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      The problem with fucking idiots is that they’re always fucking other fucking idiots and creating more fucken fucking idiots!

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      I fucking hate this comparison.

      The government in Idiocracy actually tried. They were just idiots. The bad guy in that movie is stupidity.

      When these comparisons started that wasn’t even a fair comparison. And I mean like, it was common enough when W. was still in office, among the like 10 people who had seen it by that time.

      We have actively malicious state actors who love that you’re so willing to believe they’re only stupid.

      Also Mike Judge is terrified of poor people.

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        I mean… the bad guy in Idiocracy is actually “inferior genetics” and “the poors”, Like… I find it hilarious but holy fuck did that movie do a lot for advancing eugenics among the cultural zeitgeist…

        But yeah. President Comacho actually cared and was trying to make the world better. And once Not Sure showed them that toilet water worked, they used it. Rather than insisting on shoving horse medicine up their asses out of spite.

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        It’s an apt reference when talking about the population rather than the government. But you’re right. Camacho was an infinitely better president that actively listened to the smartest person in the world. He was surrounded by idiots too, but he tried.

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        Care to clue in those of us who aren’t celebrity watchers, and know nothing about Mike Judge?

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          Mike Judge is the creative mind behind Idiocracy, king of the hill, and office space. A core theme behind the first two is “poor people are stupid and crazy.”

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              I would disagree with it being a core theme. But most of Judge’s work very much punches down on poor people. Whether it is Beavis and Butthead living in squalor and working at a mcdonald’s (and most of their villains being “trailer trash”) or many of Hank’s “villains” also being “white trash”. And a big theme of the first few seasons was Luanne triumphing against having grown up poor.

              And… I love Office Space but it is hard to not look at Peter choosing to be a construction worker to be happy as “willful stupidity is bliss”.

              To my knowledge, Idiocracy is the only thing where he took that farther since the entire movie is predicated on Smoothie becoming Smoothie too soon and the eugenics that followed. Which… I think Idiocracy is funny (even if it is probably too painful to watch these days) but holy shit was that movie pushing eugenics harder than that creepy house Waypoint stayed at for an E3. Especially when the closing gag is something like “Not Sure and Rita had three of the smartest and most beautiful children ever. Dax Shepard had fifty of the dumbest”.

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                If we ignore the wealthy “villains” in King o the Hill like Strickland, Thatherton, Kan, and the occasional rich people through out the show, then sure that could be a correct statement.

                There was even an episode where a rich investor from out of state was being an ass and wanted to get the “Authentic” Texan experience but Hank eventually got fed up.

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                  Strickland is 100% “money can’t buy class”. And there were multiple (?) episodes where Minh and Kahn lost their money and “lived as hillbillies” as it were.

                  But sure. Feel free to focus on a few exceptions to completely ignore the entire rest of the pattern. This IS reddit after all.


                  I think you might be doing what a lot of people are. You look at Hank and you say “he isn’t rich, he is middle class”. And you fixate on when the upper class (like Kahn, even though he lives in the same neighborhood) get what is coming to them.

                  But you, like most people, ignore how often “the poors” are the villains and are punched down on. Folk like Jimmy and Lucky (although he mostly was comic relief) and so forth.

                  Which… gets back to Idiocracy. Smoothie and his wife were definitely rich academics. But Not Sure is the very definition of average. He is the everyman. It is just that the world has become so much stupider and so much poorer than he is and…

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            It’s been a LONG time since I watched either of them, so I’ll have to rewatch some with that perspective in mind. Seems a bit exaggerated to me, but I suppose it’s possible. Thanks for explaining.

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              Just think of the IQ/reproduction sequence at the start and the kinds of people that were used to represent high and low IQ.

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        The government of idiocracy is decades after the stage we’re in now, but we seem to be in the prologue part of that movie, if not further in.

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      mehhh, they realised they were idiots and consulted the smartest dude around. We wish it was Idiocracy

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    All these old MAGAts and fuckfaces take testosterone supplements so fucken much. The old owner of the company I work at was one of these dudes. Its all about being s teenager forever.

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        Genuinely, it is gender affirming care. It’s replacing sex hormones their body won’t produce naturally, to counteract effects that are existentially devastating to their psyche.

        They don’t wanna say that low-T as an older man feels like gender dysphoria. But have a conversation with a trans guy and an old man about testosterone levels and masculinity and self-image, and you’ll have almost the exact same complaint. “I just want to feel like the man I know I am inside.”

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          As a not-old guy with low testosterone, I just have an intractable depression.

          It sorta responds to antidepressants. It sorta responds to sunlight therapy. It sorta responds to keeping a handle on my diet and exercise.

          Sometimes it’s worse, sometimes it’s better. But I’m almost always struggling with not having energy, being irritable, and feeling overwhelmed.

          Going on testosterone was like “ooooh, that’s what that’s supposed to be like.”

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            As a trans woman, yeah that’s basically how I felt before estrogen. Well that and my proprioception regularly asking where the hell my tits were.

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        UPDATE: After taking all the responses to this into consideration, I now understand testosterone therapy to indeed be gender affirming care but Hegseth and the “Manosphere” crowd he identifies with prefer to affirm their gender by denying their age. They still want to be the “studs” they (thought) they were in high school. They’re the same guys who wax nostalgically about their “glory days” when they were on the football team and how they “led the team to win the regionals”(but not state) and they “coulda gone pro” but one of “those people(you know who they’re referring to)”, “stole” their scholarship.

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            Hmm. I didn’t think of it like that, but I never considered that either gender has an “ideal state”. It’s also, I suppose that, for them, at least, that gender doesn’t really factor into their desired state.

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                You know, now that you say it, it makes sense. They’re affirming their gender to deny their age. When they look back at their teenage years and/or their early 20’s, that’s when (they believe) they were at their “most maximal manliest manliness”, or in biology terms, the point when their testosterone levels were at their highest. As soon as a man hits 30, it’s all downhill from there. And I speak from experience as a 35-year-old white guy. Some of my shit doesn’t work how it did in my 20’s. Some parts of me now ache that previously did not. It’s harder for me to get up from a sitting position than it used to be. But I don’t think the answer for that is to amp up my testosterone levels to try and go through puberty again.

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                  The real heart of the issue is that they have such a small idea of what constitutes masculinity, that they’re utterly incapable of defining male as anything but a 20 year old getting drunk, playing sports, and breaking things. They don’t understand anything that isn’t just that. Mature masculinity, doesn’t exist in their world. Men don’t nurture, men don’t learn, men don’t grow. They don’t teach, they scream. They don’t support, they attack. They don’t create, the break. It’s a very sad world view. Aging gracefully, mentoring, collaborating, building a community, engaging in art, in self-expression, investing time and effort into people, all of that is “girl stuff.” Even having a family, what they want are trophies of their sexual conquest, not relationships. They don’t want to guide and mentor or participate in their kids lives. They want the glory. They make themselves so shallow, anyone with any depth at all is a threat.

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              Oh, gender absolutely does factor in. Women are seen as lesser because misogyny. And, while the normal person wouldn’t consider there to be an ideal state, these people definitely have one in mind. It’s toxic hyper masculinity on meth

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            The me I that I didn’t realize I was imagining when I was thinking of myself doing cool stuff

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    I just can’t. No one ever suspected that there were a group of people who could be so fucking brain dead and stupid that it would become some sort of superpower. Like the dumbest most inept motherfuckers. MAGA are pedophiles accomplices and idiots of the highest order.

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    In other words, Pete Hegseth introduces mandatory gender-affirming tests as part of servicemember health evaluations.

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    He seems to be obsessed with the purity of bodily fluids, just like Jack D. Ripper. Even looks a little like him.

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    Yes, let’s also pump them full of methamphetamine and we’ll create good little Sturmtruppens to do the füeher’s bidding.

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          I don’t know why I’m scandalized by anything anymore but I’m scandalized by this.

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            I mean, it is long stretches of night flying (generally staring into bright NVGs for extra eye strain) where they have to stay on edge for hours at a time. And it has the same culture of special forces where “it is a privilege to do this and only the best can earn it” which pushes people to push themselves even further.

            So… think about that when you hear about helicopters and planes mysteriously crashing into each other or failing on missions.

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    This guy is such a pussy. He overcompensates all the time and clearly has an inferiority complex. Must have a rather tiny penis to think being that macho is somehow important or a good thing. Probably an incel, too.

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        Crazy to me that they don’t want the military mandating that they have to take the flu shot, but these weird macho dudes are just fine getting their hormone levels checked and submitting them to the army. I am at such a loss with society

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          It’s all based in insecurity, it’s gay to prevent illness because your already too manly and strong to get sick, but showing off how T’ed up you are is a privilege

          Edit: autocorrect is stupid