• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    For a recent project, I learned to do some basic house wiring and installed some new light fixtures in our house. I got it inspected and permitted, but it was fun to learn how to DIY that.

    Anyway, since then I’ve been joking with my husband about getting business cards made up:

    NAME

    Unlicensed Electrician. Unbonded. Uninsured.

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    This is meant as a joke but it’s very much a real thing and has been for a long time. Visit an unincorporated area that doesn’t have a permit office and you’ll see some crazy shit. Visit the third world and it’ll blow your mind.

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    Fun fact: Texas doesn’t require general contractors (the ones actually building structures) to have any kind of license or training. Vibe construction is pretty much how it’s done - especially outside of cities where building permits aren’t required and plans aren’t reviewed.

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      Hey I mean on first glance it just looks fine.

      Then you notice the cars can’t leave.

      Then the bedroom goes into the garage. Then you can’t enter the dining hall except through the front door.

      Then the bedroom where you walled in your child without any way out…

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        And then there’s the fact that two of the bedrooms have no way to get to the kitchen and living room - you have to go out the garage and in the front door.

        Hey, it’s not all bad for the kid walled in that bedroom - they can just crawl in and out the window, so they’re not trapped in there forever. No idea how they’re going to have any furniture though. Guess it’s gotta all be stuff that can be disassembled to be small enough to go through the window.

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        But its worth it because you get to drive 2 giant cars. Those things are like 30ft long and 10ft wide. You’ll be king of the road. Also who doesn’t want back to back bathrooms.

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      I don’t see the issue. Americans love cars and they love AI. This has both

      Spoiler

      /s

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        Not sure where this particular image is from. Could have been ChatGPT. But I’ve seen some of these from actual AI plan services that weren’t much better.

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            The idea for the joke came from first thinking of 3d printed houses. I then thought “deconstruction,” but that wasn’t right, so then I had the idea that the government is going to replace all the houses for $49.95, and here we are.

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      Number one radiates “It broke and was easier to do stairs, saved budget on railing.” Which I get.

      I just like number three. Good use of space.

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          I want to take this to insanity. Imagine this but a 50 story version. The only way to access all 50 balconies is from the top one. And the bottom one is like, ten floors above the ground. So no accessing it via a step ladder. The whole thing is a monument to madness. To do anything on the bottom balcony, you must first go down fifty floors of ladders. Then you go have a pint or whatever on the bottom balcony. Then when you’re done, you have to climb UP 50 stories worth of ladders!

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          I’m with it. Like, you can choose not to leave me the fuck alone when I need some space, but you’re going to have to put a little intention into that shit.

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        I like Escher. I did a project on him in Art class. We had one each year. I did Du Champ and Dali as well. I have become a fan of Basquiat recently because of my life partner.

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          Rings some bells, but it was Matisse and Manet for me. Didn’t really know Basquiat’s work until I saw the Geoffrey Wright biopic in the 90s.

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        I mean, I’m not aware if Mario has ever explicitly stated his gender identity is male, but that is assumedly the case. So therefore, he should be able to male just about anything he wants to do.

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          This is Nintendo we’re talking about. They passed some divine wind while flying into our fackin’ ships. If Mario is anything but straight or butch, I’ll be amazed.

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    The difference is that LLMs generate something that is designed to blend in. It’s supposed to convince someone that it was made by a human.

    So, a “vibe constructed” house would probably look like a real house to someone who didn’t know much about houses. But, the pipe from the sink might just go into a space between the walls. The electrical system would be a random mess of lines that would short out as soon as it was connected to the grid. The doors might look right at first, but when you tried to open one you’d see that the hinges were installed in a way that opening it was impossible.

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      The scary thing to me is that it may never have to be perfect. They just have to get the error rate below the human error rate. All work has errors.

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      One good way to realize how unreliable LLM is was to ask something that you are expert of.

      Manny people say that they aren’t experts in anything so that won’t work well for them, but here is one way.

      Reddit made a deal with Google and OpenAI to send their data to them. I don’t know if the deal with OpenAI is still valid as ChatGPT responses were a bit outdated, but Gemini definitively is getting the latest data.

      If you have a Reddit account ask it about yourself, or someone you know well IRL. This works really will of it is an old account.

      First responses might sound right but as you talk you see how it invents things and does so in convincing matter. You don’t correct it, just ask more about it and how it will provide additional information backing it up, including links to Reddit posts (which don’t mention any of it).

      It is quite amazing. LLM is being sold to us as it can automate jobs but it real purpose is to be used on social media to manipulate our options. The bullshitting (oh, sorry, I mean “hallucination”) is a feature.

      https://mashable.com/article/anonymous-researchers-used-ai-on-reddit-debate-forum

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      A while ago, there was a a YouTube video of people laughing at AI generated floorplans.

      Because of course there was a company that tried to make an AI floorplan generator without a shred of thinking. They posted the “good” ones on their website, and even they had obvious weird details like completely misproportionate rooms, having ten bathrooms in a small house, and just straight up missing doors everywhere.

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        Yeah, the fact that they still tried to sell or use so much AI slop that still had major flaws should have been a clear sign that you should never trust marketers because they’ll still try to push obvious garbage as if it is amazing. Same thing with those early coke AI ads that were just a series of unrelated scenes that look ok until you look any closer, but someone greenlighted it despite all that.

        They were phoning it in so hard they pushed what were technical demos at best as final products.

        Though from my perspective, I already had inverse trust based on apparent ad budget even before AI slop showed up because enshitification and apathy about actual quality were rampant long before AI slop was a thing.

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      You might be shocked to hear this but all of those issues happen with no AI involved at all. Every time a bastard is born you should slap an engineer.

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      Seen a home where the dish washer pipe just went into the wall and ended. Mixed copper and aluminum wire. The way doors opened was random.

      The vibe builder might not be much different than what we have.

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      The thing is while LLMs do make mistakes when you have something you can drive conformance with they are actually pretty good (eventually)

      For electrical or plumbing we can simulate those pretty well and a LLM can iterate until it gets a reasonable output since it can check its work against a simulator.

      You could likely live in a house for a bit before you stumbled into something stupid. You could live your entire life and not notice if you never tore out the walls.

      However if you went to change a light switch you might discover it used 3 different kinds of screws and the screw terminals are mislabeled.

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    Wait until you find out about how this is pretty much new home construction anyways.

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      What do you mean? We shouldn’t let men who constantly lie about what 9 inches looks like be the ones measuring insulation in the attic?

      But seriously, buddy just bought a brand new home and I did a once over for him. Pretty sure my cat has made more well done hairballs

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        I was helping my dad put some shelving into the alcoves at their new house and it was horrendous. Those things weren’t even close to square. Fortunately we cut them based off how wide it was at the front and not the back… Just looking around that place there’s a ton of shit that was clearly half-assed. I still don’t understand what they were thinking with this because their old place was rock solid and they didn’t gain anything by moving.

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          I hope for your sake that was it. Some of the walls in those new houses I’ve seen lean from top to bottom. Like, a crown is expected, this is a straight up Michael Jackson Thriller impression. It blows my mind that’s it’s cheaper to slap them together and have to redo whole walls post drywall than do it right the first time.

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            They seemed to be pretty straight top to bottom. Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s issues like that somewhere though. I’m excited (not) to inherit that place one day probably just as it’s falling apart for good.

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          I still don’t understand what they were thinking with this

          They were thinking, “damn, we can’t even afford this half of an ass with how low we bid to get this job.”

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        If you can believe it, it’s more to do with the commercial interests that develop these properties don’t want to pay to do things right so it ends up being cut corners and underpaid labour on anything that doesn’t help you sell it for a quick buck

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        We shouldn’t let men who constantly lie about what 9 inches looks like be the ones measuring insulation in the attic?

        You must watch Cy Porter.

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          I’ve seen some here or there but more like I’ve crawled in new home attics and wondered why I could see the ceiling below.

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    I pitched the idea of an AI clock at a meeting once. Basically you ask what time it is and the AI checks it’s LLM and then confidently tells you the time it thinks.

    Now, do you believe it?

    Take it a step further and have AI set meetings for you or tell you what is on your calendar.

    Do you trust it or do you check your calendar?

    The amount of trust we are putting into a machine that is effectively a probability script is mind boggling.

    People keep telling me “That’s not how you’re supposed to use it.”

    And I keep having to remind them, “But that’s how it works.”

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      Thats not how your supposed to use it

      Are they saying that that use case is a waste of resources or that its not reliable in that context?

      Because in 1: people absolutely do use it like this down to “what should i get for lunch?”
      And in 2: yes, this is the fucking point. If it lies to you about the time amd date then why do you trust anything else it vomits back at you?

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      Yet there are people who believe in agentic AI, and I think I heard that some are actually using it in their daily lives. Not sure I believe them.