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    Reminds me of some state laws that have been voted for, and sometimes even enacted, that defined PI as three (or worse, even 4). Just because an uneducated jokel in the White House signed a piece of paper, scientific reality won’t just bend to his wishes.

    What’s next? Will he declare Ohms law illegal? Forbid gravity?

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    lol so you can just sign executive orders to declare new facts into reality? why don’t you declare people can fly, that would be cool.

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    I literally have to wonder if my NC Birth Certificate (updated to reflect my Gender Affirming Care) will still be valid or if I’ll get a letter saying they found an “Error” and “corrected it”

    I have to worry about the Government turning my boyfriend into a homosexual by declaring me a man, how the fuck do we even get here?

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      I’m sure soon the Xestapo will pay a visit to deliver your new corrected documents

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    Even setting aside people’s gender identity, 1.7% of the population is intersex. A law can’t make that untrue.

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    They’d have to shoot me before I will ever deny my own womanhood. Not even with a gun to my head would I call myself a man. I lived in a closet for 18 years and it nearly killed me. It damaged me in ways I have to live with forever. I am a woman. They can say whatever the fuck they want it won’t change that. I will not bow my head. If it comes to it, I’ll die with my back straight, proud of who I am.

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      Be strong. This harassment is a smokescreen to hide their own weaknesses. 2026 is our chance to reset Congress and mitigate the damage until that asshat leaves. Maybe we’ll even get lucky and he’ll croak early.

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      Same sister, I’ll happily die a woman if the alternative is living as a man. Gender affirming care is the reason I didn’t have to make that choice, and I may have to decide again…

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      You and me! I’m also gay and there’s no way they’ll ever step over me like that. We’ve suffered way too much collectively to lie down at their feet. It’s time to fight back–again!

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      Glad you’re here. As a fellow LGBTQ+ card carrying member, we are going to keep fighting even harder. Let this presidency radicalize you.

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      You have a lot of allies who feel similarly about being forced to be cruel to people we love and care about. Let’s live through these terrible times with our humanity intact.

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      Proud of you, but seriously, be careful? Emigrate to a country where people are treated like humans, perhaps? You might even be able to request asylum.

      Just don’t get yourself killed because some psycho said something stupid

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      If you’re a woman then this doesn’t affect you.

      I think it only affects nonbinary folks.

      Edit: why was I downvoted for this?

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        Edit: why was I downvoted for this?

        Because it very clearly does affect trans women? So either you’re not paying attention or you’re denying trans women their womanhood. Either way, downvote.

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            If you missed it in the article:

            The order… directs the State Department… to “ensure that official government documents, including passports and visas, reflect sex accurately,” one of the officials said.

            That’s fucking terrible and possibly detrimental for the mental health of trans people.

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                If you have a passport or drivers license that says “M” and you are in a dress and full face of makeup, are you physically safe?

                I have a drivers license that says “M” and have a beard. This EO (and state law) say that it should have an “F.” When I was a broke college student, and it did say “F” but I had a beard, I could barely find work scrubbing shit off bleachers with face tattooed ex cons. I had to do sex work. If I get to that point again I will just kill myself. And I did just lose my job lol.

                Background checks still occasionally fuck me - I had a job let me work there for a week and then they tried not to pay me because the background check revealed I was trans. I spent months fighting for money, because I was ducking desperate, because I was going through a divorce where I was getting fucked for being a crazy tranny there too.

                Documentation fucking matters. This is how they are trying to kill us.

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                The article quote I linked says sex. If a person is pre-op or not choosing surgery, they will forced to have the wrong gender on their docs.

                I’m in Canada, your docs say what you identify as under “sex”.

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    Even ignoring socially constructed gender identities, in the case of biological sexes, this is scientifically wrong. The world doesn’t fit into neat little boxes like these people think it does

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    Congrats to all the “both sides are the same” folks who stayed home and handed this election to Trump.

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      Non-American here, but do you also plan on asking the Democratic Party to suck marginally less in addition to bashing non-voters?

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      65,000,000 eligible voters don’t vote. Should have fought harder to get those butts off the couch to vote than just “but Trump”. If you don’t excite the base, they’re not going to go out and vote.

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        That’s pretty rich coming from you, yo. How much time and how many posts did you spend dragging Biden and Harris during election season to have a surprised Pikachu reaction? I bet there’s a number with at least 2 zeros you are PERSONALLY responsible for dissuading from going to the ballot box.

        Maybe the options arent exciting, but they weren’t both coming to drink your milkshake.

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        I feel like if we were in a horror movie, and I told you Michael Myers was coming to kill us, you would have just sat there telling me you’re tired and I need a reason for you to get up beyond “but Michael”

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          So was appealing to right wing voters and alienating huge portions of the populations. In fact the Democratic Party took a LOT more ‘actions’ to lose this election than the people who stayed home did. Put your anger where it belongs for fucks sake.

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            Any US citizen who was ok with Trump winning probably isn’t left wing.

            Anyone left-wing US citizen who wasn’t ok with Trump winning but didn’t vote (assuming their vote mattered) is probably misguided at best.

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              You people are literally hopeless. Keep attacking your fellow people and never hold your politicians accountable. Thats working out great.

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                Can’t both be criticized? I’m mad at people so disconnected they don’t care to vote for a Capitolistic oligarchy over a Fascist oligarchy just like I’m mad at the Capitolistic oligarchy for not being better at understanding/representing the voter base. You call for unity about party reform and then use phrases like, “you people are literally helpless.” It comes across as very hippocritical.

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            Look at the dislikes, democrat supporters always double-down on their denial

            At this point they deserve to lose

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        Preventing fascism isn’t exciting. It’s a necessity. It’s the civic equivalent of brushing your teeth.

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          Yeah that doesn’t work. Making that argument again and again and not responding to the above critique is why Trump won.

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              Or here me out, they saw both sides as moraly reprehensable, not neccisarily equaly so, but enough that they would not be able to sleep at night giving either of them their vote, and tasid suport for what they are doing. As much as people here like to claim your really voting aganst the other guy, the vote is still for one side.

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              There was a lot of propaganda going around, but the Dems decided their message was to be in denial about the economy and to court the Republicans who were too sexist to vote for a woman anyway.

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                The problem is the Democrats told the truth about the economy. They said it was getting better slowly over time and that prices were never going to go back to what they were before Covid. People would rather hear Trump’s comfortable lies than face the uncomfortable truth.

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                  The economy was getting better if you base “the economy” on stock values. The way politicians, especially neoliberals, measure the health of the economy is fundamentally misaligned with the experience of the average person. That’s on purpose though. They care more about the wealthy than the people.

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                  Regular people associate “the economy” with their own subjective bubble. Regular people are dumb as fuck and the Dems shouldn’t pretend like we are a country with free education where people make collected and informed decisions.

                  Despite the dems prepping the macro economy to distibute wealth to workers, the workers did not feel that wealth.

                  It was a good economy for transitioning us to EVs, bad for affording human needs.

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        Biden hopefully will be the last “must secure the center” democrat. The winner in American elections is the one that has their base turn out more. If you do things to appease the center at the expense of the base, expect to loose.

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          Considering there’s no one from any left aligned party holding district wide, state wide or better. This comment is at best delusional.

          If us leftists were the panacea many like to paint us as. We’d already be holding more offices than we do. Regardless of the NeOlIBeRaLs!

          I think they’d do well to move more leftward. Benefitting the common man. Marginalizing any sort of economic liberal. But a lot is going to have to happen before that. And even then we will still need them more than they need us. Because honestly what’s the left’s excuse otherwise? We could if we wanted to, and oh you wouldn’t know our voters. She lives in Canada?

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            Oh it’s a joy to see a smart leftist, I know it’s not much but You give me a tiny bit of hope

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          Unfortunately the Neolibs would rather burn the country to the ground than lose control of the Democratic party

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        Maybe this needed to happen as a matter of karma and punishment, for complacency and stupidity. Its just a sin others have to suffer for morons who dont know any better.

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          It already happened in 2016 though.

          People are crazy if they think this will be the time the Dems learn their lesson. They haven’t learned it for decades.q

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            no joke, I’d take the last time any day of the fucking week, the world is infinitely worse position for a manchild and an entourage of tech fascists to be taking power, we’re essentially already in the opening stage of WW3 because of Putin’s fantasies.

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                too late to solve the problems by legal means, sure.

                but if they make a move on anyone, like for real. there’s gonna be bodies on both sides. they aren’t the only ones with weapons. and worse for them, they’ve convinced some people they have nothing to lose now.

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          I doubt it as I’m gonna be punished for this even though I did everything I was supposed to.

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        Well they can be excited about the new gender options now

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      I don’t think it’s fair to attribute his winning the election on people that didn’t vote for Kamala. Young white men came out in droves voting for him - we cannot underestimate the political results of figures like Joe Rogan, Andrew Tate, and Ben Shapiro and the kind of rhetoric they’re able to spread.

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        Young people overall still went for Harris by the largest margin of any age group. The story is overwhelmingly one about turnout. The overall turnout was down 3% and the drop happened mostly in demographic groups that lean Democratic.

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      White men/women, and hispanic men were the demographics that stayed home

      The youth vote didn’t change in any meaningful way

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      Congrats to all the “democrats can do no wrong, so please ignore Biden’s ongoing genocide” who seriously thought they could get Arab Americans in Dearborn to vote for a man carrying out genocide against their brothers and sisters.

      Sure… definitely NOTHING wrong with the democratic strategy. All of our problems are because people simply didn’t vote correctly.

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        I don’t think anyone was saying they could do no wrong, they were just saying if you think America’s support for Isreal was bad under the Democrates, just wait and see how much worse it’ll be under Trump. Basically anywhere an non-maga someone was critical of how the democrats were doing things, the GOP’s plans were further removed from what those particular people wanted.

        So yeah, seems like they voted wrong in that case.

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      I have a joke about this:

      Someone once asked a Republican what he thought about a shooting in a Queer bar, he responded “thats horrible, I hear a Muslim did it. Those dirty savages will never integrate with western values”.

      So the person responded “oh so do you care about queer people now?”, he responded “of course not, they harm womens rights”.

      So the person responded “oh so do you support womens rights now?”, he responded “of course not, I think the rights of children should take precedence”.

      So he responded “oh so do you care about the children now?”, he responded “of course not, they’re leaches on society. I only support hardworking Americans”.

      So he responded “Oh so do you support workers rights now?”, he responded “of course not, workers today are lazy, I support only the good religious Jewish and Christian workers”

      So he responded “Oh so do you support Jewish people now?”, he responded “Of course not, I hear they’re extremely Islamaphobic”

      So he responded “Oh so do you support Muslim people now?”, he responded “of course not, I hear one of them shot up a queer bar”

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      Fascists.

      Edit: Whenever the question is “Who could possibly be helped by this?” the answer is “Fascists.”

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          Fascists need an “other” to demonize. They delight in the cruelty towards the “other”. The executive order gives them a sense of accomplishment, further strengthening the group bonds as they enjoy the suffering of the “other” together.

          It really is as simple as “the cruelty is the point”. It helps them because they desire to inflict cruelty, and this gives them a method for doing so.

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            I don’t think he delights in anything but having people tell him how great he is. This is textbook fascism. You got the part right thay they need an other group to demonize, just don’t think there is even that much depth to them.

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              And the lesson the rank-and-file never seem to learn is once the other is eliminated, the fascists always turn inward, and begin eliminating each other. Unfortunately, their death toll is always quite high once they implode – sometimes in the millions.

              It’s a death cult, though, and no matter how white or pious or privileged you think you are, they will come for you once they run out of ‘proper’ enemies, because without an enemy, fascism is nothing.

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              Oh I should have been more clear: Trump’s supporters delight in cruelty towards others. You’re right that Trump just does whatever makes his supporters cheer for him; he’s a textbook narcissist who craves attention. “Build the wall” for example, was a talking point his advisers gave him. He apparently thought it was stupid, but when his crowds of supporters cheered for it he went on to make it central to his campaign and identity.

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          Because it is a clear demonstration of “We can do whatever the fuck we want, and you can’t stop us,” as well as a warning: “Don’t piss us off, or we’re going to do it to you next.”

          !Resist@fedia.io

          Edit: Also a message to other fascists: “You can do whatever you want, and they can’t stop you.”

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          It gives justification for discrimination. To make people who disagree or are affected less than human and thus atrocities against them do not count as atrocities.

          No different than colonization or slavery. “We know better and will show them the error of their ways/put them in their place by force and systematic discrimination”.

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        No, not at all, but typically politicians frame it that way. They gave up on that, I guess. Now it’s just who can I hurt.

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          There’s loads of historical examples of policies in acted to hurt people

          …because those people are “inferior” people

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    Just ignore the outrage machine and focus on what things you can do to help. The outrage is only to make you tired. Sue when you must, support businesses, organizations, and politicians you agree with financially, vote in every election, don’t add to any problem, and ignore Trump and his minions to the best extent you can.

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    whats next, an executive order stating black people are only 3/5th of a white person? c02 isnt rising in volume in the atmosphere? that he isnt a literal hitler wannabe?

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      You’re making jokes, but yes. This is a man that drew on a map with a sharpie to change the course of a hurricane. There’s nothing stopping him from blatantly lying about the reality that is right in front of our faces.

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    I’ve always said, religious people and puritans of all stripes seem way too concerned by other people’s genitals. Just like perverts.

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    I wonder what their approach to intersex people will be…

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        Please, anyone who reads this, stop posting links to the mobile version of Wikipedia. It doesn’t switch automatically on PC, and I see it happen all the time. Just take the half a second to remove the “.m” from the beginning of the link, save everyone else from the pain of having to be surprised by it and taking the time to do it themselves.

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          Ignoring the content of the link, and following this passive and erroneous line of discussion: I did it on a phone, not on a PC where you on the PC can more easily change it. Not going to be scolded because I strictly didn’t follow your arbitrary rules.

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            You can’t edit text on your phone? How are you posting these comments?

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            I only complain because I see it happen a lot, and because Wikipedia automatically corrects links for mobile users but not desktop ones. It’s not intended to be scolding, just a request for you to be more aware of such things.

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              Then request Wikipedia change their web design for bifurcating mobile users into a subdomain. The CSS is detecting the browser implementation anyways, so do it all on the backend in one single domain.

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                For real, I’m not going to make your problem my problem, this is a wikipedia issue, you’re in the wrong channels.

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      Well, Trump says there are only two biological genders, but he said nothing about what percentage of each a person is allowed to have.