I read all the comments and I still don’t understand what makes this comic interesting
I had hoped to escape seeing low-effort Pizzacake comics on the front page when I left reddit for good.
I don’t even understand what the joke is or if there even is one
This made me chuckle out loud thanks for sharing! Do you mind if I share it in !Witchesvspatriarchy@lemmy.ca
That is a very strange place.
Don’t make me cast a spell on you…
Why is it that everytime I see this artist nowadays it’s just a preachy kill-a-strawman comic? I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened? Did they change, did I? Am I mistaking a shite copycat for an artist I remember fondly? Is this what senility feels like? How was your day?
I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hidden-motives/201203/unreliable-memory
Don’t gaslight people lol
A strawman? What the fuck are you talking about?
I just built a little model of a person! Let’s call him lagoon8622.
lagoon8622: “I’m a big stupid idiot who poops his pants and loves to kiss his sister”
Whoa! You heard it here, folks. Sure it’s just a model of him, but I am insinuating that this could be a real conversation that really happened. Everyone please base your opinion of lagoon8622 off of this hastily constructed model I created.
you see, when somebody says something mean to you online, spending your time on 4-panel is the best way to prove how not mad you are, consult some Dobson webcomics if you need examples.
Yup. This checks all of the “that is definitely how people talk”-boxes. It’s like an invented dialogue meets a fantasy answer.
Can we not have AIop being upvoted to the top? Thanks.
Turns out, lemmy has a massive misogyny problem going on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If you don’t think my joke is funny you’re a racist
Yep. Came to the comments and immediately saw they were out in force. I mod !WomensStuff@lazysoci.al and although the majority of men who’ve turned up have been great, we’ve had some misogynists mansplaining and being petty. Fortunately we’re women only
Honestly if someone is referring to themselves as “high value” anything then it’s pretty clearly a low value thought. Doesn’t really matter who they are.
If they have anything of high value, it may be their component parts. Lightly used kidneys are at a premium right now.
I feel like this is one of those conversations you make up in your head and it’s kinda cringe to write it down.
Just look at this thread. People are out in force acting superior to her and putting her down for having an only fans. Theyre providing unsolicited feedback, acting “high valued” without even realize theyre doing it. This comic is showing how she sees the unsolicited feedback from these people on the internet, and calls it out as it is, inconsequential to her life. And what do those very same people do? Get even more upset.
Frankly, i knew nothing about this lady before this thread happened. It’s been a wild ride for me to follow
From my experience men often underestimate how often women face weirdos. While the whole conversation might happen only in authors head the initial comment of the guy is quite a regular thing. It is a form of bullying. The rest of the conversation might happen in the authors head only, but it’s sad that women have to face such behavior in the first place IMO. If you don’t think such conversation happens at all, you might get enlightened by the everyday sexism project, the related (audio)book, or just ask a friendly woman around you if they ever faced it. https://everydaysexism.com/
Big shower-arguement energy for sure.
Actually it is a regular thing among the asshole “manosphere” crowd (i.e. the pathetic fucking losersphere).
I can see this as a twitter exchange for sure but irl it seems very shower thoughtesque. It could be that a very online person framed it as an irl thing and that what’s jarring.
Then again I am not a woman and cannot speak to that experience.
You’ve had this conversation?
I brought up an example of a specific sexist and controlling behavior I observed (guys holding their wives or girlfriends by the neck while walking across the street, like they were steering a chicken) in a meetup group and all the men around me said they had never seen it. The two women said they both had experienced it.
Repeat this a thousand and one times with other behavior I and presumably you, as men, will never have to experience but are just as real.
No but I’ve seen it. I’m not a manosphere wacko
Lemmy is 97% Linux users
Aka, high value men
These programming socks have no gender
No, but I thought about having it, so basically the same thing, eh?
When you consider the source….
Can we please not bring pizza cake comics over from reddit? They’re so mid they aren’t even funny. Strawman comics that show off the author’s frustrations.
Or we bring all content and yiu can just skip the crap you don’t like. You know, like most of us do with other things.
I’m with you on this one.
I agree that skipping content is the way to go, Lemmy is federated and all that, but I don’t think it works with a post like this.
This post somehow got 1.2k likes but there’s no real discussion in the comments (mainly about the author like we are discussing right now) and it doesn’t contribute anything of value to the site. It’s a post that most people probably scroll past without giving it any thought, like, and immediately forget - the worst type of social media content for which I don’t see a reason to exist here.
I like Lemmy because it has a kind of “people using a website” feel instead of a “generic content slop feed” vibe like reddit, tiktok, ect. I think Lemmy, as a community, should encourage high quality OC content on the platform instead of accepting generic and forgettable posts like this and just saying “ignore it”.
It makes the normies feel like their virtues are being validated, let them have it.
Thank you
Are these Questionable Content characters?
No. Different comics, different artists, different themes. - But some similarity in visual style.
It does look a little similar, but I don’t think it’s related.
Crazy how many folks can’t scroll past something they aren’t interested in. And not thoughtful critiques. Just whining really. Their delicate eyes witnessed it, thus they were compelled to come make a comment.
I don’t think I’d ever find it appropriate to whine in the comments of a user’s post, over a post breaking no rules. I have, and would… just scroll by.
I don’t see “No Pizza Cake” in the rules… why would someone think it would just never show up?
I think it’s basically internet law at this point, if Pizzacake is posted, cranky men must make it known that they find her (and her comics) cRinGe and mEdiOcRe and also she’s a mAnHaTer (dontchaknow).
And yet they subscribe to her OF
No, they don’t.
Methinks he doth protest too much.
i mean, the best punishment for bad art is lack of engagement.
I don’t think pizzacake is a troll (as in makes bad comics so it gets negative engagement), but here we are.
People complaining about her in the comments actually helps her.
if you don’t like it, just move along, don’t give hold her in your head like that zen story about crossing the river with a girl.
I’ll be honest, I kinda wanted lemmy to not have the same mentality as the audience of r/comics who just straight up hate all men. But it looks like these comments are kind of a warzone. I wonder if the mods from that sub have any power here? They defend her from even polite and constructive criticism.
And not thoughtful critiques. Just whining really
So just scroll past it if you don’t like it?
Feeling called out?
Are you? I haven’t whined on this post, so that’s a weird accusation to make. Methinks you’re projecting, sorry your delicate eyes witnessed an opinion you don’t like.
If you aren’t one of the whiners, why you all in a snit and replying, thinking I’m even talking to, OR about you?
And for real?!.. “I know you are but what am I?”… 🤡 I don’t think I’ve had anyone try that argument on me in decades 🤣🤣🤣
I think, anyone who pops in to “PeeWee Herman” the convo and includes “methinks” within their statement, maaay be pictured above.
This comic is neither funny nor thoughtful. I’d say it’s getting the critique it deserves.
I found d it funny. It’s almost like funny is a subjective thing.
Wow, some folks need to remember that online life isn’t real life…
Please, go touch some grass before you scare some normie by talking about your favorite/most-hated web comic.
pizzacakecomics has actually accurately portrayed the way men are treated before:
First panel of that comic here
Ah. And I thought the artist had actually made a good point.
I see you, dutifully trying to cover all the slight and misinformation in here with proper attributions and context.
It must be exhausting.
Thanks for effort, and don’t forget to breathe and keep hydrated. Thanks for trying to hold community together.
The context is that pizzacake knows how men get treated and then tries to say that it’s all hypothetical.
You think the treatment of men by women is bad? Wait till your whole family dies, and then other men tell you to suck it up.
Or tell you to “keep the peace.”
Is this genuine and unaltered? I’d have assumed it was an edit.
Yep, I think the comic was called talk. Here’s another unedited pizzacake slide that shows how women act towards men who’ve done nothing wrong. This one is extra credit because, to her audience, the guy in this is the villain:
Full context to that panel:
Since we’re adding context, I’ll also point out that her community largely views the last guy as worse than any of the first guys.
How does she look more reasonable when taken out of context?
I wonder if you’ve really never seen this panel in its original context, or if you’re just a troll. My money is on the latter.
As someone who used to be a guy… this hits
It’s even better in it full context
Why does her actually interesting work never get posted here?
Truthfully she doesn’t have a lot of interesting comics, most of it is very mediocre.
Burn the witch! To the town square
Who is pizzacake and why do so many commenters dislike them?
Have a good read, it’s interesting if you like manufactured drama for the sake of publicity.
She’s very reddit
From the comments, it seems the artist herself isn’t well liked.
From knowing nothing about the artist, but having seen a huge bulk of these comics: Maybe they’re incels. 🤷🏻♂️ These do tend to be about toxic masculinity and just bad male behavior in general. It’s like seeing a Republican hating someone because that someone they hate calls out Republican bullshit. Considering the vagueness of the hate expressed in the thread, I am leaning toward this being the actual case.
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Or maybe because she threatened illegitimate DMCA take downs of parodies on r/bonehurtingjuice resulting in mass censorship of any criticism of the fact that one of her comics was insensitive to victims of male sexual assault.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/comments/1ggn4a6/pizzacake_posts_are_now_banned/
Toxic PCC fans strong on Lemmy already? This community is a lost cause
Yeah… Based on all the relevant info and links there, I definitely don’t think the hate is actually based on “illegitimate DMCA” takedown requests.
Yeah, no. A male SA survivor expressed sincere perspective, claiming the original comic insensitive. It was the top comment before it was removed with many other responses. Just read the posts linked in the comment below the one I shared. It’s not incel garbage (mostly), she’s an intolerable Karen. She’s got the mods censoring that sub, it’s one of the reasons I left reddit. (I’ve been banned multiple times for expressing these facts.) They ban people for being critical. I think hating her for being unfunny or having an only fans is dumb. On the other hand, hating on her for being an unapologetic asshole is fine. She’s earned it.
Edit: just read the convo
https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/comments/1ggn4a6/comment/lurmced/
literally reads the thing they linked and still doesn’t agree with them
“Bro just read it until you agree with me.”
Just read it again, but harder. Then you’ll agree!
Don’t they lock your ability to make new accounts when you get banned?
They reversed my ban from the comics sub after appealing.
It’s still extremely problematic that this being painted as incels vs pizza. She has had bad takes on free health care, male survivors, and equating all criticism to misogynistic haters. She doubles down and never argues in good faith.
I really like BHJ. It’s fun and chill. She just didn’t like that people were being critical of her takes. The mods were actively removing hateful content and responses. They expressed willingness to help remove any offending content.
Now, you can’t even mention her name on the sub without threat of ban. It’s ridiculous that she’d try DMCA against something so clearly fair use. Weaponizing it like that isn’t even legal. The mods couldn’t be bothered to fight it though.
I politically agree with her mostly and find some of her comics sincerely funny, but she’s still being a dick.
“It’s about journalism, dammit!”
I have no idea what their deal is but one comic sure did cause a lot of butthurt.
Being a misogynist overbearing male asshole makes one unfuckable. They are the probably bitter about having that obvious truth pointed out to their dumb asses.
For real. Their ideaology is so twisted. They think that in order to attract women, they should be a what a man’s idea of an attractive man is. And instead, being what a woman would find attractive is somehow… gay? Like, I just don’t get it, like there’s a very fundamental misunderstanding of what it is they are trying to do. Very square peg in a round hole situation.
Probably misogyny.
The art is incredibly bland, the points they make are very surface level, and the artist is an awful person.
So many people think they’re owning the libs or whatever by posting them.
Some people just seem to find low hanging fruit to their tastes.
No idea why, though if I had to guess, it’s probably because it takes no effort to understand any of it.
Like how children play with blocks. They’re easy.
That’s a very good way of putting it.
#BINGO!
I’d say four of these are accurate.
I’m happy to be honest, I agree with some of these (obv not the bitch slut or nazi ones). You need another square pointing out how the r/comics mods defend her to a kind of insane level, and definitely give her preferential treatment over other comic artists.
as you can see I drew myself as the Chad and you as the soyjack, so I win
Legitimate criticism of someone isn’t incel behaviour bruh
you’re right.
consistent criticism that hits each of those nine points on every single PCC post doesn’t denote incel behavior.
it’s still pretty pathetic though, that none of these incels have the self control to ignore a post and go into a blind rage when they see a comic. Only to feel the uncontrollable urge to berate an artist that clearly isn’t on this platform. like, who are they trying to convince? sad.
the bingo card is mostly entertainment for myself just so I can keep laughing at them while these comics keep getting posted.
I’ll probably make more every time I see PCC get posted.
She doesn’t care about you no matter how much you white knight her or wank over her OF. You sound just as toxic and simpleminded as I imagine a PCC fan to be
You forgot her threatening to sue a subreddit for critizing and making fun of her comics. There’s a reason why some people don’t want her comics here, and that’s because she’s toxic as fuck
Weird how people get so parasocially attached to others, to the point of whiite knighting
They do this every time someone posts a Pizzacake comic, it’s very strange.
thou doth protest too much!
I couldn’t give a flying shit about the artist.
I just enjoy poking at the incels that clearly feel emboldened to flame the threads every time PCC gets posted.
I mean, it’s literally every single post. It’s getting old and boring. So, I made the bingo card to spice the turd stew up that y’all make.
is it not hot enough for you? don’t worry, I’ll make it extra spicy for you next time 😘.
“Criticism = incel” is a great, quick litmus test for identifying shitty people.
The irony is that the vast majority of people who use “incel” as an insult also tend to dissonantly believe that value judgments of women based on virginity are immoral, lol.
What’s old and boring is PCC’s fan army defending her and her mediocre comics (while simping her OF) at every turn, being just as toxic as her.
Make it spicy how? You gonna sue me like PCC tried to sue a subreddit for critizing her comics?
I’ve honestly never encountered this artist and don’t know any of the drama around them.
Can I say her art style sucks just to win the prize for a bingo though?
the prize is more bingo.
You can go ahead and cross off not funny, lame, and looks like AI while you’re at it.
Yeah, but to be fair, the threads linked here from r/BHJ are Chernobyl-level toxic, and they seem to think they’re the victims.
I think I saw three of them in the comments already!
Don’t know the artist besides what hits the front page here
Isn’t it kind of fucking awesome that douchebags are getting owned?
I can see that people don’t always know how to word their critique. But the point is simple: This is a toxic way to deal with that type of annoyance in your life. It’s a comic, indeed, maybe not meant to be taken seriously, but I would much better see comics about interesting, or fun things. This type of ordinary, sarcastic social commentary you present as a comic does not help your cause nor make the sub a better place. Let’s not perpetrate the “owning” culture so prevalent in social media. Shall you?
What kind of narcissistic fuck refers to himself as “high value man”
Just look at this thread. How many people in this thread are acting superior to her because she has an only fans or because of some other stupid reddit reason. The people are acting “high valued” and superior even if they dont say it. She’s literally using this comment to tell readers that these peoples opinions have no influence on her life, and all its doing is making them more upset. To me, that’s why this comic is funny
A manosphere twat, that’s who.
Leon Musk, for example.
It’s taking the piss out of Andrew Tate and the gullible guys that he’s convinced are superior to women.
I still have both kidneys, so I’d say I’m pretty “high-value”
I still have both kidneys
So, if a date says you’re “potentially a great match”, clarify “organ donor or personality match”, okay?
I’ve seen it in screenshots people have taken of posts from various “man-o-sphere” influencers on places like Twitter. Obviously the problem with them saying it is that none of the guys referring to themselves as such are actually worth knowing, let alone dating.
From all the trending news articles, ten year old boys who got access to tik tok
it’s definitely not just the ten year olds that think this shit.
Mentally, they’re all still ten-year-olds.
Yeah, shittiest shit stains figured out they could blast on Tik Tok. And Tik Tok sees no problem inserting these videos between “why do we use cinnamon on everything” and “why is the sky blue”
iirc, doesn’t china explicitly not allow such shit on their version of tiktok? so it’s just letting america cut their own throat basically?
Just trying to get em while they’re young.
Same vibes when guys call themselves kings, or girls call themselves queens.
Gestures wildly at the men, many in positions of power, around the world, who very obviously would do that.
Let me guess, someone who’s such an egregious self-important A-hole that they are unfuckable? But I’m just guessing.
Narcissus was always trying to dodge annoying suitors, so I don’t think he’d want to call himself high value in that context.
The kind made of straw
