• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    Idk who needs to hear this but:

    Your children don’t owe you self assurance, if they chose to cut contact with you fully then that’s their right.

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      It’s not always simple. I have a close family with a NC child, and he’s highly autistic and had been living at home until his mid-20s until the decision. It’s not rooted in politics or abuse, and ultimately everyone hopes that sooner or later he figures himself out. But the temptation is very strong to reach out; and the temptation to say he’s acting ridiculously is, like, not even overcome. We do think he’s being ridiculous. And we sometimes say it. But with sympathy because of the circumstances. I think the author of the original post is probably a tithead, because he voted Trump, but I don’t see him as doing that much more than what we do about this lad. Except for do it publically. And also he’s the one who’s been cut out because all of them have gone NC. So maybe not a similar circumstance at all, but probably still similar local emotional justification - i.e. I bet he feels similarly in many respects to how we feel.

      Edit: I forgot to justify the relevancy. The point I was trying to gesture at with that was that moaning about it doesn’t necessarily mean you think you’re really owed. It’s just moaning. But. As I was writing the comment I realised that actually the fact that he’s doing it in a public forum under his own name is kinda different. And it goes from just moaning to, at minimum: chiding (since they could also see the message); public abuse (since their identities are - I assume - concludable from the message); and making himself the victim. So yeah actually I guess everything I said was probably all wrong, but I still rather like it as an exploration, even if it was of the wrong space, and I’m just gonna leave it up.

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    Ah the classic:

    “Your behaviour has harmed me, so I do not wish to see you anymore”

    “No, wrong, it is YOUR behaviour in saying this that has harmed ME”

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    If liberalism is a mental disorder than neoliberalism is a new mental disorder that is so bizarre it doesn’t even have a definition yet.

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    Slightly off topic:

    When my parents divorced, I was bummed out that I had to attend two thanksgiving dinners. The second was not turkey. We charred hot dogs over an open fire (lived in the midwest at the time) and made smores. It was pretty great.

    This had nothing to do with the election. It’s just a nice memory.

  • Victor@lemmy.world
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    merely because they believe my one vote…

    He thinks his vote doesn’t contribute or something?

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      Conservatives think consequences are extremely unfair. Everything is an act of god to them.

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      Oh nonononono - you see, when Trump does it, he gets the good words: HE is “good at nicknames”, “strong” and “tells it like it is”. When anybody Trump doesn’t like does the exact same thing, then they are being childish, rude and it is altogether absolutely inacceptable.

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    “I let them”

    Dudes showing internally he thinks he controls their votes. That he could’ve not let them had he chosen so.

    So his daughters should be thankful for such a benevolent patriarch. /S

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      He clearly said in context “I let them vote in peace without objection or argument frome me”. Kind of like how I can either let your comment go or choose to respond without claiming to have control over you. The man is still ignorant AF though.

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      Well it’s kind of semantics. The symbolism behind this is not the hill you’d want to die on. Letting somebody do something can either be allowing it or simply not disallowing it. I hate Trump and his low IQ followers, but that sentence does not imply anything.

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        can either be allowing it or simply not disallowing it

        Exactly.

        When I go take a shit, did you allow it, or not disallow it? Neither, because you have no agency over me, so it’d be a stupid fucking sentence.

        I’m not saying he thinks he owns his daughters like some 16th century inbred minor noble.

        But connotations and implications can exist even when they weren’t particularly intentional by the writer (or speaker.)

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    I hope the three girls organise heir own thanksgiving dinner and invite their mom.

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      The American definition of Liberalism is the exact opposite of the original meaning, so maybe he was just being extra-oldschool?

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          To be liberal was to be open an accepting socially. The americans have changed it to mean to allow anything economically which is then coupled with bigotry because division makes the rich richer, or at least stops them being lynched

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            Bro this is just wrong on the fine details, starting with the fact that the original liberalism, and using that term specifically tends to mean the founding ideology of the American and French Revolutions btw, allowed racial chattel slavery and ending with the reality that the “liberal” parties in most countries besides America are conservatives.

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          Neo liberal / laissez-faire applies to both major parties in the USA.

          Although, it’s certainly becoming less so with the GOP than the Democrats. IE: bailouts for farmers affected by their own tariffs, mass deportations which will affect business, etc.

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      His wrongness was so great, that it caused integer underflow and him saying something correct.

      Or horseshoe theory.

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    With lines like “[your political opinion] is a mental disorder”, why is he surprised they aren’t coming?

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    “I voted for the idea that women aren’t people, now the women in my life don’t like me.”

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    “Liberalism is a mental disorder” These people are very telling how they treat people who they think legitimately have mental illness.

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      Conservatives 🤝 Liberals
      “The political positions I dislike are caused by mental illness”

      Socialists: "Hey guys maybe we could try not denigrating mental disorders? Maybe we could try building a left wing that welcomes and accepts the neurodivergent and marginalised?

      Liberals: “Fuck you, we’ll never accept psychopaths like Trump!”

      Socialists: “I never agreed with you that Trump is a psychopath. We don’t have to accept Trump in order to treat ASPD folks with dignity!”

      Liberals: “You’re disgusting, enabling abusers like that. If we treat psychopaths with basic dignity, they’ll only use it to abuse us!”

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        Words like psychopath have a common usage for people not in psychology/psychiatry. I’m sorry that we’re not meeting the clinical definition that you want, but I don’t think ranting about it all over Lemmy is going to help anything.

        When the average nonspecialist individual thinks “psychopath” they think of someone like Hannibal Lecter, who is dangerous and must be locked up to prevent them harming others, and that’s not going to change from a short form text post. It would take a semester of psychology.