Former President Donald Trump is expected to surrender himself to the Fulton County jail at the end of next week – on Thursday or Friday, a senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the surrender told CNN.
Can we all just stop for a second and appreciate what a crazy fucking time it is to be alive in this country?
Absolutely. And in so many way. I’m only in my 40s and I feel like I’m living in a vastly different world than the one I was born into.
The rate of change is unlike anything humans have ever had to cope with in our 2 million year history.
For almost all of human existence, there wasn’t even a CONCEPT of progress… no sense that humanity was going anywhere. Your life was virtually identical to that of your great great great grandfather, and would be the same experience had by your great great great grandchild.
I remember a world of rotary phones, small towns with personalities before chains homogenized the world. I remember how the United States had a whole different personality before 9-11. I remember when Republicans had actual plans for governing (OBAMA’S affordable care act was basically a clone of Bob Dole’s plan). I remember the world before the Internet, when malls were packed and buzzing, when shopping in stores felt magical and not like a ghost town.
I remember analog and even black and white TVs. I remember the first video games and PCs,b dial-up Internet, browsers before tabs were invented.
I remember when acid rain was there number one environmental concern, and how we actually accepted the science and made policy to fix it.
I remember the bugs.
I remember so many more bugs. The night alive with fireflies. Windshields plastered with splatters on the highway.
I remember paper maps! FM radio. Cassette adapters.
The world is so, so, so different. It changed so fast.
Republicans became a suicide cult.
The government stopped breaking up monopolies, and started bailing out too-big-to-fail banks.
The United States tortures people now. People never charged of a crimes were tortured at Guantanamo Bay.
I grew up in a home that my parents bought cheap. They had two cars. They took us on vacations every year. They saved up for retirement. My dad had a PhD. He did well.
I have a law degree. I will never own a home. I will never be able to afford even a single vacation. I will never be able to retire.
They rolled back Roe.
They staged an insurrection.
I’ve been working with GPT-4 night and day since it was released to the public. I’m 100 percent convinced that with a little supplementation, it is the first artificial GENERAL intelligence.
It can already create better writing and code than MOST of the human population.
Where will it be in 5 years? 10? 20?
It’s going to be smarter, funnier, more creative, more thoughtful than all of us. In our lifetime. WHY, then, are we even HERE at that point? Why do we even exist?
These were questions for science fiction. For the future.
It’s happening NOW. WE, of all humans in the span of history, are the ones who will see our species become obsolete.
So yeah. Let’s take moment to realize how cosmically, historically insane it is to live in this moment.
Amen. And love your first point about how way back, the average person did not have a concept of progress in their day-to-day life.
I guess that didn’t really start to blow up until Newton laid the laws of physics down (along with calculus - what a guy) to allow for drastic scientific development. Once we had steam engines and the Industrial Revolution…change has become almost commonplace now.
I too remember paper maps…always in the glove box.
Having to remember phone numbers.
Encyclopedias
No cell phone and no internet.
Newton laid the laws of physics down (along with calculus - what a guy)
Poor Leibniz, totally forgotten by history. Can you imagine inventing friggin calculus and nobody notices or cares? lol
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It might surprise you to know that comment was written by chatgpt
Bugs. Yeah. That still creeps me out.
It’s probably just the one of the first signs of ecological collapse due to climate change so nothing to worry about :(
Le sigh. Yup.
I was thinking about your comment and came back. I’m nearly 39 so a similar age.
First of all. What if you put your phone down, got off the internet and had a look around at your life and what is happening directly in your world. I’ll bet it’s not as chaotic as it feels when we see crazy headlines everywhere. You get up, chat with your family if you are lucky enough to live with someone, perhaps you go to work and interact with your coworkers or clients, hopefully the day isn’t too stressful. Come home, think about what you will have for dinner and hope it doesn’t make you too fat. Go to bed. You might squeeze in some time for hobbies, or visiting friends on the weekends.
Sure, housing is a massive problem right now, but financial bleakness isn’t new - imagine how it felt to live through the great depression? I’m in Australia, but a couple of years ago we had my son’s birthday at this nice lookout at the top of a hill. There was a plaque there that read that the road to the top of the hill was built by men during the depression in exchange for food to feed their families. The more kids you had the more hours you had to work. It was like 5 or more kids was a mandatory 12 hour day.
That would have felt bleak and like there was no way out.
Imagine getting caught up in world war 2? You would think the world had now really gone to shit. It was so traumatizing to the population here that every tiny town has a plaque of all the people who died from it. The names in the list are usually longer than the population of the town right now.
Then after the war, stuff like the threat of atomic war, nuclear winters and the entire earth dying because of a conflict escalation.
You described my childhood experience perfectly, but we might have just been very lucky and grew up in an optimistic decade full of rationality and scientific progress.
cant bone a robot. i don’t think it’ll be replacing us anytime soon
Not with that attitude
I’m confident Japan is working feverishly day and night to resolve this issue.
Dude…I’m 42 and that hits me in the feels. You couldn’t have said it better
Preach!
I’m nearing 40 myself, I’m so depressed at what the future holds for my children.
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I’ll recognize it, but I’d rather not appreciate it. I’d appreciate it if half the country had never been infatuated with an historically proven con-man with delusions of grandeur. Legitimately one of the must frustrating realities for someone who believes in democracy to grapple with is that half the population MUST be less than average intelligence (and even some of greater intelligence will choose willful ignorance).
Appreciate has two different meanings.
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to value or admire highly
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understand (a situation) fully; recognize the full implications of.
It’s can be awkward because they are really divergent meanings with almost apposed connotations.
You’re correct. I was being intentionally obtuse to agree about the sentiment, but also further the lament. Kind of a “being funny to myself (and maybe no one else)” moment, but publicly expressed.
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Oh no, it’s not that they’re stupid. It’s that they’re evil. What Trump stands for and what that stupid-ass cult values is entirely something they’re fully cognizant of and want. Right down to the genocide.
They just learned to hide it very well. Even mastering sophistry to do it.
I second this. Its horrible and sad that so many people are evil, or more to the point, can be led to an evil position which they’ll embrace and defend with all their intellect.
One of the scariest things about this shift is a realization that this is how countries do horrible things. A mob of excited people can make group decisions, and will follow horrible leaders because, well, because people can driven by emotions and group-think and localized social norms.
If the current Republican Party maintains its cohesion and membership I think what has been a generational lapse into authoritarian insanity could be a permanent shift in the American psyche. Thats even more terrifying than seeing so many people vote for Trump.
Now throw in some financial collapse due to climate change and you’ve really got an apocalypse stew going
For real. Can anyone say that they guessed this would actually be a headline 7 years ago?
I could’ve guessed a coup would happen as a result of his presidency and that he should be in prison yea. He’s a lifelong crook and criminal and we had suspicions of outside involvement in the 2016 election cycle from the instant the_donald blew up
He said ahead of the 2016 election that he wouldn’t accept the results if he lost.
Yeah, that was the moment I knew shit was gonna get weird.
Watching from this side of the pond is entertaining in a sad kind of way.
Trump is a figurehead of something above and below him that is a serious danger to democracy.
The same ideology that pushed Trump is the same ideology that created Brexit and is trying to break the NHS.
We’re all in a very dangerous boat right now.
This timeline can’t get any weirder
WHY WOULD YOU PUT THIS THOUGHT INTO THE UNIVERSE AS A CHALLENGE
If we’re going though planet scale catastrohpic events, at least sprinkle some comedy in there haha
I like you. You’re pretty alright.
Don’t say that!
David Grusch: Hold my beer
I’m having trouble locating a clip, but Patton Oswalt had a bit about a decade ago about the anomie the country felt when Nixon resigned and then got on TV and flew away in a helicopter.
I feel like Trump finally getting booked will be a similar feeling.
Crazy if you like ultimate inequality and hate for all people especially homeless that can’t afford $3,000 in rent each month.
Its even crazier when you realize many of those that struggle are the ones that vote for people that promise to make their lives even more shitty.
It hasn’t been since 2016? Or 2001?
I feel like it all kinda went sideways starting around 2014ish (2016 certainly kicked it up a gear). Maybe I died then and it’s all some sort of 6th sense bullshit
It started when the Supreme Court handed the presidency to W despite him losing the election. Once that mask was fully off, so were all the rules.
I’m halfway across the world and it’s been a crazy ride watching a country disgrace itself while also tearing itself to pieces.
I’ll believe it when I see it, but god damn is that a sexy headline.
I swear to god if I have another BBQ where I invite everyone, hire caterers and get a custom cake and this fucking turd slips out of his jail cell again I’m gonna flip my shit.
Yeah don’t have a BBQ. He will have a bond agreement in place before surrendering so likely he will bond out immediately.
If you read a headline that he got convicted in court and sentenced to prison time, then schedule the BBQ
Hell, I’m going to schedule a parade and fireworks.
Stop on over!
he’s going to “surrender to jail” because that’s what this step of the process is called. he’s not actually going to be locked up
So do you like bratwurst or burgers?
I prefer syrup
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Both.
I’ll believe it when I see the mugshot.
Haha I remember a couple months ago at his first arraignment, Trump’s team actually wanted a mugshot for the merch, and photoshopped one up when NY DA didn’t oblige.
He will finally get his wall.
Four of them at 6 by 8 feet.
What is this, a prison for African-Americans? Tangerine turd if convicted will almost certainly be sentenced to a Club Fed, assigned the Vlad V. Putin suite, daily Bingo at 2pm, dinner at 4, and country kitchen buffet Fridays.
What does surrender mean? Will he actually spend any time in a cell?
No. He’ll be arrested, fingerprinted, photographed, and released.
Wait, do I understand correctly that he has to drop in to jail now (to register himself?) and then he’s free for another 6 months before the hearings commence?
Yup.
It’ll probably be years before he’s actually in prison, and then it’ll probably be “house arrest” because secret service doesn’t want to just cut bait.
They really should cut bait. Protecting a traitor is a worse look than the traitor getting shanked in jail
The Mar-a-lago Federal Super-Maximum Security Prison.
Has a nice ring to it.
Eh. I just want him somewhere he can see the world move on and forget about him.
Preferably someplace relatively uncomfortable. Coachroaches. Big ass spiders. Maybe them japanese centipedes…
Fulton County Jail has bedbugs, so there’s that
he’s…not staying… sadly.
Big-Ass Spiders or Big Ass-Spiders?
Colombia tried this in Medellin some time ago and if I remember correctly it went well.
Lmao
Yea, but the trial wont start in 6 months. Legal analysts are saying it will be 2-3 years before the trial starts, because the prosecutor is trying all 19 people at once, they each get to make their own motions and requests to delay and all the legal procedural stuff that happens before a trial, but 19 times, and each one has to be heard by the judge and ruled on.
It’s believed his federal cases will be tried and ruled on before the jury is even seated in this Georgia case.
Might be faster if the people with no money to defend themselves turn state’s evidence
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The American system doesn’t actually work and needs to be modded, that’s what it shows, and people need to be willing to change their moral outlook to make it happen. That doesn’t mean accepting torture or the other stupid horrific shit people decided was okay back in the 00’s. It means come up with and try a newer, better system based on today’s technology and values.
This is nested so deep in such an old thread no one will see it, but I thought I’d chime in anyway.
This system in NL - indeed much of the EU/UK - is almost this slow too. Part of it (in the EU) is we do not use common law system like N America and the UK but rather the civil law system. But that only accounts for a part of it. Here we really do have the innocent before proven guilty thing happening. Most countries do not allow suspects full name to appear in the paper. Dave Smith would be “D Smith” in a newspaper article.
It can really suck here too, and frankly we get people offending while awaiting trial far more often than we should. I think the main difference is that in general we do not have the same level of violent (physical or economical) crime that the States does.
Anyway as a former American I shit on American systems a lot and in many cases rightfully so. But not in this case, as much as I desperately wish the Georgia trial would start the next day after he surrenders.
That sounds so painfully slow
Well that’s disappointing. I understand why this is not the headline. Not click-baity enough.
this guy is definitely fleeing the country
He can’t. He’s minded by Secret Service agents
Wasn’t there a rumor making the rounds that the Secret Service is actually permeated by right-wing sympathizers? To the extent that they conveniently erased all archived text/digital communications between agents back in Jan 6? Story here
Given that backdrop I wouldn’t be surprised if they will be complicit in his escape.
Whenever a conservative bitches about The Deep State I roll my eyes. It has been around for decades and it’s on their side. There’s a reason Biden changed his security detail.
They are just bragging.
They’re gonna find him stuck halfway through his bathroom window on the 24th
The very best agents too
He’ll try it regardless
Fleecing*
Oh wait both fit…
Hmm… that’s going to hurt his chances of getting elected again.
No way amigo, it’s already established by Rs that he can run the country as a convict. By extension he could run the country equally effective from mother Russia. There’s still 70 million people that’d vote for that.
There’s still 70 million people that’d vote for that.
I don’t think so.
Do you really think he’s going to fly to Russia now? He’s got so much cash sitting in supporters pockets left and maybe a few years left to take it.
Now if he’s found guilty, yeah, I can see him running then rather than go to jail. But not yet.
Ah, if only he was a flight risk … I’d set the bail low to encourage him … But no
he’s going to be “processed” then released on bail.
everything about his criminal proceedings have been basically the truck hitting bollard gif
https://67.media.tumblr.com/13cab760bc3b62c6408034017db27846/tumblr_o96e4q9rNV1qezukdo1_1280.gif
Outstanding analogy and follow up gif
Why must you impose this cursed gif on us
because I saw yet another thread about how trump is being punished, when nothing has happened to him for the past 4 years. Double impeachment? Big whoop. wake me up when he gets brought down a peg.
Trump:
Look I’ve consulted with our medical doctors, and they’re going to check it, and these doctors, they’re the best in the business you know? Huuuuuge. Hugest doctors that have ever doctored, best we’ve ever seen. Ever. And these are good doctors with tremendous skills. They’ve been studying this new thing that - and I’m not sure if you have heard of this as it’s groundbreaking, tremendous stuff, this knowledge that we have. But they’ve been talking to this Theranos doctor. At least I think she’s a doctor, she has this doctor team and I think she has the knowledge of a doctor. So anyway this doctor has a huge voice, deepest I’ve ever heard, the kind of voice that gets things done. And so I says to this doctor, supposing you brought this Theranos inside the body. Which you can do, either through the skin or in some other way, and she says she can’t bring Theranos into the body because it’s a huge building or whatever because I wasn’t really listening to the details, but she has some things she’s gonna test. And this Theranos stuff she does with her other doctors, it’s the best stuff to help stop prison you know? And she says, she’s done something similar in order to keep out of prison, something she researched with her team to bring a baby inside the body to stay out of prison. Supposing that could happen for me, or for anyone who doesn’t want prison, you know? Are we gonna look into that, if I can bring a baby inside my body? She says she’s gonna test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see conspiracy and Truth, my version of truth, the best there ever was, and I heard that it knocks out things like prison in a minute. One minute, it’s crazy! Absolutely crazy. Is there a way we can do something llike that? Supposing we can inject truth inside the body, by injection or almost like a cleaning? To keep me out of prison. And she says we’re gonna look into that, too. And these aren’t rumors you know, this is the real stuff right here. Maybe you can, maybe you can’t? And again I say maybe you can, maybe you can’t because I’m not a doctor. But I’m like a person who has a good… uh, you know what. I think it’s a great thing to look at. And look, I’m the former president and you guys are fake news.
All right, you convinced me, I’m putting “Trump pregnant” on my 2024 bingo card.
This is great. Feels kinda like chat GPT wrote it but even if that’s the case it’s hilarious
Here was my inspiration for writing that:
Trump floats dangerous coronavirus treatment ideas as Dr Birx looks on (Duration: 1:58 minutes):
- YouTube link - https://youtu.be/BalDN6iGYpE
- Alternative Piped link, the privacy-respecting YouTube experience - https://piped.video/watch?v=BalDN6iGYpE
Is that one of those rich people jails, where you are basically in a vacation?
Nah, it’s pretty famous for being a shithole. You can see for yourself in the Johnny Cash concert footage.
Wasn’t that Folsom, not Fulton?
Yes, but Fulton is still a well known shithole. Like, inmates keep dying there.
It’s a place where he’ll be booked, printed, (mugshot?) And then released. He won’t be inside a cell.
More like one of those federal, pound-me-in-the-ass prisons
“One of those rich people jails” ahh yes the rich people COUNTY JAIL.
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they won’t put him in jail
No probably not yet anyways. He is just going to get his mug shot and finger prints and to hear the charges against him I think. Maybe some other stuff. But then he will go home and come back for his trial.
I’m not a legal expert it’s just already happened to this same man 3 times lol
he will not go through processing. he will not be put in handcuffs, will not have his mugshot taken or his fingerprints made.
Seems like he will be.
“The statement from the Fulton County sheriff’s office addressed the key question of where the former president would be arrested and processed as a criminal defendant.”
from here https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/fulton-county-jail-trump/index.html
yeah I understand and I’ve done it myself. I just don’t see it happening to him. a former president with a lifetime secret service escort is hard to put in a jail. id love to see it.
I doubt he’ll be arrested, but he will be fingerprinted and have a mugshot done.
That, in and of itself, is a good thing. Wish I could be a fly on the wall there to see it.
I’ll believe it when I see it but boy howdy, do I want to see it!
He’ll die of old age before setting foot in an actual cell.
I hope to be wrong but I doubt it.
Yeah guarantee that fat fuck will pull a Milosevic or Ken Lay* and die before we can get any sense of closure.
*I read a somewhat credible conspiracy theory that Lay faked his death, wouldn’t surprise me. I’m not worried about trump doing that though because he’d never be able to lay low with his mouth shut lol
Old fat guys have a way of just dying before consequences catch up with them. Look at madoff
I can’t wait to see his actual height and weight. This lop of dumps mugshot is gonna be hilarious
It’s a “photo op” to him. I’m calling it.
Don’t forget the louse powder and the fire hose.
I feel sorry for the guy who has to search his ass for contraband.
They can keep him and throw the key away…
