“bUt iT’s oNLy tHe dAnGeRoUs oNeS!”
I loathe law-and-order rhetoric in any nation, but most certainly in America. Tough On Crime policies have led to the dumbest fucking things that have ever existed in the United States. People are voting for a serial liar and conman who will probably ship them off to Dijbouti or El Salvador just to stay away from someone who broke the law once, or who is likely to break the law. The lesson we should all learn is to stop going nuts over “crime waves”. If the news claims that crime is “going through the roof” or that there is an “epidemic of crime”, make sure to remember:
- There are way, way bigger threats to public safety than a few gangbangers, for example tech companies, evangelicals, and Nazis.
- Criminals are people too. They have hopes and dreams, motives, economic conditions, and opinions. Consider why someone is committing a murder or robbery, rather than assuming it’s because of greed.
- There are for-profit security forces and prisons that all benefit from fear of crime. The news will often blow crime out of proportion to satisfy their sponsors, and downplay authoritarianism likewise.
- Police officers are often just as dangerous as criminals. It’s better to think of crime as a situation that can be escalated and de-escalated (cops are notoriously bad at this) than as the result of Bad People who need Good People to stop them.
- There are a lot of good resources for reading about crime in a productive way. Although I am not quite Anarchist, the Anarchist Library has a lot of thought-provoking material on what makes law just and unjust. There’s a big difference between “murder is wrong because the Law says so” and “murder is wrong because killing people is wrong”.
- Some people are so evil that they need to be killed, i.e. Real Estate CEOs.
lol “Latinas for trump”
Sheep for the wolf
If you voted for Trump then this is 100% what you specifically voted for. I’m tired of hearing this line, it’s bullshit. He was barking about literally everything he is doing the entire time, everyone else was pointing out that this is exactly what he was saying, if you genuinely didn’t think this is what he was all about the entire time then you are an idiot and the exact kind of tool they were asking you to be.
Fuck every single person who voted for this.
Or didn’t vote. Those people are even worse than maga in my opinion.
Yeah, not voting for any of the bad options is a lot worse than voting for the worst option.
MAGA voted for what they wanted: they are getting excellent representation. Their wildest political fantasies are being enacted right now. The people who didn’t vote at all - especially those who pretended the democrats are somehow just as bad as the literal fascists currently in power - they just shrugged off their responsibilities as democratic citizens and let the country be ruined by a minority of racist shitheads. The election result wasn’t 50/50, but closer to 33/33/33: one third of Americans wanted white christian fascism, one third adamantly did not, and one third said, “fascism, democracy - what’s the difference?”
I wouldn’t say worse, but equally idiotic. Not voting doesn’t absolve you from causing the result.
Not voting in 2020 would actually have been the optimal outcome for the country. Objectively, we would have been far, far better off if a large number of Democrats had stayed home in 2020, allowing Trump to get a second term then instead of now. Democrats focused on short-term expediency by forcing Biden through. They won the election in 2020, but at what a terrible price. Instead of a flailing second Trump term with Trump as a lame duck, Democrats gave Trump four more years to regroup, strategize, and come up with Project 2025. Democrats chose the cheap and easy solution in 2020, and every one of us is paying for it now.
Your strategy has some merit, but it fails in that it only considers short-term, rather than long-term thinking. Your victories end up temporary and ultimately Pyrrhic.
Voting for today’s lesser of two evils only works if you’re a goldfish with no memory of history.
Project 2025 is not from yesterday. Do you even know what the Heritage Foundation is?
This(project 2025) has been in the works for decades.
You have very little understanding of what is going on. You are the very goldfish you argue against.
Yes, they’ve tried for years. But they actually managed to properly plan it this time. Do you honestly believe there’s no difference between Trump in 2024 and Trump in 2020? They have completely different cabinets. Hell, we would have had Pence as VP. The administration is run by entirely different people. They were a lot more careful about selecting for avowed loyalists this time. Trump winning in 2020 would have completely denied them this chance to reorganize. We would have objectively been much, much better off if a second Trump term came in 2020 than in 2024.
You have very little understanding of what is going on.
This time? And I’m the ignorant one. Hahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Have a great life and I hope you can avoid the hand of fascism.
So this, the current situation, is the optimal outcome for you? Really?
You’re going to break your arms if you keep jerking yourself off that hard, you know?
You have poor reading comprehension.
You have poor situational understanding and garbage political takes.
You know, there’s no law of nature dictating that Trump had to get a second term. If people had voted democrat in 2024 and 2028, Trump would just not have had a second term.
There was such a law. Not a law of nature, but that’s a silly high bar that you’re imposing. It was widely predicted that Biden would fail to enact the changes needed to prevent a MAGA return. I remember thinking that would happen the day Biden won the election.
Your post outlines the type of thinking that so damns us. You view every election as a completely independent event, as if they have zero influence on one another. Biden was a milquetoast centrist. He governed that way his entire adult life. It was eminently predictable, and many predicated, that he would fail to stop MAGA. Maybe you didn’t want to listen to those predictions, but that’s failing on your part.
Your view is that voters are always to blame, and that if the party chooses a bad candidate, well the voters are still to blame. You expect voters to show up and vote D election after election after election, even if the party repeatedly fails to live up to its promises and betrays its voters time and time again.
Sorry. Objectively, the best outcome would have been if Trump won in 2020. A Trump victory in 2020 would have been much, much preferable to one in 2024.
But you view each election as an isolated event. Every election is the most important one in history, and we’re never allowed to think strategically long term.
This short term thinking is why Republicans control the government. Republicans can think long term. Liberals like yourself can’t.
Voting to stop fascism is primordial and you cannot argue against that unless you are a fascist.
You make it sound like there was no choice between fascism and normalcy.
In fact, there was a choice to stop fascism but people decided not to vote because Israel.
And now Israel is better off and the genocide will be fulfilled.
With Harris, there would have been a status quo and a chance to stop the genocide. Trump and Israel are cut from the same cloth of fascism. So genocide on!!!
Thanks protest non-voters, you couldn’t have made it much worse for Palestine if you tried to.
There you go again. Blame the protestors for actions that others caused in conditions others created. Forget about the DNC, Biden, Harris … they had no control over their own policies, did they? Of course not!
Yes, I blame those who voted for trump and those who abstained. Those who abstained are worse in my opinion because they either willfully ignored fascism or are too stupid to realize what was going on.
We all have control over who we vote for and there is no excuse to ignore that fascism is live and awake.
Yes. Yes it is. It’s exactly what you voted for. Everyone tried to warn you but you were too fucking focused on dumb, single issue voter shit. You got exactly what you voted for. Enjoy it!
I am also very confused. They had ‘Mass Deportation Now’ signs, but she didn’t think she was voting for this. Que ingenua!
This is quite possibly the truest words that have ever come out of that creature.
He said a lot of conflicting things, people selected what they wanted to believe, and he’s selecting what he wants to stand behind 😅
You can always rely on him being self-serving, xenophobic, and otherwise fickle.
Every day.
The most face-eaten of lepoard-eaten faces.
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Damn, that’s an actual quote.
About tariffs, but the point applies here as well…From the context, it seems he meant all the shit he’s been doing…Oh yeah.
Beautiful, isn’t it?
Mr. President, I think what we’re driving at is that you’ve taken congressional authority on trade and appropriations. You fired the heads of independent agencies. You’re challenging the courts right now, as you know. You’re using the levers of government to weaken private institutions like law firms and universities. Isn’t this seizing power away from institutions and concentrating them inside the presidency?
No, I think that what I’m doing is exactly what I’ve campaigned on.
Some questions later:
Just remember, every single question you’re asking, I campaigned on it. I campaigned on all the things you’re talking about, all the things you’re asking about, and openly campaigned.
https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/
And he really did. He openly campaigned on it all, all the hate, vitriol and fascist points. He didn’t hide any of it. Sure he played dumb about project 2025, but he spread all the talking points.
Damn. That’s so much worse! Thank you for the context and quotes…
Makes me wonder what the fuck they think they voted for
Making merica great, bald eagles, kid rock, 25¢ eggs, free diesel for their monster trucks, short bottom shorts on blondes, beer holders in car and no seatbelt laws taking their freedum.
That sorta thing.
lol but I’ve never heard of Latinas being into those things, well maybe cheap eggs…
Oh, they love their “performance vehicles” too
I personally have no problem with bald eagles, 25¢ eggs, and short bottom shorts on blondes.
Maybe Kamala should have used that as her platform.
I’ll take one Chris Hemsworth in short-shorts, please!
Might as well stock up, get a couple while you’re there, friend.
You know what? Your right, I’ll take a Pine and an Evans too…
Fuck Chris Pratt tho, ain’t nobody got time for that fucking piece of shit
This ain’t no Chris shop! Best I can do is a Liam
Im out of the loop, what’s the deal with Pratt?
he’s an ableist asshole (after making remarks about how his new wife gave him a ‘healthy and normal’ baby, when his first child has special needs). one of his co-stars was recently killed in a brutal, targeted, hate crime and the best he could come up with was a shitty instagram story (meaning it disappears after 12hrs) "Damn. RIP Jonathan. Always such a kind dude. He played Ken Hotate in Parks and was also in Mag 7. Sad to see. Prayers up. Hug your loved ones.” and lastly he belongs to a shitty hollywood church cult… sooooo take your pick for reasons why he is shitty and will no longer be welcome at the cool kids table
With you there. Ryan Gosling will do nicely as well.
I mean thats only fair. Eye candy for all!
Frankly I’ve been trying to decide whether to choose Original Thor Chris or Fat Thor Chris. Both are delectable and Worthy
Yeah, could he have screamed “I hate latino immigrants and I want to get rid of them as inhumanely as possible” any louder?
“It’s fake news”, “it’s taken out of context”, “that’s not what he meant”, you get the gist.
LOL! YES! I remember hearing, “Maybe that’s what he said, but that’s not what he meant.”
“He’s just joking!”
Hurting other people. They thought they’d be the chosen ones.
They aren’t capable of thinking at all.
This is the correct answer
the average voter on a macro scale is really stupid imo
Machismo
Racism
Given she’s Latina, banning abortion would be a safe bet.
This is what you voted for xd, smartasa
I’m of Irish and Scottish decent. I’m white. As fuck. Not AF. As fuck. I don’t tan, I fucking burn, peel, and burn again. All the while, I suffer.
I’m from the south. Grew up in Texas, only been out of it for less than a year and still in the fucking south - so not much better.
Even I could tell… well, anyone, not to vote for Trump. “Oh, Trump likes _______” No, Trump likes Trump. End statement. End logic. End all.
Trump likes Trump.
If anyone thinks that Trump will put them, their group, or their issue, ahead of himself then they have refused to pay attention. Not that they haven’t had the chance, they have willfully refused.
I was not able to vote. Moving from Texas to Arkansas, there was in issue with my registration, which in hind-sight sounds like “I’m lazy, have some voter suppression” because I didn’t have a capital T branded on my forehead. I should have fought harder, but I was more worried about a roof over my head and food on the table. Fuck me for trying to survive and provide for my wife.
End statement: Not everyone who was unable to vote was lazy: Fuck all of you who say otherwise. Some of us could NOT vote, for whatever reason.
If it’s any consolation, most of us not from the US know your system doesn’t work for the people and deliberately makes it difficult for people like yourself to contribute to your country’s democracy.
In my country, if you deliberately choose not to vote, you get fined.
I don’t think the problem quite amounts to Trump likes Trump. For me, the issue is obvious: this is reactionary policy that he and the Republicans have been quite clear about enacting. I am trying to be a bit more sympathetic because I get that people have been tricked, but I think Trump was very clear about doing this well in advance of the election.
“No, we meant the other brown people!”
“No, no we meant just all the brown people after us.”
Ladder pulling is a shockingly common trait among immigrants.
Yep, my now canadian colleague changed after he got his citizenship. He then voted for the party that was going to block immigration. Like WTAF dude, it is how you just got here.
Ladder pulling is a shockingly common trait among
immigrantshumans in general.FTFY
Oh yea what did you vote for? Trump deporting immigrants other than your community?
“'But we are hardworking people, unlike those other immigrants people don’t like” 🤡
“But we belong to the special exclusive club of supporters who are protected from those actions, actions that mean we will be better off even if the majority of everyone else will be worse off!” To them, they can have their lack-of-empathy cake and eat it, too.
They struggle to understand xenophobia.
Thats surprisingly common.
A while ago I was in a tram in Vienna. The tram has one very big station, where most people get off, and then just one more stop afterwards. We were just at that big station and everyone except me and an older woman stayed on the tram. As doors were closing, a younger woman outside the train shouted something in a language I didn’t understand.
The older woman turned to me and said in very broken German “These foreigners… They always misbehave, make noise.”
I was so close to asking her what about tge concept of foreigners she didn’t understand.
I don’t understand foreigners subscribing to anti-foreigner idology.
Yes it is. You just thought you were the “good Jew”
Pick up a goddamn history book. There are no safe zones.
“Latinas for Trump”
aka
The idiot girls club of America
Ok, but why idiot girls? Why not idiot boys? Or idiot transgenders? They can all be idiots too, I think it’s wrong to discriminate against the boys and transgenders who can be equally idiotic.
This is a perfect example of ignorance leading to being offended.
Latina specifically means those of the feminine persuasion. Latino would be the all encompassing term or the term for those of the masculine persuasion.
Ok, I am neither ignorant nor offended. I was being sarcastic.
Anyway, maybe my fault for not including the /s at the end of my post, but I really thought the tone was good enough, sorry internet strangers
Also, I upvoted the comment I was making fun of, thought it was clear, but still, soz guys
Rereading your comment in a heavily sarcastic tone, I can see what you were going for, but I am also unsurprised at it being misinterpreted. Sarcastic jokes are hard when there are people who say that kind of thing unironically
Fair
That certainly wasn’t sarcastic.
Maybe you could look up what the word Latina means.
Omg, didn’t realise this was such a sensitive topic, read my other comments, I was being sarcastic… Faaaaaaq.
As someone mentioned, it’s because Latinas rather than Latinos. Some people have used Latinx or something similar to denote both, but I saw some backlash on that and am not sure if it’s preferee. Anyway, historically Latinos denotes either male or just general pop, kinda like mankind does in English.
Latinas on the other hand is specifically feminine, so it’s like “mothers against drunk driving” type organizations, specifically named to signify that it’s women. so they weren’t being sexist, just responding to the specificity in like manner.
I was being sarcastic, sorry, I thought it was obvious by the tone. My fault.
Also, I want to for real (not sarcastic) thank this entire thread for the most “beat him with the book” ass whipping I have received since joining Lemmy. stuff I genuinely didn’t know about the use of Latinx 's.
Anyway, can we leave my internet points in tact please, I may need them one day for a thing. Was really just trying to be funny with some sarcasm sprinkled in.
Speaking as a Mexican in Mexico, the Latinx backlash was from Latino-Americans. We use it quite a bit here, especially in the LGBT community by people being trans inclusive.
The reason is that we don’t have the same historical hangups, and we also have a long history of trying to use gender neutral words and failing every time.
At one point in the 90s we were using Latin@ because of the web. Now the current gender neutral forms favored end in “e” as in Latine, but this has also been met with plenty of mockery and backlash.
So, please, use Latinx. It’s fine, you can even pronounce it Latino or Latin-x if you want.
A published author I know used x to form gender neutral words in his recently published book and I found it amusing:
lol shameful
Thank you for being the only one who got the sarcasm…
What a goof. This is exactly who you voted for. You knew what he was going to do. He was very vocal and very public about it.
You still supported and voted for him.
I don’t know how stupid you have to be to posthumously get mad that you got exactly what you supposedly wanted when you voted for it, just because it was what was clearly described, and not the rose colored picture you had in your mind of what things meant.
Get bent.
he got so annoyed, that he had to remind his dimwitted voters, thats whats tehy voted on,.
Bullshit. This is exactly what you wanted…for everyone else.
Which in that case… You deserve it.
“While I stand by my support for him, I will call out harmful actions when necessary,” she said. “And finally, this isn’t about regrets; I have none.”
Oh well then, I hope you burn in Hell. Or in Florida. Whichever.
I hope you burn in Hell. Or in Florida. Whichever.
Texas, too. (With Louisiana and Alabama on the fringe)
Why you would leave Mississippi out of that list, I have no idea. I mean, the state where the Emmett Till memorial gets repeatedly shot up?
It’s such a nice place except for like 3/4 of the people…
It’s always impressive when the leopard is mid-face-eat, they acknowledge the face eating is happening, and they make sure to say they don’t have regrets.
As a Jewish man I don’t regret voting for Hitler I just think this whole Holocaust movement can be harmful.
There’s a difference?
