• Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      21 hours ago

      I have someone related to me that took in a stray Maine Coon cat that was actually a Bob cat and they didn’t find out until the first vet visit. I think it had to go to some zoo or like Sanctuary place because they had it for quite a while and were feeding it like regular wet cat food.

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      A wolf is a massive animal, usually not white, usually in packs, and usually skittish or downright aggressive. It’s fake. But cool story.

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        It’s fake because it’s yukon. They don’t have internet in yukon. Or people… never mind a school.

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              "A wolf is a

              1. "massive animal,
              2. "usually not white,
              3. "usually in packs, and
              4. "usually skittish or downright aggressive.

              Still 3 strong reasons the story is more likely to be fake.

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                Dude, the article I linked literally mentions solitary wolves walking more than 500 km in search of a mate. Sure they “usually” move in packs, but that is what makes this story unusual, not impossible.

                “Massive” is relative. To a child a 30 kg dog is massive.

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                They are not bigger than big dogs, they aren’t always in packs, and they’re skittish yeah but not usually that aggressive. This story could well be fake but it’s perfectly plausible.

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                  It probably helps that OP wasn’t scared. He didn’t act like a prey animal and flee, which can trigger hunting instincts. I also can’t help but wonder if the wolf recognized a human child as being “young.” I know dogs can do that - I’ve seen them change behavior around tiny humans and tolerate things from them that they wouldn’t tolerate from adults. Granted, domesticated dogs have had many generations to acclimate themselves to us, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a wild wolf recognized that OP was a “human puppy” and not a significant threat.

                  Also, OP had food, and considering the wolf went right for the pop tart when it was thrown, it’s possible such a sociable, intelligent creature was playing nice in hopes of being given some all along.

                  Who knows? I’d say it’s definitely a plausible story. If the story had been about a mountain lion, I’d have my doubts. But wolves don’t usually go out of their way to antagonize humans. If some of them were able to be domesticated long ago, the same traits that brought them close to humans in the first place may still exist in the wild population.

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    Ha ha, “looks like he’s going to call HR for inappropriate contact”

    For the record, there has never been a documented attack of a healthy wolf on a person in North America. Obviously if they get rabies or distemper or something all bets are off.

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          Teyrnon is wrong because they claimed that there are no documented attacks of a healthy wolf attacking a person in northern America. In fact, there have been three lethal and 24 non-lethal documented attacks by healthy wolfs since 2000 in north America.

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            One of the fatalities is this

            Wyman was a wildlife biologist who worked as a caretaker in the Wolf Centre section of the Haliburton Forest & Wildlife Reserve. She was killed by five captive wolves on the third day of her employment.

            There’s a bunch of captivity based attacks that were not fatalities.

            Most of the attacks were solitary joggers, hikers, dog walkers etc that would have been triggering a chase instinct. One of the incidents was ambush on two people:

            Noah was awake and talking to his girlfriend when a lone wolf attacked from behind, biting his head. He kicked, screamed, punched, and grabbed, and it ran off. He was taken to the hospital, requiring 17 staples to close a large head wound and to get precautionary injections. Authorities killed the wolf the next day and sent the body for rabies and DNA testing. The wolf tested negative for rabies but was diagnosed with deformities and brain damage.

            It’s not completely out of the question that a wolf was investigating a nice smell, and after getting the prize left. Definitely fits the pattern of the animals slowly acclimatizing to human activity. That wolf wasn’t dangerous then, but it would become dangerous.

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            Yes, “no xyz” is usually an overstatement. Your counterargument seems to suggest wolf attacks are common, however, which they are not.

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      Another element that could be at play here:

      He thought it was a dog.

      Dogs, because we domesticated them, have muscles around their eyes, that allow them to make eye/eyebrow expressions.

      Wolves do not have these. Because they’re the ones we did not domesticate for millenia.

      So, if he was expecting dog expressions… wolves literally cannot make the same facial expressions.

      They essentially always look like they have RBF, in comparison to a dog.

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        It’s thought the species we domesticated was distinct from wolves of today. That species went extinct in the wild.

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          Huh! You’re right, I did not know that.

          Huskies are… much closer to being actual wolves though, genetically speaking.

          Seems like this applies to malamutes and samoyeds as well…?

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            I wonder do dingoes have them. I haven’t been able to find any information on that yet

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              My, ahem, blind guess would be probably not, as they’ve… not been widely and thoroughly domesticated for 20,000+ years?

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                Oh the genetic confirmation for dingoes to have arrived in Australia is about 8000 years ago these days. So it’s about when did the extra muscles evolve and in which genetic lines? Dingoes and the new guinea singing dog are traced to have come from the wolves domesticated in Asia, so I guess they wouldn’t have them unless they evolved independently or the genes spread before they got separated in Guinea and Australia? But then do japanese breeds also not have them since they’re from the same lines probably? I don’t know, there’s just too little information online. Or if there’s more, I can’t find it

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                  No idea what the more precise timeline is, for when and where dogs started having eyebrow muscles.

                  Maybe if we did something comparable to the Human Genome Project, but for dogs, we could figure it out, lol?

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    No, you made a wild wolf more dangerous as it has now received food after being near a human. That wolf will now approach more people to get food.

    Dog domestication took centuries to millenia. And the most dangerous predators are those that are descended from domestic or near domestic animals.

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      Both are true. Curious wolves approaching humans and getting/stealing food was very likely the first step in domestication.

      At the same time, it still holds true that it is dangerous

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        Yup, plus the friendlier ones were more likely to get fed, mean ones more likely to get killed, which resulted in more or less offspring like them. Do that for generations and voila, you’re now a French bulldog