cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/65164

In a set of fascistic speeches on Thursday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, White House power broker Stephen Miller, and other top Trump administration officials labelled the political left as a “terrorist” threat and vowed to use all of the tools at their disposal to systematically destroy left-wing groups. Representatives from 67 countries gathered in the U.S. on Thursday for a meeting…

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    8 hours ago

    Well, unfortunately for him if you go far left enough, you get your guns back… Just saying…

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    12 hours ago

    Nazis traditionally labeled people on the opposite end of their political spectrum the enemy and it’s not long before they are disappeared on a consistent basis.

    I wonder if the people who are in the place to act are going to be able to stop the next Kristallnacht before it happens.

    They already got the concentration camps in place.

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    Americans will listen to this and then just drive to their shitty jobs they hate like everything is normal. They don’t fucking care.

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      That’s basically the average the country is left with between the decent people and the tens of millions who voted for idiotic racist rapist fascism three times in a row.

      It’s like a third don’t care, a third do care, and a third are enthusiastically in favor.

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        A third “do care” as long as “caring” requires literally no real effort, risk, or sacrifice on their part. They care performatively, which is as good as not caring at all.

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            I’ll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouruh.

            Alternatively, the meme generator is from between July 4, 1959 and July 3, 1960.

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            Quit your bitching and state how you’re helping. You keyboard warriors are fucking annoying, man.

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              You don’t even know if he’s American or not.

              And even if he is, what difference does it make? You’re in a Lemmy comment section. People are going to write what they’re thinking. Even if they don’t, this sort of thing will still be in their heads. Which you can’t even blame anyone for considering how impotent the masses are in the US. Thoughts like these are perfectly understandable regardless of who it’s coming from.

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                No, they’re not “understandable”.

                people are going to write what they’re thinking

                And I’ll keep telling them how much of a useless fuck they are when, they too, aren’t putting their fucking necks out on the line to stem this.

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    17 hours ago

    These loser fascists are so devoid of talent that it appears they’re just scraping the internet for what we say about them then turning it around to fit their narrative.

    We’ve been calling conservatism a cancer for YEARS and he’s just using our own words as theirs.

    As always, conservatives/regressives have no talent or creativity. They can only steal what others create or simply destroy.

    If this nation actually brings justice back we’ll see this fascist on the chopping block.

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      All the “best” conservative arguments are just repurposed left-wing arguments that someone ran ctrl+f and replaced each identifying term with it’s counterpart.

      The infuriating part is that the reason it works is because left-wing arguments are fundamentally structured better and are more compelling. At some point in the past, a lefty made that argument to the right-winger and they could feel that they were losing the argument, so they quietly adopted the aesthetic of the same argument and later deployed it like they came up with it themselves.

      It’s why every right-wing argument has to construct a fiction where their enemy already holds all the power and has been in control for decades. Everyone can intuitively feel that they’re being scammed by an unfair system that’s rigged for the benefit of the wealthy. All right-wingers have to do is convince people that the structure of society can’t be blamed on the people with the power to shape it. They just need people to blame someone they’ve already been convinced to hate. Immigrants, minorities, queers, and anyone else who would tell them who their actual enemies are.

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        One easy way to tell the difference is that one makes their accusations based on documented facts and actions. The other makes their accusations based on the nature of the human being in question.

        Additionally, that perceived nature is usually a caricature of the actual nature in the first place.

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      You know what?

      I know in history class, they said some people ignored Hitler’s rise to power — believing he wouldn’t get very far.

      Americans thought that of Trump in 2016. Trump thought that of Trump in 2016.

      I’m at a point now where, if you’re spewing fascist shit, you’re a threat. I see you as an immediate threat, because the problem is that we haven’t been taking people like you seriously.

      Don’t get fooled a third time.

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        I see you as an immediate threat, because the problem is that we haven’t been taking people like you seriously.

        Wow, welcome to fucking 2003. Are you going to actually do something now or have you tired yourself out already?

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          2003? Hmm… I may have been barely walking around that time. Alls fair though, because that ought have been the public reaction this entire time.

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      I think a lot of people assume we have to be at full blown Nazi genocide before “fascism” or “fascist” can be reasonably used.

      Nope.

      It’s fascism now. Already. Currently happening. Here in America. Now.

      We just haven’t reached the apex…yet.

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    What confuses me about this administration is that they seem to be aiming to make any political belief or action that does not support them worthy of a lengthy prison sentence.

    … but [REDACTED] is also a lengthy prison sentence. So they’ve removed the incentive to not [REDACTED].

    In other words… why design a system where your opponents have nothing to lose? They will be pushed towards acting like they have nothing to lose.

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      Because they want an excuse to implement martial law that their base will accept. An “enemy within” that turns violent is exactly the pretense they’re stoking for this, even if it’s obvious they invented everything that caused it.

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        18 hours ago

        I see this sentiment a little more frequently than I see the following that I’ll paraphrase:

        “They’re doing this to egg on a response [so we should not give them what they want by pushing back]” is an accidental or intentional PsyOp campaign.

        If your opponent threatens to fight you if you fight back, you would choose to surrender before the fight begins?

        It’s an incredibly effective PsyOp when arguably the largest downside of anti-MAGA people is their rampant apathy, and that sentiment is like gasoline to a fire. “Oh, the enlightened response is to stay home like I did in 2024? Sick.”

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          If your opponent threatens to fight you if you fight back, you would choose to surrender before the fight begins?

          Nah, but we should wait until we know a democratic method (voting) won’t work to remove the fascists. Once we cross that line, then we can resort to the actual fighting back.

          Because the best case scenario here is that they want us to actually fight back so they can impose martial law, but we don’t, then we win by voting them out without any widespread violence and they never got to play their martial law card.

          If it doesn’t work, and we realize they’ve corrupted the electoral process and stolen an election, then we grab our pitchforks (guns) and properly do what a bunch of inbred redneck traitors failed to do on Jan 6, because they’re stupid and of course they didn’t have any semblence of an actual plan.

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            Nah, but we should wait until we know a democratic method (voting) won’t work to remove the fascists. Once we cross that line, then we can resort to the actual fighting back.

            You won’t.

            Watch.

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            “We should wait until it is too late. That will be the perfect time to act. Just a little longer…”

            Okay, if you say so. Again, accidental or intentional PsyOp.

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                I totally get that. It’s certainly why I’m not doing more.

                But “let’s not oppose them because they want opposition” is playing more into their hands than opposing them is. I get it’s a Lose-lose but let’s not go for the Lose because we don’t want to lose.

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                  yea im not arguing with that part. Im just at the point where I can’t do what I want, which is to prosecute and properly punish all these fuckers according to the laws of the country they stole.

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      The only constant goal has been to get us to turn on each other. It’s been constant for at least 10 years. I figure “destroy America from within” was Putin’s directive.

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        I wish we could just blame this on Putin but the truth is our own ruling class have been working towards this for the last 70 years.

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          Porque no los dos?

          The ruling class is generally international. Russia’s oligarchs have more in common with US oligarchs than the US working class has with either of them.

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            I don’t disagree but the concerted effort was specifically undertaken by the U.S. ruling class to undo the progress made by The New Deal and FDR. The Soviet Union of 70 years ago is drastically different than the Russia of today. Of course oligarchs are going to oligarch and at the end of the day there’s no war but the class war but wealthy Americans specifically set out to fund think tanks to shift American politics to the right.

            I feel like it’s important they own this, blaming foreign interference gives the domestic ruling class a pass they shouldn’t get.

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                The peanut butter was there first though and organized and actively worked to make the bread softer and more ignorant about salami and pepperjack.

                Jellys arrival mighti’ve been the death knell but if they’re ever put against a wall, the peanut butter should be first in line.

                We’re basically in agreement though and I’m just splitting hairs, ultimately there’s no war but the class war.

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      That’s exactly what they want. If they have nothing to lose, they fight back, then the right can point at that and use it as confirmation of their originally bullshit claims. Fascism 101.

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        I see this sentiment a little more frequently than I see the following that I’ll paraphrase:

        “They’re doing this to egg on a response [so we should not give them what they want by pushing back]” is an accidental or intentional PsyOp campaign.

        If your opponent threatens to fight you if you fight back, you would choose to surrender before the fight begins?

        It’s an incredibly effective PsyOp when arguably the largest downside of anti-MAGA people is their rampant apathy, and that sentiment is like gasoline to a fire. “Oh, the enlightened response is to stay home like I did in 2024? Sick.”

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          Oh, sorry, don’t mistake my explanation for complacency. I’m all for fighting these fascist pieces of shit by any means necessary. You’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t, might as well do.

          Label me a terrorist? I’ll show you one.

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        It’s actually an original of mine. I used it so often, i can’t even remember on which platform i used it first… Recently i updated it with the Italian flag.

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    Let’s emphasize the fact that he is not saying people who march around carrying rifles and machine guns intimidating Americans in their hometowns. Nor is he talking about people who commit mass shootings. Or people who pollute the air, water, and soil that we need to survive. No, it is people with left wing and liberal ideology, people using their freedom of speech.

    Fucking evil. I hate everybody who voted for this and everybody who didn’t bother to vote.

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      and the republican-lite crowd who never made fighting this an sort of priorirty while they committed genocide, you hate them too right.

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        Fuck off, we don’t need this “both sides same” crap in every single discussion.

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          We don’t need to blame the people who did not vote, either. But let’s be fair; there are a section of the Democrats who enabled the Republicans. Fetterman is the latest example.

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        No, because I’m not a dipshit that needs to both sides this.

        Because even if I hadn’t been paying attention to both parties for 20+ years and knew beyond question that one party was way, way, way , way, way, way, way more capable and willing to vote in favor of average Americans, I still wouldn’t be stupid enough to both sides this because one side is just so obviously better than the other, and in the current political climate, and for the foreseeable future, one of those two sides will be in power at any given time.

        TL;DR - Take this trash both sides garbage to a platform stupid enough to fall for it.

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      Fucking evil. I hate everybody who voted for this and everybody who didn’t bother to vote.

      Oh yeah, All those Leftists who famously vote blue no matter who. With all that hate in your heart are you sure you aren’t a Republican?

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        Leftists don’t vote blue no matter who. With all that confusion are you sure you’re not conflating leftists and liberals?

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          A lot of people misunderstood the original comment you replied to. They know leftists don’t vote blue no matter who. They were bullying the original commenter for talking down to “everybody who didn’t bother to vote”.

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        I can hate them and not be actively trying to take away their freedoms. I can hate them, and see them as humans. That’s the difference. Republican politicians dehumanize the “other” to make their racism, fascism, and the attack on civil liberties more “palatable”.