After a voter said he found it “astonishing” that Haley hadn’t used the word “slavery” at any point in her answer, she asked, “What do you want me to say about slavery?”
“I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run — the freedoms and what people could and couldn’t do,” Haley said at the beginning of her response.
She went on to say: “I think it always comes down to the role of government and what the rights of the people are. And I will always stand by the fact that I think government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the people. It was never meant to be all things to all people.
Darned guv’ment trampling the rights of slaveholders.
I always love the, “it was about state’s rights,” people.
Yes, you’re absolutely correct. It was about the state’s right to let rich white men own black people.
technically I believe the south was more so mad that the northern states passed laws that allowed slaves to become free people once they escaped north. Then, the south couldn’t reclaim their slaves and they got mad and threatened a war. So it was actually the northern states’ rights that started a lot of the feuding.
The fugitive slave law was in effect at the outbteak of the civil war and wasn’t repealed until 1864.
It wasn’t though. My state (Ohio) was stopped from freeing all people who cross our borders. We were stopped from refusing to reenslave and return people who escaped to our state. We wanted to do these things and the states that seceded blocked us from doing them. Then when they seceded they openly banned abolition of slavery in their constitution. Meanwhile 4 union states were permitted to allow slavery to continue until after the war. Those 4 states were the last states to see abolition.
From the confederate perspective the civil war was about the right of white people to own black people no matter what.
They actually had the state right to let rich white men own black people before they separated. States choosing to ban slavery scared the rich southern slave owners.
The Confederacy made it a federal right. The poor southerners were literally convinced to fight and die to not be allowed to make their own state laws on the matter.
And I will always stand by the fact that I think government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the people.
So people in slavery weren’t “people”, Haley?
Her answer reminds me of that old Miss America 1/5 of Americans can’t identify America on a map question.
She’s certainly speaking to her audience, absolute morons.
They actually think the South was the side fighting for freedom, and the good guys lost. These psychos are trying to be the only ones in charge of everything.
I don’t find it astonishing. Let’s stop pretending like the GOP isn’t a group of racist, fascist assholes.
There’s nothing to wonder about here. Nikki Haley is, like the rest of the GOP, perfectly fine with white supremacy and everything that comes of it up to and including slavery.
I’m not sure that it’s true that she is “fine with white supremacy” but you’re right that she is likely trying to appeal to those that are.
Based on what little I know about her, (like most politicians) she wants to win, and will say whatever the “correct” words are to get the most pepple vote for her. She’s also trying to win over trumpers, and she knows to dance around certain topics to do that. Problem for her is she is starting to come across as spineless in the media, which is the opposite of how (I think) trumpers see their Orange-Supreme-Leader
But yeah, she also gives off a vibe of being more rational and moderate which is what makes her a credible threat to Biden. (So I’m glad that she’s fucking things up for herself, and if she can continue to put her foot in her mouth that’s a plus)
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She’s pulling a Ron Desantis. We had actual Nazi’s in full bullshit in Florida holding his signs and promoting him as governor and he wouldn’t disavow them. She is cut from the same cloth, she wants their support.
State Right to enslave people. That is the primary cause and what it was being fought over.
You are right technically that they fought over that. But they fought to get rid of that state right, which they already had. The Confederacy made it a constitutional, federal right.
The south fought and died to get rid of their own rights for the benefit of the rich.
You know you’re living in the craziest timeline when the party of Lincoln is more evil than the actual Church of Satan.
Hasn’t been the party of Lincoln ever since the parties switched due to the southern strategy.
She can go lower, she’ll do anything for power
This woman will end Union (or at least tries her hardest) as we know it. She’s the biggest union buster and she’s proud of it. Corporation love her so much
I don’t believe that Nimarata thinks about black people enough for slavery to have even registered in her consciousness.
It’s just how you have to frame it if you’re a Republican in the south. She knows what it was about, but didn’t want to say the words because it would upset a good chunk of her electorate.
