• Carvex@lemmy.world
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    These people have law degrees, and some of them are partially educated. It’s amazing to me someone could type this up and send it to other people without the embarrassment of looking like a fucking moron stopping them.

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      My sister is highly educated, and started her career doing medical research and got in to crime scene investigation. She ultimately left when she discovered the job she wanted working for the FBI was not nearly scientifically rigorous enough and didn’t really hold water scientifically.

      She now sees a psychic, is entirely convinced it’s real, and eats up and parrots every single Republican talking point. Biden too old and dimented, Trump is literally the greatest man alive with decades to live. She even accused our mother of cognitive decline when she didn’t buy the bullshit my sister was spewing. My mother is sharp as a tack and there’s no family history of dementia.

      On top of this, my sister’s idiot husband is was an executive in charge of international sales and literally lost his job because of the orange man. Still, God’s gift to the US in their eyes.

      We don’t talk anymore but I’m curious how they feel now, they also suckled on Musk’s taint.

      Their ideology started with money. They only cared about taxes. Now they agree with anything anyone says as long as they start with lowering their, already generously low, tax rate.

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      They know what they’re doing. Their constituents may be stupid enough to believe it, but all those people at the top are completely aware of the grift they’re running.

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        I waffle back and forth with that thought. Every time I think they’re aware, I see another thing that makes me wonder.

        Either way, I’m old enough to remember that saying stupid shit, even once, would kill your campaign. FFS, Howard Dean lost for yelling boisterously, once.

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          That has changed with the systematic dismantling of our education system and the push against critical thinking that started in the Reagan Era. Nowadays people are for the most part, too darn stupid to hold these people accountable.

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          howard dean was already losing when he BYAAAH’d. dan quayle was famous for the idiotic things he’d say, and he became vice president under HW bush - a strategy that bush’s son mimicked to his advantage a decade later.

          gaffes didn’t end political careers, negative media coverage did. and they decide before the story happens how they’re going to spin it, no matter the actual content of the interview or speech.

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        A lot of them aren’t aware. They belong to a certain peer group that believes different things and any fact that contradict this is an attack on their identity.

        There by is a simple experiment about this. Ask a very simple math problem about shampoo and everybody gets the answer right. Ask the same math problem but say it’s about gun control and see basic logic twisted into pretzels.

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      I followed the #2 link he linked about cloud seeding. From the article:

      Veteran Houston meteorologist Travis Herzog weighed in this week, calling the theory scientifically unfounded.

      “Cloud seeding cannot create a storm of this magnitude or size. In fact, cloud seeding cannot even create a single cloud,” Herzog said. “All it can do is take an existing cloud and enhance the rainfall by up to 20% — and even that is on the high end.”

      He compared the theory to blowing out a candle and assuming one could extinguish a wildfire. “It is a matter of scale,” he said.

      It’s pretty ballsy to provide a link with someone calling out your bullshit while acting as if that link proves your point.

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          My mother once handed me the manual to a dishwasher to prove that I was loading mine “wrong.” Turns out I was doing it the way the manual recommended. She had never actually opened said manual.

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      Specialization can breed a narrow limit of scope when it come to general knowledge. Sometimes the best lawyers and surgeons are complete idiots when it comes to falling for things like, say, internet scams. I am not sure if that’s what’s happening here, but I have known enough assistants of big skilled people that they always say “This guy is a brilliant surgeon, but doesn’t know how to cook or even how to shop for his own groceries.”

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    Unaddressed man-made climate change leading to unprecedented volatility and extremes in weather as predicted since the 70s? “Bullshit.”

    A secret cabal of leftists attacking red states (and blue states for… reasons) through advanced undetectable technology (or magic?) that alters the weather creating these extreme events? “Seems reasonable to me.”

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      Also, every commercial passenger flight is a felon. They are an apparatus released into the atmosphere, and affect weather/climate/intensity of sunlight by causing global dimming. Furthermore, they take the atmosphere in through their engines, and run it through a bunch of air conditioners to cool and filter the air for the cabin, expressly for the purpose of affecting the temperature and climate inside the aircraft, and then exhaust it out of the aircraft back into the atmosphere. Checkmate.

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        I am all for classifying pollution this way the law, as written, excludes it with this part:

        “…for the express purpose of affecting…”

        The express purpose of releasing pollution from jets is to provide thrust for transportation. The pollution is a byproduct and not part of the express purpose. An umbrella’s function of blocking the sun is an express purpose of the device.

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          Very true, your example is airtight. Where mine gets a bit more in the weeds, is the air conditioners and filters in the cabin have an express purpose of manipulating the temperature and climate, that is their only purpose. Otherwise the air coming into the cabin would be so hot from being compressed in the engines everyone would die and all the machines onboard would overheat.

          It was a bit more technical, complicated, (air inside a plane in the atmosphere is still air from the atmosphere being manipulated!) and on the edge though, and not as easily conveyed as umbrellas.

          Kudos for yours though, it was to the point.

          So perhaps, they should just ban the air conditioners on jets to get it technically correct?

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            the air conditioners and filters in the cabin have an express purpose of manipulating the temperature and climate, that is their only purpose.

            I think you’ve accidentally uncovered a better example. Regular home A/Cs work by releasing hot air into the atmosphere:

            To make the inside cool, they have to disperse hot air (which is definitely a chemical or substance) into the atmosphere. That is their express purpose.

            So by this law, A/C in Florida is banned.

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                  … (inside a building, which is still in the borders).

                  …but may be hard to argue it meets the other clause of “in the atmosphere”. Yes, there is air in the building, but unless the building isn’t well sealed (which it would be generally well sealed to keep the cold in) then the cold isn’t expressly being released into the atmosphere.

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                That’s like saying the express purpose of hunting isn’t to kill something, it’s to acquire meat. The express purpose is to move heat from inside to outside. You can’t “produce” cool air, you can only move heat.

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                  That’s like saying the express purpose of hunting isn’t to kill something, it’s to acquire meat.

                  If you’re hunting to eat, the express purpose of hunting is to acquire meat. If you’re hunting for sport, then you may not care about the meat the express purpose would be the desire to the kill or the resulting trophy.

                  You can’t “produce” cool air, you can only move heat.

                  You’re focusing on the mechanism. The definition of “express purpose” is focusing on the result.

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      Just hold on very tight so you don’t release your sunblocking apparatus into the atmosphere.

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        If its on a pole stuck the ground exposed to the air, its already in the atmosphere and as it is not contained in some other bag or box, it is “released”. Pay your $100k fine citizen.

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    Seems letting large amounts of greenhouse gases into the air is geoengineering, so maybe we could form an Environmental Protection Agency to crack down on places doing this large scale.

    Oh, we’re back on the “free market” bandwagon now?

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    The spectacular level of cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously not believe in man-made climate change but also believe in evil scientists changing the weather.

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    Geoengineering definitely did play a role in any flooding of urban areas in Florida. It’s why there’s urban areas in what’s supposed to be a swamp.

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      Geoengineering

      I’d point out we’ve been geoengineering the atmosphere relentlessly for over 200 years, first with coal and then oil combustion. We’re living in an age of deliberate geoengineering, our children will have worse quality of life than any of us because of our short sighted and selfish ways.

      It’s not the weather control bullshit these MORONS suspect, they’re literally leading the charge to do it to themselves and can’t be convinced that less pollution would be preferable.

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        The first time I heard about the “democratic weather machine” conspiracy I thought it funny. But looking at it again as it spreads I do believe it is a tactic to keep voters while climate change escalates.

        If we get new candidates that run on climate promises we now got a seed set to diffame and more importantly mock them. They can play the victim and point fingers. A long standing and well proven tactic.

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          I do believe it is a tactic to keep voters while climate change escalates.

          yup. pay no attention to our petrol-fueled base and the crumbling biosphere, nah, it’s them libs that are, uh, CONTROLLING THE WEATHER, yeah, yeah…

          could you imagine the smoking ruin that would be mar-a-lago if libs could control storms? jfc

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      Dangerous angle. That’d mean giving back Tampa and Miami to the swamps, two leftist strongholds.

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          As someone with deep attachment to the state, I welcome the reversal of destruction. I just hope people don’t catch on to this can of worms before big damage to infrastructure is done. Burn it all down!

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    I guess releasing tons and tons of CO2 into the atmosphere does count as geoengineering and weather modification

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      God wouldn’t have given us all these coal deposits and oil fields if he didn’t want us to strip mine and frack our way through life leaving our planet a used up husk!

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      No no no, climate change is a ridiculous lie that no one with half a brain believes. What’s happening is that they are using weather juice to make things bad, sometimes, in some places, they’ve just been doing it so randomly that it almost looks like natural weather. Almost as if… no, they are definitely controlling the weather. Right?

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    injection, release or dispersion of a chemical… for the express purpose of affecting the temperature, weather, climate or intensity of sunlight

    Time to shut down anything with a chimney or diesel engine, we just need to argue those things’ express purpose is to affect the weather and anything done besides that is a happy side effect

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    I mean, he’s kind of right. Humanity is geo-engineering catastrophic weather events. By driving climate change. Morons.

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    Hmmm, no, couldn’t be the climate change we’ve been warned about for decades, it’s the chemicals the pilots are spraying secretly! If people are really dumb enough to eat this up, we’re fucked.

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      If people are really dumb enough to eat this up, we’re fucked.

      I’ve got some really bad news for you.

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    Ah, yes, the super well funded climate researchers are murdering people with climate controlling Doppler radars in order to make the poor innocent petroleum industry look bad. All so they can make $120k, if they are extremely lucky. It is definitely not petroleum industry executives making millions spreading disinformation so that they can continue to loot the rest of us.

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    Space aliens and hidden government conspiracies sounds more interesting than just accepting that conservatives fucked things up and don’t want to take accountability.