it snap faster.
also even if there are illegals out there , they wont be announcing or showing themselves. they will be mostly in Hiding.
Could be a neat way to wash away student loans. Use the 50K to pay off student debt, Fail on purpose, declare bankruptcy to dismiss the signing bonus debt.
That’s fucking genius. No way they are thinking that deep.
- they are mostly unhirable anywhere.
Basically just like the Nazi Brownshirts when they outlived their usefulness.
Now we just have to wait until they do something stupid and then get officially disbanded.
Well, what I want to know is, were these people fired because they weren’t brownshirt enough? Then it’s just cleaning ranks for the most loyal and extreme hires to come in. This is what it seems to be, since the people being fired are due to failed “background checks” or “poor performance”.
It’s almost always a case of both, but it’s likely that the US Govie has more elite fanatic troops they deem sufficient.
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awww. poor babies just wanted to shoot brown people, and now they’re getting fired?!
The craziest ones are the brown people that signed up
The best they could possibly do is lock down the wife and kids of the couch f*cker.
That’s the craziest part, all these sociopaths in power have immigrant wives or parents, with Trumplethinskin being the prime example.
There’s good immigrants ans bad immigrants.
The good one are rich enough or protected by people in power till they stop please them.
The bad one are everyone else. But hey… The neat part is we include the white one.
DEI Racism
Even better, they’re getting un-paid the money they already spent on a Cybertruck.
Remember, my friends, this is still part of the scam. Now they will file lawsuits, paid for by you and I, the taxpayers, and they’ll get partial bonuses paid out in the end.
Exactly. This is one of those things that I do not understand how Trump has been getting away with for more than 50 years. He rarely, if ever, pays his workers. Yet he keeps finding new investors and workers all the time. Most people who are unable to pay a single payment have their credibility fucked for a long time. But it seems to do nothing to him.
It will probably be a class action lawsuit which famously really pays out the lawyers more than the actual plaintiffs. Just another way to grease the palms of the rich.
You cant sue the government, or use class action litigation
Meh. Fuck 'em.
I thought they didn’t get the money until they reached a milestone, like 3 years later.
Aren’t signing bonuses explicitly an early in the job sort of thing?
Yea that’s normally how it works, but the news was reporting the fine print of some who signed on not getting their bonuses until they’ve met a 3 year minimum or having to pay it back. Like with anything Trump, the money was never real.
Right right, but this was advertising language. In reality it was a one-time performance bonus, but they called it a signing bonus to trick people into joining.
The problem ICE lawyers will have is that if they call it a signing bonus, maybe the fine print doesn’t matter, because people reasonably believed that it was one… So my prediction is a class action lawsuit. Although that will be interesting because there are limits on what federal employees can sue for. We shall see.
Legaly speaking, if your employee has comited crimes during their work, can’t you ask them to give back even more than just the signing bonus?
I am quite sure ICE keeps informations on their ex agents…
Yes but isn’t it normally expected for you to stay for more than 3 days rather than taking it and fucking off?
Normally yes but I think they weren’t actual signing bonuses. To be honest, I read somewhere that some were quitting because they were afraid they would never get the bonuses, but I neither remember the source, not its veracity. But a lot of times it’s Lemmy.
It’s in the name
They fucked themselves so hard. Yeah anyone can figure out free money with terms is basically a loan. They fuckin’ did it to themselves though.
https://www.l4sb.com/blog/the-devil-is-in-the-details-homeland-securitys-ice-bonus-program/
Where’s the article?
It’s related to that ice guy who killed himself after he was fired.
This is the only thing I could find that brings to light the repayment.
https://unitingnow.substack.com/p/ice-agents-are-reportedly-being-fired
took his own life in the parking lot of ICE’s Philadelphia field office just days after receiving his termination notice.
He took “termination notice” seriously
This is just pure hopium… It’s mostly Americans happy that something “was done to the fascists, yay” when in reality it’s all bs.
Newsflash Americans; you’re actually going to have to stand up to the fascists eventually!
Part of the story in that one.
If you’re in the market for a used pickup, I bet you will have a lot of options real soon.
Sooo many white Dodge Rams! 🤣
Its Raptors around here
Probably has enough drugs spilled onto the seats to set off every ATF dog in a 50 mile radius :D
