In May, the House Energy and Commerce Committee voted 48-1 in favor of the Sunshine Protection Act. The U.S. Senate voted unanimously in March 2022 to make daylight saving time permanent but the House never took up the measure in the face of opposition. The proposal the House will consider next week would allow states to opt out.
Trump just fired the federal election commission and fucks kids. Epstien files.
I just saw that. What. The. Fuck.
Exactly.
Of course there might be somethibg horrible in this bill that they want to sneak through.
As someone who works too damn early, please let’s be sensible and do permanent standard time.
I’m sorry Canada, you’re usually right, but you’re wrong about this
We are further north. I went daylight time because it leaves more daylight after work.
Even here in the Midwest I feel the same. I’d rather have the sunlight during my time, not while I’m at work.
To be fair, Saskatchewan of all places actually did it right. BC surprised me. Alberta makes perfect sense with Marlena at the helm.
Who even fucking cares anymore? How about demanding proof of life from the Senate Majority Leader? Stop wasting your breath on this bullshit.
JUST! DO! THINGS! AT A! DIFFERENT! TIME! DAMMIT!!!
If you feel like time should always be an hour ahead, just do things an hour early! There’s no need to change our entire reckoning of time
I’m too lazy to find my years old comment on this but they didn’t vote on it because they pocketed it to use as a rider base or ticket.
There is literally no opposition, they wanted to use it to pass other bills or measures at the same time because it has complete bipartisan support.
Congress sucks ass.
This is just a half measure. They need to fix the tilt of the Earth for a real solution to this problem.
Noon should be noon, not 1.
Do you complain for 3/4 of the year?
Yes, seriously makes my insomnia worse.
Yes. Where I live is on the weird edge of a timezone, so even for the tiny part of the year where time makes more sense solar noon is at around 12:33. When daylight savings happens, that goes to 13:33. Noon happens closer to 15:00 than to “noon” and it’s stupid
Ending the clock change is a great idea. The question becomes, do we want to:
Go the permanent daylight saving route. Be an hour off from the rest of the world adding to the stack of weird and arguably stupid things the USA does different so we can have a bit of light after work instead of questioning why we’re working our lives away. Also, drastically increase the number of morning injuries and fatalities, especially among children, as schools will be starting in the dark.
OR
Be sane.
It appears Congress has spoken.
Because of existing time zones aren’t we already different from the rest of the world? You make other good points but the rest of the world comparison seems odd. If anything just picking one is more consistent and safer regardless. I mean if you wanna talk about weird, the entire mainland china is one time zone, China Standard Time.
Or the fact that countries change to DST at different times if at all.
Why we don’t move schools to start later in winter so they start in sunlight
You’d also have to change working hours for parents so they can get their kids ready for school.
Cool let’s do it
But then you need to change the working hours for their co-workers who depend on them. Then some of the business partners of the companies that have a large number of employees that changed their working hours.
Eventually we get right back to where we started. The reason we change the clocks is because we decided that as a society, parts of the world that have a significant angle to the sun (which have a limited amount of daylight in the winter, and an excess amount of daylight in the summer) so we came up with a system to deal with that fact in a fairly organized way. There won’t be a good solution to this, but simply changing the clocks twice a year is probably the least worst of all options.
It makes more sense in a world without artificial lights everywhere, now it’s just holdover and tradition.
That kids darkness thing is so stupid. Our kids start school in the dark they are not dying on the streets.
“If it isn’t happening right in front of my face at absurd rates, it must not be happening at all.” Meanwhile, https://worldmetrics.org/daylight-savings-time-accident-statistics/
I love living in one of the 2 states that DON’T change time . I absolutely hated it and always thought it was stupid all the back and forth it’s only an hour, just leave it at one time (honestly I don’t care which). I used to live in the Midwest and the time change was the bane of my existence
Why not just move school and work start times an hour or two later in the winter in Colorado then? Why hold the entire country hostage because of niche locations that already have the ability to make local decisions like this?
>more people will be driving to work or to the ski resorts in the dark
Trust me, if you aren’t on I-70 before sunrise on the weekend, don’t bother. You’re not getting to the resort till noon
TIL in 1974 the U.S. tried permanent DST during an energy crisis … it saved little energy, fuel use slightly increased, and public support collapsed after one dark winter, so the law was repealed within 10 months.
God forbid we’d learn from past mistakes.
What do you mean dark winter? We already spend 3/4 of the year in DST. It sucks when it goes to standard time as it gets dark real early.
I am very surprised by the push back to this I’m reading in the comments. Keeping time stable will on average, be a 30 minute difference relative to the sun, and folks are fearing they will spend their entire days mired in darkness? I don’t get it.
The US isn’t know for a well educates populace.
When fast food chains tried releasing a 1/3rd pound burger they failed horribly because people thought 1/3 was less than a 1/4 pound burger.
They’ll pick the wrong one, and we’ll have to live with it getting dark at 5 PM for the rest of history.
Conservatives really are doing everything to repeat the Nixon years.
Nixon tried it. Turns out people didn’t like it once they had it and it was switched back.
I tried to have the conversation of just doing away with time zones all together with my wife once. She could not understand that the number associated with when it gets daylight and when it gets dark is arbitrary. Instead of getting daylight around 6am it would be getting daylight around 10am (if we adopted UTC for example) or gets dark around midnight (12AM). The weird thing is she lived in Alaska far enough north that during the summer it didn’t even really get dark at night. I also wanted to talk about the alternative calendars like the IFC or the Gormanian but I’m pretty sure I would have broken her brain. She’s pretty sharp but apparently abstract thought about concrete things like dates and time are a bridge too far.
I get you and I’ve had similar thoughts for myself, but just want to make sure, you do realize that we’re the weird ones here right?
Oh absolutely but it would make everything SOOO much simpler in the long run.
Everyone would get used to it.
Good!
