It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice and then think that soy is affecting their hormones.
It’s completely wild that… Husbandry exists? That we eat other animals? That we rot liquid food to drink it? That we use bacteria to curdle milk?
Hot bean juice!
I’m on your level. People get really weird about milk despite the fact that the majority of people consume animal flesh on a daily basis. Milk is way low on the weird food scale.
We’ve been eating animals a few million years longer than drinking their milk. (Lactose intolerance is far more common than generally thought.)
Take another look at your map there, because it backs me up.
Here’s another, lactose Tolerance (notice Tolerance with a T) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance#/media/File:Lactose_tolerance_in_the_Old_World.svg It shows pretty much only Northern European heritage, iffy if you’re southern European, and pretty much everyone is out of luck.
… I’m aware. I linked the map lol.
You said if you’re Asian. It’s not only if you’re Asian.
Your comparison is stupid.
@idiomaddict talks about cow milk and soy milk, yet you go on a rant about how “cOw MiLk iS nOrMaL?!!”.
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So conservatives are not people, or I misinterpreted your comment?
Not conservatives, regressives.
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Its not. There are real conservatives who vote democrat/independent and always have. Regressives are always wasteful and intrusive fanatics unlike a genuine conservative. They might not agree with someone but don’t waste their time trying to shove their worldview down someones throat. Just like a lot of people claiming to be woke also do. Both groups are intolerant and annoying.
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Not really. All you hear on either side of this morass is the squawking fanatics. The fact you think real conservatives are rare is really sad. Its why the false ones need to be labeled regressives. By playing their game you alienate people who otherwise would be an ally.
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Definitionally identical
It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice
Yeah.
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The problem is that they give the cows growth hormone and high amounts of estrogen to encourage lactation and it’s in the milk. I’m lactose intolerant like half of adults anyway so I do almond milk and olive oil butter personally.
the fda has found no significant difference in milk from cows treated with rBST
source: it came to me in a dream/random food package i read
None of those chemicals are allowed to be present in the milk of cows lactating for human consumption. They test the milk for those chemicals at the dairy. If any trace amount is found, the whole tanker is dumped as contaminated.
That doesn’t make any sense. Estrogen wouldn’t even make a cow produce more milk. Are you confusing Estrogen with Prolactin? (which also isn’t given to cows, but would at least have the effect you describe)
I don’t know where you live but I have never ever heard about giving estrogen to cows to force lactation. Just as a reminder, cows produce milk after they got a calf.
By drinking human hormone juice and getting their hormones messed with. It’s good and helpful for babies.
The really funny thing about this is OP is egregiously wrong.
Soy doesn’t contain estrogen, it contains phytoestrogen, which not only doesn’t produce any estrogen-like side-effect, but actively prevents our bodies from taking and producing estrogenic hormones.
This is all very ironic, considering drinking
excessivecows milkleeches calcium out of our bones andexposes us to a smorgasbord of hormones not designed for humans.Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.
If soy did do this, red states would be trying to regulate it so trans people couldn’t buy it.
Doesnt cowmilk also actually have estrogen in it? Making it even more ironic?
This leeching effect is not true. It’s a myth spread by alt-health providers.
I haven’t totally believed this, but I also think its potentially useful to spread anyway. Sure, misinformation is bad, but so is climate change. Which one is worse?
Misinformation is always worse in the long run.
If people find out you knowingly lied about one thing, they’ll assume you lied about other things that are more important, regardless of evidence.
Climate change being an excellent example of this where it wasn’t so much lies as bad guesses and so many people dismissed it despite the growing evidence.
If you let your boss bully you into explaining what a soyboy is, you are in fact a soyboy
he brought it upon himself when he called a coworker soyboy first
It’s phytoestrogen, dummy Anon.
Fragile bros terrified of phytoestrogen in soy will be chugging dairy milk without a single concern.
All my dairy milk comes from bulls.
Is that why my milk has been so salty recently?
Pffffffffft
Cackling in the bar bathroom now, thanks
What kind of degen poops at a bar!?
The drunk kind
Yep, that tracks.
It is a badge i would wear with honor, because soy is awesome and the myth is bullshit.
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Cow milk is full of estrogen and growth hormone.
As far as i know hormone concentration in milk is strictly regulated
afaik, it’s not really a myth. it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens and it’s often recommended as a supplement for HRT. Probably not enough to have much of an effect on its own though
it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens
you think because it has “estrogens” in the name it turns you into a girl. phyto- means plant. are you a plant?
recommended as a supplement for HRT.
by who? facebook?
Exactly. It has a similar name in one of the ingredients. But: this ingredient is not estrogen and it basically has zero impact on the hormones in your body. And all experts know that. That’s why there’s no scientific papers supporting this whole soy / estrogen theory.
but you see, the whole of Asia is made up of just women so that proves it! /s
by who? facebook?
You know what I’ve been seeing on Facebook lately (qualifier, I use it for my local village group and those last few friends that refuse to use anything else)? People posting the fact that the AstraZeneca vaccine used a modified chimpanzee adenovirus and implying this is the cause of the mpox business.
I would 100% bet they got it from Facebook!
I think I remember a 4chan post with the supplemental thing, might originate from there instead idk
I expect the soyboy stuff originated on 4chan. But I would believe the “evidence” for other people commenting about it is also on Facebook.
I mean on Facebook it kinda makes sense that the crazy rises to the top. The normal people limit their posts to friends only. You can spot the crazies. They have all posts set to world visible.
I dunno, just mentioning what I’ve heard before, hence the ‘afaik’
False, the phytoestrogens in beer are far more bioavailable, but also the animal estrogen in beef.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
Its basically been proven as bullshit, physiologically if you are healthy its not true. There MAY be edge cases where if you are lacking the vitamins/minerals/essential fats necessary for hormone regulation it MAY in SOME people cause SOME irregularity but edge cases are just that.
Meanwhile cow milk is full of estrogen because it helps the cows to lactate.
Phytoestrogens and estrogens have some similarities in their chemical structure and ability to bind to estrogen receptors, but they have important differences in their effects on the human body:
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Estrogens are hormones produced naturally in the body, primarily in the ovaries in women. They are essential for sexual and reproductive development and function[5].
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Phytoestrogens are plant-derived compounds that have a similar chemical structure to estrogens and can bind to estrogen receptors, but they are not hormones and are not produced naturally in the human body[1][4].
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Phytoestrogens typically have much weaker estrogenic effects compared to human estrogens like estradiol[1][3]. The effects of phytoestrogens depend on factors like the specific type, dose, and individual differences in metabolism and estrogen levels[2].
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Consuming phytoestrogens from foods like soy, flaxseeds, fruits and vegetables is unlikely to have a significant impact on estrogen levels or health, as the amounts are very low compared to what the body naturally produces[4]. Concentrated phytoestrogen supplements may have more noticeable effects.
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In some cases, phytoestrogens may actually have anti-estrogenic effects by blocking estrogen receptors or reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]. This is thought to be due to their structural similarity to estrogens.
Some potential benefits of phytoestrogens that have been studied include:
- Reducing menopausal symptoms like hot flashes in some women[1][3]
- Improving cardiovascular health markers[2][4]
- Reducing risk of certain cancers like breast and prostate cancer[3][6]
However, the evidence is mixed, with many studies finding no significant effects[1][2]. Potential risks include:
- Blocking estrogen receptors and reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]
- Interfering with thyroid function in some cases[2]
- Potential effects on breast and prostate cancer risk, though the evidence is inconclusive[3][6]
Citations: [1] https://herkare.com/blog/estrogen-replacement-therapy-vs-phytoestrogens/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/ [3] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/648139 [4] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320630 [5] https://advancedhormonesolutions.com/do-you-know-the-difference-between-phytoestrogens-and-estrogen/ [6] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [7] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763421005558 [8] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/phytoestrogen
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Nut milk comes from male cows.
Tf is a male cow?
It’s a ballistic bovine which makes a ‘whoosh’ sound while overhead.
I never know what to make of these posts like this because it seems like Anon is okay with laughing at themselves
I moved to a rural area a few years back and there’s a lot of farms here. Thus, many of the people I’ve met are farmers or have worked on farms. After a year or so of asking people what they raise/grow on their farms it finally happened and I met someone who said they grew soybeans. I asked him if he was a soyboy and he was really not amused.
I’m pretty sure he saw it coming too, when he said soybeans I had to have a huge shit eating grin on my face. I was waiting for that day
Omg do they really believe that?
There are people who do.
And anon’s boss actually did exactly the thing you’re supposed to do when this happens irl.
Make them explain it for the group, and then socially ridicule them.
Just bully that fucking nerd. Maybe a swirlie, depends on the workplace culture.
Always thought soyboy is a way to condecendingly refer to a JavaScript developer. Because you know, beans.
Hard to stay on top of all the internet lingo.
We have way worse terms for Javascript devs. I’m not allowed to say them though.
What do beans have to do with JavaScript? I am familiar with Spring beans but that is Java, not JS.
See, what his coworkers did was good bullying. Anon learned something and also wasn’t fired for whatever skeevy pseudosexual thing he was implying about his coworker, probably over politics. Winning hearts and minds, people.
On that day, anon found out he really is a soyboy soyjack. Did he learn anything else? Nobody cares, only that soyboy won’t manage to pull that on anyone at work.
Internet soyboy meets world.
The men are not impressed by what he tells them of what he has learned.
Haha soy is beans, therefore it’s mega good for you. Beans are life
Soy milk sucks, it’s probably the worst milk…
Banana milk is the best, followed by: macadamia, coconut, cashew, oat, rice, almond, flax, hemp, and then soy in last place.
What are you basing any of this on? Sounds like simple opinion and no health facts.
“X sucks” is typically an opinion, yes. I assume this one’s about taste
Reminds me of the youtuber Jake Tran. Ever since he made that in video about soy milk turning people into soyboys I unsubbed. I feel like he pumped out much better content maybe in his earlier days, but lately, I think it’s conservative bs.
Its amazing how common that is.
Its almost like they know their views are terrible and hide them until they have built up enough of an audience to get away with voicing said views…
