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Intelligence sources believe Epstein was running ‘the world’s largest honeytrap operation’ on behalf of the KGB when he procured women for his network of associates.

  • EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Said it before. I’ll say it again. Read American Kompromat by Craig Unger. There is a string of circumstantial evidence that Trump has been a Russian asset since at least 1986. None of it is new or conspiratorial. Unger just put a bunch of publicly known facts into the book.

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    He repeatedly seeks an audience with Putin, but wouldn’t an agent have a direct line? He certainly had a direct line with Ehud Barak. They literally traveled the globe together making deals for Israel. Regarding Russia Epstein seems to be more of an opportunist. There’s an email where they are looking into an opportunity to support Ilya Ponomarev, who wanted to lead an “uprising against Putin”. Epstein was not a Russian agent. He was an Israeli agent.

    https://altmedia.house/post/189117/610441

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    My guess is everyone was using Epstein: Russia, Israel, USA, maybe more. He connected, blackmailed and sold people to all of them. It so happened that Russia wanted Trump and got super lucky with their purchase. I really don’t think Putin predicted that Trump is going to be president. No one expected this until he won.

    Israel most probably go their share of useful materials. On Clinton maybe? Gates? Saudis? This we will probably never know.

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      Ghislaine’s father was a triple agent for MI6, KGB, and Mossad.

      Epstein would have sold anything to the highest bidder, it’s in Russia’s interest to see America divided.

      Israel just wants to ensure the status quo of overwhelming military support from the US continues

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    Boy, you sure don’t hear the words “deeply researched” used in reference to the Daily Mail very often.

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      Yeah, I’m really confused. This is pretty incredible stuff, but how trustworthy is it? Did they just leak the truth out to a questionable source, so they could later deny it, and disparage the source?

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    Is Trump owned by a foreign power? Maybe.

    Is Trump owned by the billionaire class? Definitely.

    This is a stupid article selling a sensationalist story when the truth is playing out everyday with shady crypto deals and ballroom “donations”.

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      In 1987, Krasnov placed several full page advertisements in the NY Times, Boston Globe and one other newspaper criticizing US foreign policy and NATO. The ads appeared shortly after his first visit to Moscow. The Russians own the sack of shit and they have the “goods” on him.

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        Hey, you still bringin your macaroons to the gun club potluck Dale? It’s this Sunday I called Nancy and she said she’d be at John Redcorns’ and didn’t know what your plans were.

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          I don’t know who Dale Gribble is, I don’t answer to that name, and frankly it sounds like the kind of identity the government invents so you’ll accidentally admit to owning a leaf blower.

          Now purely for the sake of accuracy, if this so-called ‘Dale Gribble’ were bringing macaroons to the gun club potluck, which I am not confirming, then let’s get one thing straight: they are almond-extract macaroons, not vanilla. He switched after 2004. Anyone saying otherwise is either misinformed or working off outdated surveillance notes as we all know ovens run on government-calibrated thermostats.

          As for the potluck itself—total psy-op. Food-based compliance exercise. Coconut is a known vector for trust-building. I’ve said this for years.

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      RawStory: You’re not going to guess who is REALLY behind THE PRESIDENT! And they’re STILL using their WICKED INFLUENCES to CONTROL HIM!

      American Pleb: Is it rich people? Specifically, wealthy overseas special interests with ties to the intelligence services?

      RawStory: FUCK! We’ll have to FIND SOMETHING even more EXPLOSIVE to try and SHOCK YOU MORE next TIME.

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      At this point, what can happen? Congress is under the same sticky thumb as Trump, and there aren’t enough voters who are engaged enough to even know about it. The firehose of bullshit did exactly what it was supposed to do, and now there’s no public will left to keep fighting for freedom and democracy.

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        There is actually a huge amount of public interest and engagement around these issues right now. The ground is very, very ripe for organizing, especially around class lines. The ICE OUT protests and general strikes have demonstrated that there are thousands of people ready to put their bodies on the line for what is right. Those people need to be organized, trained and armed. Then history will take its course.

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        Military coup. A well respected general that still gives a shit about their country and their pride decides to say ‘not on my watch’, sends in the troops hot and hard, when least expected. Capture who you can. Eliminate those who can’t be. There would be no negative consequences for that person if they succeed.

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          Pretty sure they sniffed out anyone capable of that and sacked them in the purges. Hell, that was the reason for the purges.

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      This comment has some very

      Orange man bad updoots to the left

      Kind of energy

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          I mean, it’s just a nothing comment. Like, what does it add to the discussion? It’s some defeatist bullshit that we really don’t need right now.

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            This is the internet. It’s not only the US. I can’t do anything for you. It’s an observation.

            What did you do against the illegal activities of your criminal government recently?

            Apologies, if you did and felt included. But we’re not seeing much. We’ve just recently defended greenland. For now.

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        Hey man whatever floats your boat. I’m not even from the US and the world is watching this unfold aghast how much you would take until other things happen. But they did a good job on you to still take it.

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    so not only is trump responsible for child abuse but it was a sanctioned KGB operation to put children in harms way and make them essentially into prostitutes. this world wasn’t created by a god or any other supernatural being. You humans are evil filthy animals that need another extinction level event. but who knows the actual truth, you? me? definitely not anyone who can actually make things better.

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    Weak damaged man, weak damaged president, weak damaged nation.

    The office of the president is far too powerful, just as the anti-federalists feared:

    Holly Brewer, the Burke Professor of American History at the University of Maryland and the brief’s main author, told ABC News that historical writings from key figures, including Alexander Hamilton, James Madison and others as well as the records from the states as they ratified the Constitution explicitly show they were against “another runaway monarchy” after suffering under Great Britain’s King George III.

    And now, Putin is our defacto president. Disgusting.

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      The office of the president is far too powerful

      The office of the Republican president is far too powerful.

      The office of the Democratic president is impotent and feeble.

      Putin is our defacto president

      It’s so funny to see the US intelligence services working overtime for sixteen years to do regime change in Russia. And because they keep fucking it up, the presumption is that we’re in Russia’s thrall.

      Meanwhile, Benjamin Netanyahu takes flights out to DC every few years to give joint chamber speeches at our own capital building. He gives his minions in our legislature explicit marching orders, while his affiliates in AIPAC drop billions of dollars into primary and national congressional races, influence peddle to affect judicial appointments, and lobby states to outlaw criticism of the Israeli state, and we’re just like “Oh yeah, this is normal, nothing to see here”.

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        Trump didn’t nail up a pic of him and natanyahu on the white house wall a few weeks ago, but he did putin. Besides they can all be in bed together, which is probably the most likely.

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          Trump didn’t nail up a pic of him and natanyahu on the white house wall a few weeks ago

          Trump shaking hands with Netanyahu doesn’t Own The Libs. It’s one of those issues Chuck Schumer races Mitch McConnell and Mike Johnson to applaud him on.

          Besides they can all be in bed together

          I don’t think for a second that anyone believes Democrats are in bed with Putin. And the urgency to take the fight to Russia is a major dividing line between MAGA Republicans and Neocon leftovers. (One that Trump was on the other side of as late as 2019)

          It would be safer to say Netayahu is in bed with Putin, pulling strings on his behalf, than that the Trump GOP is aligned with Putin directly and not just playing Ukraine and Russia off against one another for their own benefit.

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              I think the situation is more complex than that. These are three expansionist imperial powers in a very loose coalition, perfectly happy to stab the other two in the back if it suits them.

              The idea that Putin “owns” Trump is American media fiction. It’s not Devin Nunes sitting in the VP chair and its not Aleksandr Dugin operating as his Homeland Security Advisor. The folks that have their hooks deepest into Trump are 100% American.

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                  Also research Cambridge Analytica

                  Cambridge Analytica Ltd. (CA), previously known as SCL USA, was a British political consulting firm that came to prominence through the Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal. It was founded in 2013, as a subsidiary of the private intelligence company and self-described “global election management agency” SCL Group by long-time SCL executives Nigel Oakes, Alexander Nix and Alexander Oakes, with Nix as CEO. Cambridge Analytica was hired by a variety of political actors, including the Trinidadian government in 2010 and the 2016 presidential campaigns of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.

                  Nigel John Oakes (born July 1962) is a British businessman, and the founder and CEO of Behavioural Dynamics Institute and SCL Group

                  Alexander James Ashburner Nix (born 1 May 1975) is a British businessman who was the former CEO of Cambridge Analytica

                  Alexander Waddington Oakes (born November 1968) is a British businessman, and the co-founder and an executive of Behavioural Dynamics Institute and SCL Group

                  So, I’m seeing a country’s name come up over and over again. But it’s not Russia.

                  The firm maintained offices in London, New York City, and Washington, D.C.

                  Cambridge Analytica (SCL USA) was incorporated in January 2013 with its registered office being in Westferry Circus, London and consisting of just one staff member, director and CEO Alexander Nix (also appointed in January 2015).[13] Nix was also the director of nine similar companies sharing the same registered offices in London, including Firecrest technologies, Emerdata and six SCL Group companies including “SCL elections limited”.[14] Nigel Oakes, known as the former boyfriend of Lady Helen Windsor, had founded the predecessor SCL Group in the 1990s, and in 2005 Oakes established SCL Group together with his brother Alexander Oakes and Alexander Nix; SCL Group was the parent company of Cambridge Analytica.[15] Former Conservative minister and MP Sir Geoffrey Pattie was the founding chairman of SCL; Lord Ivar Mountbatten also joined Oakes as a director of the company.[12] As a result of the Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal, Nix was removed as CEO and replaced by Julian Wheatland before the company closed.[16] Several of the company’s executives were Old Etonians.

                  Yeah, I’m seeing a whole lot of Brits show up in this article.

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      They also fought tooth and nail against fiat currency/central banking…

      So of course we have the FED, the king of all central banking!

      They also fought tooth and nail against the federal government being a moral arbiter with too much power…

      So of course we now have a goliath super surveillance state working hand in hand with megachurches and companies!

      They also fought tooth and nail against military/police power abuse…

      So of course now we now have asset forfeiture and immunity to prosecution!

      etc., etc.

      The problem with ignoring the constitution for decades is you can’t decide it counts now and try to enforce it…

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    It’s Israel. Just because Epstein shared intel with Russia doesn’t make this a KGB operation. Wild how desperate the news media is to draw attention away from Israel and Mossad. They are very obviously still pulling the strings today.

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      Ghislaines dad was literally Mossad and the day it was revealed he was Mossad he died for some reason but yeah it’s spoooooky Russia and not the genocidal zionists that are destabilizing the world

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    ‘the world’s largest honeytrap operation’

    So that’s what we are calling sex trafficking children rings now?

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      No, honeytrap operations are specifically a intelligence operation where assets (manipulatable agents in a target business or country) are obtained by gaining blackmail through documentation of embarrassing or illicit sexual encounters.

      Sometimes a trafficking ring is just for pedos to have sex …and while that is really fucking horrible it isn’t a honeytrap.

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      It’s both, but the honey trap provides both motivation for the traffickers and it means everyone involved should be considered compromised by foreign states. If it were only a pedo ring, it would be bad but that’s pretty much where the conspiracy would stop.

      But with a verified honey trap, it needs to be assumed that the named people are now (and have been) acting on behalf of a hostile foreign nation who has mountains of blackmail on them. And reframing those implicated peoples’ motivations from “they’re just seeking power for themselves” to “they’re aiding a hostile foreign nation” shifts things from “selfish and power-hungry” to outright “high treason”.