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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31683994
Fox News reports that Donald Trump may consider using nuclear weapons to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility
The U.S. military has reservations regarding the success of using a bunker-buster bomb, a non nuclear weapon, to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, buried deep in a mountain. Two defense officials were reportedly briefed that only a tactical nuclear weapon could reach the facility.
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Fake news. They want the price of oil and gas to go up to please Putin.
Ya know, I can’t hate this take.
So we’ll have a war of aggression with Iran for? We don’t like them? Israel has committed more violations of national borders and laws. The KoSA and Egypt’s citizens were involved in 9-11 and they are “allies”.
If any other country did the things Israel has done, we’d be sanctioning them at a minimum. We invaded Iraq both times for less.
Hell we made up lies about Iraq
This time we are past the need for that. It will all be everchanging bullshit from here on out with the us.
I’ll wait for the US to demand that Israel destroy its nuclear weapons…this may take a while…
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The fact is that conventional bombs can’t eliminate all the underground and mountainous facilities. This requires either a large ground invasion and occupation, at a very high cost, or nuclear weapons.
A ground invasion can’t happen for a number of reasons and Israel and the U.S. can’t allow Iran to continue having a nuclear program means that they will see no other choice but to use tactical nukes.
What about MOP?
“We want to stop nuclear proliferation by starting a nuclear war.” - these fucking geniuses, apparently
Fine, start a nuclear war. It’s the waiting I can’t stand.
I mean, it makes the most sense to hit that facility with a bunker busting tactical nuke. Probably the only way to significantly ensure enough damage to end production at the facility.
No
You drop nukes and you cross the line. There is a goddamnrd good reason why nobody uses nukes and trump gets in and now all of the sudden everyone and their mother goes “weeeeeeelll, a tactical nuke, might make sense?”
Fuck. That. Shit.
You do NOT blow up nukes, ever.
I ask you a simple question: Name the only nation that has already used a nuclear weapon in a war… twice.
So you want / have to hit a facility designed to survive most attacks, even potential nuclear attacks and you chose to not use the weapons best suited?
Yes, correct. Absolutely. Because there are ramifications way fucking beyond that one instance.
Similarly, if my neighbor’s dog sometimes pisses on the petunias, a gun would absolutely solve the problem, yet despite being extremely effective it may not be the best solution.
When the cure is worse than the disease.
“Art of the Deal”. Always start “negotiations” with a threat to go nuclear, then brag and posture and bully. Deal
You forgot the part where you Chicken out and go back on everything so you lose on both sides… No one ever sees it coming
Now it’s crystal clear how this absolute idiot bankrupt a casino
He is going to back pedal because Iran is his boss’s (Putin ) ally. He is once again talking shit he has no intention of backing up. I could see him ordering a nin-nuke strike on something that wouldn’t get him in trouble with his handler though as a fake tough man move.
He floats the craziest idea so that whatever happens he can say “at least I didn’t do that one thing” and his base will praise him for it–even though the thing he actually did was still moronic. This is the “permanent 300% tariff”, “Canada will be the 51st state”, or the “Golden Trump Gaza” video. It’s the only way this imbecile knows how to negotiate.
The Golden Trump Gaza, what a fucking joke. I could be totally wrong but I’m going to take a guess and say that the Gaza strip is one of the most bombed out places in the world. If true it’ll be littered with unexploded ordinance forever or at least practically forever. He wants to make a giant Mar’a Lago? Sure okay, I’m sure your guests would enjoy the risk of losing a limb or being killed cause a forgotten bomb goes off 10 years later.
It’s nothing compared to, say, what the US did to Laos, but yes there are thousands of tons of unexploded ordinance in there and will take at least a decade to clean up.
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He’s gonna backpadel because he is a wimp, a paper tiger, he doesn’t dare to send people to war as he’s chickened out of Viet Nam.
TACO
What is a country? A miserable pile of war crimes.
Turning a habitable area full of innocent people into a pile of radioactive rubble and dying people why? Because fucking the Israeli government wants to genocide palestinians without resistance? Damn we fucking suck as a country
What the actual hell.
Trump will drop a nuke before leaving office. He been begging to use one since his first term. They literally had to stop him from nucking a hurricane. He wants to do it. My worry is he will drop one on an American state.
I agree with you completely. He’s fascinated with nukes, and believes naked demonstrations of power show that he’s strong. If he does drop a nuke in Iran, you can guarantee that Russia will use them in Ukraine, and that quickly opens the door to a much wider war in Europe. Strategic thinking is not Trump’s strong suit, and he’s likely to bumble us into a nuclear WWIII.
I fully expect him to nuke a blue state in a false flag attack. I can’t prove it, but I won’t be surprised if he does
You might enjoy the short run of the TV show Jericho.
There’s also comics that continue the story a bit more.
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If you can’t prove it, then they are doing the false flag operation right. Well; correctly, anyway.
My worry is he will drop one on an American state.
Wouldn’t be the first time, but those were on accident and thankfully didn’t detonate.
Edit to add reference: 1961 Goldsboro B-52 Crash
I mean we also blew up a lot of nukes on American soil on purpose too!
New Mexico had it coming tho.
Mostly Nevada
Nevada doesn’t even own most of Nevada.
For science!…or something
The Science of War
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WHO GETS THE NUKE FIRST? IRAN, GAZA OR THE FIRST HURRICANE OF THE SEASON! sadtimes.
What’s the us city that matches the following:
- democratic
- least amount of white people
- more than 100k inhabitants
- doesn’t have critical military infrastructure
- Trump doesn’t go golfing there or at least doesn’t like to
Detroit, Michigan
It’d absolutely be somewhere on the west coast.
London? Bonus: has a Muslim Mayor
… US city. London.
NYC
Nah he’s too connected to NYC.
Probably still owes payment on construction in NYC
Wouldn’t that give him extra incentive to blow it up?
Yes, saves him the legal fees of drowning his contractors in court to avoid payment
California?
I would be scared if I lived in New Mexico …
Don’t worry, Los Angeles isn’t a state :p
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That phrasing is kinda racist, yo
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Same guy that kept ripping on Zelensky for “instigating” nuclear war
MADness.
Hopefully someone drops him beforehand.
