While the intake report memorialized allegations that multiple girls were murdered and buried at a Trump golf course, newly released Epstein records suggest federal investigators ultimately viewed the source skeptically. Other FBI summaries released by the Justice Department indicate complainants making similar allegations were “deemed not credible,” and no publicly released records show that authorities excavated any Trump golf course or uncovered evidence supporting the claims.

Guess the rich only ever saw consequences once: France in 1792

What would America’s Storming the Bastille moment even look like? Storming the child-rape mansion that is Mar-a-Lago? Who’s head would get carried away on a pike? Miller’s? Theil’s? Musk’s?

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    “As you know I represent the Rothschild’s”

    • Jeffery Epstein

    You think it’s a coincidence Ivanka Trump “discovered” an Island they wanted to develop as a luxury resort for billionaires while on (in kushner’s own words) Nat Rothschild’s yacht? You think it’s a coincidence Don Jr married Epstein s bankers daughter? The Trumps have been trafficking and most likely murdering children for decades.

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    How many Americans could shake the FBI off their tails just by claiming the witnesses are not perfect? Weirdly, the existence of Epstein is more understandable than the decades-long tolerance by all levels of government.

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    On one hand it’s important to remember that the allegations were not deemed credible enough by investigators at the time, but on the other hand this is Epstein and his BFF (the orange one) we are talking about. For the moment I’m going to take this with a grain of salt. However, I would certainly love for someone to do a proper investigation of these allegations so we can all finally learn the truth.

    Also, “underage sex parties” sure is a weak-ass way to say “rape parties”, because we know that’s what it really was, or would be if/when the allegations are finally proven.

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      If it’s an underage sex party it is a rape party. Underage cannot give consent so it is always rape.

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      But the allegations kept coming in. Like I get one or two instances, could just reason that as people trying to get some money off a rich guy. But he got at least 6 allegations coming from his time with Epstein (and that’s the ones we know of) and he has so many more allegations from women that weren’t involved in the Epstein case. He was also found liable of rape in the E Carroll case.

      The man is a giant lecherous creep and he has a Wikipedia page dedicated just to his sexual misconduct and allegations. That page has like 30 separate entries. It disgusts me that he got even a single vote.

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        He is most certainly a lecherous creep and quite possibly worse. That said, I do still believe in the presumption of innocence even for lecherous old creeps. It’s a principle that protects us all and a right here in the US.
        I do hope that one day the truth is revealed, preferably in a court of law, and I fully expect that truth to illuminate just how lecherous and treacherous that man and his cohorts really are and I certainly hope that they get their just deserts as a result.

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      What do you think the odds are of that happening, this year or next or whatever?

      Keep in mind, this thing in Iran won’t end. It might get hot and cold with ceasefires Israel routinely, if not daily, violates.

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        After a successful op in Venezuela, he thought he could boost his rep with another one, and then blew it in Iran.

        Now he’ll want an easy win to redeem himself, and he’ll go all in on Cuba, with troops and everything, figuring it will be a walk in the park since it’s right off the coast.

        But he’ll fuck it up, and kill lots of American troops, and innocent Cubans, and even the American Cubans will get pissed off, and he’ll be in an even worse situation than before.

        Never underestimate his ability to totally fuck up EVERYTHING.

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          Initial military success in regard to Venezuela. When the Venezuelan people realize how badly they are getting shafted, they will rebel and take control of their oil again.

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        What do you think the odds are of that happening, this year or next or whatever?

        Feels like an October Surprise moment, especially if Republicans are worried about losing in Florida.

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          Republicans aren’t worried about losing Florida it’s on lock as I understand it.

          But yeah, right before the elections is not a bad guess. I think it would hurt them more than help, but if they manufactured a pretext and did something right before the election before it became clear this was more hamfisted leadership it might not hurt.

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            Republicans aren’t worried about losing Florida

            Their approval rating has been underwater for months, even in that cursed state.

            But yeah, right before the elections is not a bad guess. I think it would hurt them more than help, but if they manufactured a pretext and did something right before the election before it became clear this was more hamfisted leadership it might not hurt.

            The US media does a great job of taking everything Trump says at face value and in the best possible framing for about three weeks after he says it, and then running a bunch of “Can’t believe y’all let Lucy trick you with that football again” articles once the latest fuckery is in the rearview mirror.

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              Their approval rating has been underwater for months, even in that cursed state.

              He made gains with Hispanics then proceeded to sic ICE on them. Now many are conservative as hell and have their own issues with colorism and racism, but I am curious to see how this plays out in 2028.

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            Imagine being so fucking stupid you believe a republican would do anything positive for anyone but themselves.

            You’re already mentally brain dead if you think a democrat would ever help you, you’ve got to be literal rotting zombie flesh puppeted by the propaganda of pedophiles to believe a word a republican says.

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              believe a word a republican says

              “Increase the federal minimum wage to $15 across the country and eliminate the minimum tipped wage.” ~Joe Biden

              not even one standalone bill. they only needed a majority. They skip super majority requirements all of the time with a majority vote, they’ve done it hundreds of times (it’s a parliamentary rule only and not the law).

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        The Iran situation is going to end the same way as Afghanistan. USA will declare job done and just leave, leaving the mess for others to sort out. Oil production will ramp up elsewhere where it’s suddenly profitable to extract because of the higher prices which will eventually find a new balance. Israel will kill a lot of people domestically and play the victim.

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          I see a world war where the whole world finally gets tired of America and decides that the USA could do with some major demolition projects.

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            I don’t think anybody wants that, or not from the current Iran conflict anyway.

            Trump just declared the war over about an hour ago.

            Whatever these stupid events are, it’s probably not escalating to a world war.

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              and in 3 hours he will ask our former allies for help ending the war. and 24 hours after that he will be claiming we are winning the war. and in a few days he will say that we won the war months ago.

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        As an armchair general I would guess before midterms if they are set to lose (and if losing means they won’t be able to start a new invasion), and after if not. But in any case Cuba isn’t much of a challenge compared to Iran, so it won’t be hard to invade, militarily speaking

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    I’m tired of these “breaking news” stories about FBI tip line calls reporting stuff Trump did with Epstein.

    ##We are being played.##

    I feel 100% certain that there is recorded evidence of Trump having sex with underage girls, but that is not what we have here. We are like cats chasing lasers on the floor while the real shit gets covered up.

    Don’t fall for this distraction.

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      I feel 100% certain that there is recorded evidence of Trump having sex with underage girls

      RAPING. The world you were looking for is RAPING. Trump RAPING underage girls.

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      Yeah, Epstein died 7 years ago, during Trumps first term as president, and since neither Trump’s nor Biden’s administrations released the files entirely so far, there is a huge risk that the most damming evidence has been lost or tampered with.

      At this point, I hope that there are a few agents who has managed to save unaltered copies of the files in a hidden locked box, just waiting for a good opportunity (for themselves) to release them.

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      Yeah, most of the Epstein files have not been released. That is an objective fact. And obviously it is the worst (for Trump) which they have held back, even though the stuff they have released is already pretty bad for him.

      They are not going to release anymore though.

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      Also this is just an fbi tip. They are legally required to document the claims; that doesn’t mean they are any more than claims. We should not be focusing on unsubstantiated shit when there is definitely more concrete evidence out there.

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      While harassing and terrorizing drag queens for being gRoOmErS, and not shutting up about the liberal Hollywood elite for, well, doing the same thing.

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        Hollywood is not now nor have they ever been very progressive in our lifetimes. They do support like lgbtq, and some social issues. The rich don’t actually care about that, they care about the money, they are just using people on this to get what they want.

        They also mostly suck at their jobs. And it’s about to get magnitudes worse on every score with this paramount bullshit. 3 studios will control like 75% of movie studios. Sony another several percent.

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    I know “sex parties” is a quote from the file and is therefore correctly cited, but the term is rape.

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    Every single person who has ever voted for a Republican is deep down a child molester without exception. Yeah, that means you, user reading this who voted for a Republican. Sicko.

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      No more excuses for “oh we didn’t know, he tricked us!! 🥺” and all that bullshit. Seriously. In 2016 I was still in school and us teens were following the elections and we were HORRIFIED when someone broke the news that he had won. Mind you, I AM NOT AMERICAN. Us kids saw that shit. If you support or HAVE supported these ghouls then yes, I WILL assume you are a child molester and FINE with other people raping children.

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    Guys, hold on. Everyone stop.

    Have you seen the Dow?

    Uh oh! It’s BELOW 50k?

    Well then, let’s continue talking about Epstein then.

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    The Epstein files must say even worse things. That’s why we are at war with Iran. What a waste all around for everybody and everything.

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      You know what they say, a picture says a thousand words, and a video of a member of the ruling class fucking a child is worth a lot more.

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    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

    Too bad America seems to be fresh out of patriotic blood so tyrants run rampant.

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      Cuba is the obvious one, they’ve already been planning it. But did you know Nepal is 2 weeks away from developing nuclear weapons?

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        I’m sure in the next few months India will magically be linked to nuclear weapons in the middle east. the proof? Trump said so between nappy times.

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            Trump would love a nuclear war. and he’s also an idiot who thinks that Wakanda is a real country… you really think he’s smart enough to realize that it’s not smart to attack a country with real nukes?

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              Trump isn’t different than previous presidents in foreign policy, he just made internal policy consistent with it.

              If the US wanted nuclear war then they would go against Pakistan not their ally.

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                Trump is a pedophile and rapist. his foreign policy is: money, rape kids, find a new wife, cheat on her, glue is gummy, money, and kill/enslave all non-cishet white men.

                no other president in history has been as evil and disgusting as him.

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                  kill/enslave all non-cishet white men.

                  Then he differs from his predecessors in that at least there’s a group he won’t attack apparently.

                  From Canada’s POV he hasn’t used chemical weapons against us just to see if they work as far as we know.

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      Money is a clear reason.

      Fanjuls want their sugar plantations back and have been greasing the Republicans for years.